Goods arrived and what's missing?

"Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Road bike off e bay arrived today in bits minus front
skewer which is OK

as

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I had one in the garage. However, front forks have been
loosened for

packing

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purposes (I hope) and I don't know how to set them up. Can
anyone help?

Not

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in the picture are some black stem spacers. See under
cat joke.

simonmason.karoo.netzfon.htmOpen ↗

It's OK - I think it's something to do with this star
fangled nut, might need LBS help.
parktool.comtns.shtmlOpen ↗

Simon

Simon Mason said:

front forks have been loosened for packing purposes (I
hope) and I don't know how to set them up. Can anyone
help? Not in the picture are some black stem spacers. See
under cat joke. simonmason.karoo.netzfon.htmOpen ↗

Nice cat picture!

The upper headset cup should be tight but the bit that fits
over it (just above it) can be loose before the stem is
fitted and headset adjusted. I'm not familiar with that
particular headset so I'm not sure if it's all present and
correct or not.

Providing there's enough room on the fork steerer tube,
you'll have the option of fitting spacers below or above
stem, or a combination of the two. I suggest trying all
below first.

Fit spacers on steerer, then stem (whichever way up you
want: they are reversable) without tightening bolts, then
top cap and bolt or bung device (something should be
supplied), then adjust headset. 2 and 5mm spacers are
available if you eventually need to fine tune height
better. Stems with more rise can be found if you need bars
higher, and of course different length ones if different
reach required.

Good instructions (for threadless stem & headset):
parktool.comFAQindex.shtmlOpen ↗

Adjust deliberately with play in the headset first (test by
rocking bike with front brake on) then gradually tighten
headset until play just disappears (loosening stem bolts
during adjustment every time).

Good luck. Let us know if any problems.

~PB

Simon Mason said:

It's OK - I think it's something to do with this star
fangled nut,

One of those (or an alternative) should be fitted or
supplied. Anything inside forks? Any small bits and pieces
supplied besides spacers?

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might need LBS help.

Well worth having a go yourself first if you've got all the
bits. Only tools required should be a couple of allen keys.

~PB

"Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The upper headset cup should be tight but the bit that
fits over it (just above it) can be loose before the stem
is fitted and headset adjusted. I'm not familiar with that
particular headset so I'm not sure if it's all present and
correct or not.

Providing there's enough room on the fork steerer tube,
you'll have the option of fitting spacers below or above
stem, or a combination of the two. I suggest trying all
below first.

Fit spacers on steerer, then stem (whichever way up you
want: they are reversable) without tightening bolts, then
top cap and bolt or bung device (something should be
supplied), then adjust headset. 2 and 5mm spacers are
available if you eventually need to fine tune height
better. Stems with more rise can be found if you need bars
higher, and of course different length ones if different
reach required.

Good instructions (for threadless stem & headset): http:/-
/www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQindex.shtml#headset

Adjust deliberately with play in the headset first (test
by rocking bike with front brake on) then gradually
tighten headset until play just disappears (loosening stem
bolts during adjustment every time).

Good luck. Let us know if any problems.

Thanks for that Pete. I think there must be a piece
missing. This is the view from the top of the stem,
there must be a threaded bolt missing that fits into
the star nut:

simonmason.karoo.netzfon1.htmOpen ↗

Simon

Simon Mason said:

Thanks for that Pete. I think there must be a piece
missing. This is the view from the top of the stem,
there must be a threaded bolt missing that fits into the
star nut:

simonmason.karoo.netzfon1.htmOpen ↗

Yes, you've got a star nut in there, so you need a top cap
and bolt. These are normally supplied with the headset (or
bike!) but any of the right size will do.

~PB

"Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Simon Mason said:

Thanks for that Pete. I think there must be a piece
missing. This is the view from the top of the stem,
there must be a threaded bolt missing that fits into
the star nut:

simonmason.karoo.netzfon1.htmOpen ↗

Yes, you've got a star nut in there, so you need a top cap
and bolt. These are normally supplied with the headset (or
bike!) but any of the right size will do.

Yes, that's what threw me, there was none supplied so I
couldn't for the life of me work out how to tighten the
forks. Thanks for the help.

Simon

Actually, it is possible to adjust the headset and ride with
bike as it is, if you fancy riding bike to the shop, or
permanently to save weight!*
:-) Stem can be pressed down by hand to load the
:headset before
tightening stem. Crude but possible.

* This is what I do after reading that Sheldon Brown does it
on one of his own bikes. I now normally use a bung device
thingy to adjust the headset, then replace it with a bulked-
out handlebar end plug (no hassle). It's perfectly safe to
ride like this as top bolt doesn't do anything once
headset is adjusted.

~PB

I said:

I now normally use a bung device thingy to adjust the
headset......

(just because it's easier and finer than pressing down by
hand, but it does the same thing, really)

~PB

I said:

Actually, it is possible to adjust the headset and ride
with bike as it is, if you fancy riding bike to the shop,
or permanently to save weight!* :-) Stem can be pressed
down by hand to load the headset before tightening stem.
Crude but possible.

