Gord v Cipo, round 1

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Well, round 1 is in the books. Score: Gord 1 Cipo 0.

Cipollini did not contest the sprint. (Last Lap Crash?)

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Well, round 1 is in the books. Score: Gord 1 Cipo 0.

Cipollini did not contest the sprint. (Last Lap Crash?)

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UMM....Lieswyn said that the crash was behind him with 3k to
go. He had done his last pull for Gord (who won) and was
drifting back. He guessed he was around 60th, and that the
crash was behind him. He went on to say the 'Super' Mario
was in the front 20.

Other reports have Mario in the front 10 in the last few
miles, and just sat up the last time up the hill. They did
four 2.5 mile laps in Macon to finish the stage.

Gord said he was 20th over the hill the last time, and just
drilled it behind teammates all the way home from there.

Bottomline.... Gord won. Cipo pulled off. That means
he beat him.

RC

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Well, round 1 is in the books. Score: Gord 1 Cipo 0.

Cipollini did not contest the sprint. (Last Lap Crash?)

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UMM....Lieswyn said that the crash was behind him with 3k to
go. He had done his last pull for Gord (who won) and was
drifting back. He guessed he was around 60th, and that the
crash was behind him. He went on to say the 'Super' Mario
was in the front 20.

Other reports have Mario in the front 10 in the last few
miles, and just sat up the last time up the hill. They did
four 2.5 mile laps in Macon to finish the stage.

Gord said he was 20th over the hill the last time, and just
drilled it behind teammates all the way home from there.

Bottomline.... Gord won. Cipo pulled off. That means
he beat him.

RC

Sure, but there are lots of races where Cipo has sat up. What gord should want is to beat Cipo in a straight up sprint like Petacchi has, not to drop Cipo on a hill right before the finish. Congrats to Gord on the win, but it isn't terribly important for his sprinting resume.

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Cipollini did not contest the sprint. (Last Lap
Crash?)

-T

UMM....Lieswyn said that the crash was behind him with
3k to go. He had done his last pull for Gord (who won)
and was drifting back. He guessed he was around 60th,
and that the crash was behind him. He went on to say
the 'Super' Mario was in the front 20. Other reports
have Mario in the front 10 in the last few miles, and
just sat up the last time up the hill. They did four
2.5 mile laps in Macon to finish the stage. Gord said
he was 20th over the hill the last time, and just
drilled it behind teammates all the way home from
there. Bottomline.... Gord won. Cipo pulled off. That
means he beat him. RC

Sure, but there are lots of races where Cipo has sat up.
What gord should want is to beat Cipo in a straight up
sprint like Petacchi has, not to drop Cipo on a hill right
before the finish. Congrats to Gord on the win, but it
isn't terribly important for his sprinting resume.

Neither is this race for Cipos' Dave

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Neither is this race for Cipos' Dave

I think Cipo's resume is big enough already.

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Well, round 1 is in the books. Score: Gord 1 Cipo 0.

Round 2 Score: Gord 1 Cipo 1

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Well, round 1 is in the books. Score: Gord 1 Cipo 0.

Round 2 Score: Gord 1 Cipo 1

from velonews:

"It was a monumental win for Fraser, who, after winning
stage 1, called the result one of the biggest of his
career. But that day's victory wasn't an outright test of
speed against the Italian superstar, as Cipollini had
fallen off the pace the fourth time over that course's
hilly cobble-section and was unable to contest the sprint.
This time around, on a flat finishing circuit, Cipollini
had no excuses - Fraser was simply the fastest, craftiest
man of the day."

Yea, I know you can't compare Gord's record vs Cipo's, but
it sure is nice to see him take him on and beat him heads
up, at least once.

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Well, round 1 is in the books. Score: Gord 1 Cipo 0.

Round 2 Score: Gord 1 Cipo 1

from velonews:

"It was a monumental win for Fraser, who, after winning
stage 1, called the result one of the biggest of his
career. But that day's victory wasn't an outright test of
speed against the Italian superstar, as Cipollini had
fallen off the pace the fourth time over that course's
hilly cobble-section and was unable to contest the sprint.
This time around, on a flat finishing circuit, Cipollini
had no excuses - Fraser was simply the fastest, craftiest
man of the day."

Yea, I know you can't compare Gord's record vs Cipo's, but
it sure is nice to see him take him on and beat him heads
up, at least once.

FWIW, in an uphill sprint like that Cipo would get beat by
at least several of the Euro sprinters.

-WG

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Well, round 1 is in the books. Score: Gord 1 Cipo 0.

Round 2 Score: Gord 1 Cipo 1

from velonews:

"It was a monumental win for Fraser, who, after winning
stage 1, called the result one of the biggest of his
career. But that day's victory wasn't an outright test of
speed against the Italian superstar, as Cipollini had
fallen off the pace the fourth time over that course's
hilly cobble-section and was unable to contest the sprint.
This time around, on a flat finishing circuit, Cipollini
had no excuses - Fraser was simply the fastest, craftiest
man of the day."

Yea, I know you can't compare Gord's record vs Cipo's, but
it sure is nice to see him take him on and beat him heads
up, at least once.

Makes ya wonder why Cipo didn't show for the podium. I don't
think he wanted to stand on 3rd. He's Cipo, after all.

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>Well, round 1 is in the books. Score: Gord 1 Cipo 0.

Round 2 Score: Gord 1 Cipo 1

from velonews:

"It was a monumental win for Fraser, who, after winning
stage 1, called the result one of the biggest of his
career. But that day's victory wasn't an outright test
of speed against the Italian superstar, as Cipollini had
fallen off the pace the fourth time over that course's
hilly cobble-section and was unable to contest the
sprint. This time around, on a flat finishing circuit,
Cipollini had no excuses - Fraser was simply the
fastest, craftiest man of the day."

Yea, I know you can't compare Gord's record vs Cipo's,
but it sure is nice to see him take him on and beat him
heads up, at least once.

Makes ya wonder why Cipo didn't show for the podium. I
don't think he wanted to stand on 3rd. He's Cipo,
after all.

Maybe because he didn't want the attention that would have
been given to him on the podium to take away from Gord's win
and his moment on the podium. Dave

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from velonews:

"It was a monumental win for Fraser, who, after
winning stage 1, called the result one of the biggest
of his career. But that day's victory wasn't an
outright test of speed against the Italian superstar,
as Cipollini had fallen off the pace the fourth time
over that course's hilly cobble-section and was unable
to contest the sprint. This time around, on a flat
finishing circuit, Cipollini had no excuses - Fraser
was simply the fastest, craftiest man of the day."

Yea, I know you can't compare Gord's record vs Cipo's,
but it sure is nice to see him take him on and beat
him heads up, at least once.

Makes ya wonder why Cipo didn't show for the podium. I
don't think he wanted to stand on 3rd. He's Cipo,
after all.

Maybe because he didn't want the attention that would have
been given to him on the podium to take away from Gord's
win and his moment on the podium.

And maybe he's planning on shaving his head and joining a
monastary.

The word here in Atlanta was that he actually thought he was
4th and didn't understand that he needed to head out. Don't
know if it's true or a convenient story but it's possible.

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>Well, round 1 is in the books. Score: Gord 1 Cipo 0.

Round 2 Score: Gord 1 Cipo 1

from velonews:

"It was a monumental win for Fraser, who, after winning
stage 1, called the result one of the biggest of his
career. But that day's victory wasn't an outright test
of speed against the Italian superstar, as Cipollini had
fallen off the pace the fourth time over that course's
hilly cobble-section and was unable to contest the
sprint. This time around, on a flat finishing circuit,
Cipollini had no excuses - Fraser was simply the
fastest, craftiest man of the day."

Yea, I know you can't compare Gord's record vs Cipo's,
but it sure is nice to see him take him on and beat him
heads up, at least once.

Makes ya wonder why Cipo didn't show for the podium. I
don't think he wanted to stand on 3rd. He's Cipo,
after all.

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The word here in Atlanta was that he actually thought he
was 4th and didn't understand that he needed to head out.
Don't know if it's true or a convenient story but it's
possible.

From where I was standing, fourth place Ivan was not
anywhere near the top three (in relative terms.) The top
three riders were in a side by side drag race all the way to
the line and sprinters always know how they did when they
only can see two riders in front of them.

Cipo simply couldn't face a monster crowd after getting
whupped handily by Fraser. It was worth the fine to him. I'd
sure be [censored] if I was his sponsor. Scott Matson

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from velonews:

"It was a monumental win for Fraser, who, after
winning stage 1, called the result one of the biggest
of his career. But that day's victory wasn't an
outright test of speed against the Italian superstar,
as Cipollini had fallen off the pace the fourth time
over that course's hilly cobble-section and was unable
to contest the sprint. This time around, on a flat
finishing circuit, Cipollini had no excuses - Fraser
was simply the fastest, craftiest man of the day."

Yea, I know you can't compare Gord's record vs Cipo's,
but it sure is nice to see him take him on and beat
him heads up, at least once.

Makes ya wonder why Cipo didn't show for the podium. I
don't think he wanted to stand on 3rd. He's Cipo,
after all.

Maybe because he didn't want the attention that would have
been given to him on the podium to take away from Gord's
win and his moment on the podium. Dave

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Dave,

I hope you're joking.

The best way for Cipo to have made Gord's moment special
would be to have stood next to him on the podium and let the
fans see that Gord had beaten arguably the greatest sprinter
of the current generation. Of course, I doubt Cipo thought
about it that way.

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The word here in Atlanta was that he actually thought he
was 4th and didn't understand that he needed to head
out. Don't know if it's true or a convenient story but
it's possible.

From where I was standing, fourth place Ivan was not
anywhere near the top three (in relative terms.) The top
three riders were in a side by side drag race all the way
to the line and sprinters always know how they did when
they only can see two riders in front of them.

Cipo simply couldn't face a monster crowd after getting
whupped handily by Fraser. It was worth the fine to him.
I'd sure be [censored] if I was his sponsor.

Well, Specialized hasn't dumped him yet, and I figure
they're the primary reason the team was in Georgia, not to
promote the vacation resort in Egypt. (It works out for
Cipo's Giro training, but he could have done that
elsewhere.) Fans will mostly remember the gracious Lion King
as he signed autographs and won a sprint and flashed his
charismatic smile. I doubt many will think harshly of him
for missing a 3rd spot on the podium presentation.

I think Specialized got publicity in spades. They've been
trying to get him over to the US for years to do publicity
tours (he skipped out on one an LBS was hosting.)