* This is what I do after reading that Sheldon Brown does
it on one of his own bikes.

from tinyurl.com37wl7Open ↗ :

"By the way, my two newest personal bikes, an IRO Jamie Roy
and Thorn Raven both use 1 1/8 threadless, and I've put them
together with no star nut at all. I've found that I can
easily adjust the headset just by loosening the stem,
pushing the bars down forcefully while twisting the stem,
then clamp in place.

"I don' need no steenking starnut!

"If I were a weight weenie, this would save me a small
amount of weight.

"Since I'm not, I've found that it allows me to install a
quill type stem into the top of the steerer, with a short
piece of handlebar as a "space grip" allowing me to mount
stuff there. Also allows me to have fairly low main
handlebars, with the secondary, higher bars offering an
alternate position for more relaxed riding."
- Sheldon "Pushing The Envelope" Brown

Blimey!! - PB

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:47:00 -0000, Pete Biggs
<[email hidden]> quoted an honarary CTC member:

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"Since I'm not, I've found that it allows me to install a
quill type stem into the top of the steerer, with a short
piece of handlebar as a "space grip" allowing me to mount
stuff there. Also allows me to have fairly low main
handlebars, with the secondary, higher bars offering an
alternate position for more relaxed riding."
- Sheldon "Pushing The Envelope" Brown

Blimey!! - PB

Indeed. It reminds me of those double guitars much favoured
by rock and prog bands.

Colin
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Colin Blackburn said:

Indeed. It reminds me of those double guitars much
favoured by rock and prog bands.

Oddly enough, my insane chum Mr. Sunshine and I were having
a musical oneupmanship contest the other day. I /thought/
I'd won with these:

jemsite.comvai triple.htmOpen ↗

but he retaliated with a picture of Val Doonican, the
unprincipled git...

--

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:53:33 -0000, Dave Larrington <[email hidden]>

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Colin Blackburn said:

Indeed. It reminds me of those double guitars much
favoured by rock and prog bands.

Oddly enough, my insane chum Mr. Sunshine and I were
having a musical oneupmanship contest the other day. I
/thought/ I'd won with these:

jemsite.comvai triple.htmOpen ↗

Nice (he said in a post-Darkness iroinc sense)

Quoting about the triple:

Steve could play "Earth Dwellers Return" on the fretless
(bottom Neck) then without changing guitar could go straight
into "Here And Now"."

That sums up exactly why I took a change in musical
direction in 1976.

Did bikes ever get over blown and pointless? Ah, yes,
the lowrider.

Colin
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Colin Blackburn wrote:

[axe-o-nonse]

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That sums up exactly why I took a change in musical
direction in 1976.

Ah yes, 1976. The *REAL* Golden Age, according to some
people with too much time on their collective hands (as
announced on the stullivision this morning). They
illustrated same with, among other crimes against
practically everybody, The Brotherhood Of Man.

I have not the words.

--

Dave "What Did You Do In The Punk Wars, Daddy?" Larrington
Currently listening to Queens Of The Stone Age

Colin Blackburn said:

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jemsite.comvai triple.htmOpen ↗

Nice (he said in a post-Darkness iroinc sense)

That's funny, I also immediately thought of The Darkness
when I saw those gitars (sic). So glad they didn't get the
Christman Number One :-D

~PB

"Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Simon Mason said:

Thanks for that Pete. I think there must be a piece
missing. This is the view from the top of the stem,
there must be a threaded bolt missing that fits into
the star nut:

This was the missing bit, 2.50 from LBS
simonmason.karoo.netzfon2.htmOpen ↗ I even managed to
mess that up. After hammering the thing into the tube, I
tried to tighten it up after previously clamping the
handlebars to the stem, so it was only getting tighter
against the bars, not the fork bearings. Nearly rounded the
hex nut before I realised. What a clown!
--
Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W
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Simon Mason said:

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Simon Mason said:

Thanks for that Pete. I think there must be a piece
missing. This is the view from the top of the stem,
there must be a threaded bolt missing that fits into the
star nut:

This was the missing bit, 2.50 from LBS
simonmason.karoo.netzfon2.htmOpen ↗ I even managed
to mess that up. After hammering the thing into the tube,
I tried to tighten it up after previously clamping the
handlebars to the stem, so it was only getting tighter
against the bars, not the fork bearings. Nearly rounded
the hex nut before I realised. What a clown!

Its nice to find someone who is as good at bike maintenance
as I am 🙂 I made the same mistake with my first aheadset.

Stan (It doesnt count as fixed unless I have drawn blood)Cox

looks like a nice ride. what are the bits, and how much was
the whole lot?

"David Waters" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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looks like a nice ride. what are the bits, and how much
was the whole lot?

Not sure if you're referring to my bike or not, but the
story is here: simonmason.karoo.netpage473.htmOpen ↗