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  1. Triptronic gearshift system for mountainbikes. I've noticed there are a few
    new bikes being designed with the gears mounted internally in the frame,
    (like that Honda prototype.) Imagine just having to touch a button to
    change gears rather than forcing shifters. 🙂

    I think it's been done before, but not this way.

    --
    "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

  2. Again, the usefulness of singlespeeds is magnified.

    JD

  3. One of the main advantages seems to be that you can change gears
    without pedalling. Big whoop. I can do the same thing with my Shimano
    Integra FF's chainring freewheel, and save my precious thumbs using my
    Browning Automatic Transmission.

    /s

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    One of the main advantages seems to be that you can change gears
    without pedalling. Big whoop. I can do the same thing with my Shimano
    Integra FF's chainring freewheel, and save my precious thumbs using my
    Browning Automatic Transmission.

    /s


    That wasn't quite what I was getting at. I would imagine racers would like
    shifting to be pretty much instantaneous and easy without having to stop
    peddling. The result being that you can change gears without having to stop
    peddling, (yes, I know it happens with normal gearing.) But wouldn't it be
    easier on the thumbs?

    You could have quickshifting, (shifting from one end of the ratio to the
    other,) which I would find pretty usefull, or even jumping between different
    ratios.

    Automatic is ok, but wouldn't you like more controll. What would you rather
    have in your car, automatic or triptronic?

  5. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Again, the usefulness of singlespeeds is magnified.

    JD


    What is the big fascination with singlespeed?

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    Again, the usefulness of singlespeeds is magnified.

    JD


    What is the big fascination with singlespeed?

    It gives JD a reason to feel hardcore and call everyone a [censored]. He needs
    that.

    cc


    If nobody can come up with a decent reason as to why singlespeed is better
    than multispeed, then i'll stick with your answer CC. 🙂

  7. NeuS said:

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    Again, the usefulness of singlespeeds is magnified.

    JD


    What is the big fascination with singlespeed?

    You may see singlespeeding as a fascination, but many see it as an
    advantage.

    Fewer moving parts means fewer broken parts. A "clean" chainline
    brings power to the wheel better. No dish on the rear wheel makes for
    a stronger wheel and the need for only one spoke size. A botique
    singlespeed normally costs up to and sometimes over $1000 less than a
    comparable geared bicycle. Not having to think about changing gears
    leaves the mind more available to controlling your bicycle. Skills
    such as half-pedaling, accelerating on uphill turns, and maintaining
    momentum are more easily learned (and apparent as a useful skill on any
    mountain bike) while riding a singlespeed.

    What is your big fascination with technology?

    JD

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    NeuS said:

    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Again, the usefulness of singlespeeds is magnified.

    JD


    What is the big fascination with singlespeed?

    You may see singlespeeding as a fascination, but many see it as an
    advantage.

    Fewer moving parts means fewer broken parts. A "clean" chainline
    brings power to the wheel better. No dish on the rear wheel makes for
    a stronger wheel and the need for only one spoke size. A botique
    singlespeed normally costs up to and sometimes over $1000 less than a
    comparable geared bicycle. Not having to think about changing gears
    leaves the mind more available to controlling your bicycle. Skills
    such as half-pedaling, accelerating on uphill turns, and maintaining
    momentum are more easily learned (and apparent as a useful skill on any
    mountain bike) while riding a singlespeed.

    What is your big fascination with technology?

    JD


    Hmmmm, that's only your view though. Not everyone will share that same
    view.

    Let's put it this way. On some of the rides i've done, a singlespeed would
    be totally useless. I'm not the fittest person in the world and i'm
    gratefull gearing exists. Maybe CC is right. If you can cycle with a
    singlespeed comfortably, then do so. But if you can't, it doesn't mean
    you're a complete weakling.

  9. Got a link? Can't find anything that really speaks to this design...

    "Ne><uS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Triptronic gearshift system for mountainbikes. I've noticed there are a


    few

    Quoted message said:

    new bikes being designed with the gears mounted internally in the frame,
    (like that Honda prototype.) Imagine just having to touch a button to
    change gears rather than forcing shifters. 🙂

    I think it's been done before, but not this way.

    --
    "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

  10. "Ne><uS" ...

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    Hmmmm, that's only your view though. Not everyone will share that same
    view.

    Let's put it this way. On some of the rides i've done, a singlespeed would
    be totally useless.


    Now you're asking for trouble...

    Parbs - who rides a SS but also fascinated with technology

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    "Ne><uS" ...

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    Hmmmm, that's only your view though. Not everyone will share that same
    view.

    Let's put it this way. On some of the rides i've done, a singlespeed
    would
    be totally useless.


    Now you're asking for trouble...

    Parbs - who rides a SS but also fascinated with technology


    Pah! I always ask for trouble. I take it you've seen that new Honda
    MountainBike?

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    Got a link? Can't find anything that really speaks to this design...


    I don't think they exist, (not triptronic anyway.) But i've been pointed
    out an electronic automatic gearing system.

    It was an idea of mine, but no one seems to be taking a shine to it. 🙂

  13. NeuS said:

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    Got a link? Can't find anything that really speaks to this design...

    I don't think they exist, (not triptronic anyway.) But i've been pointed
    out an electronic automatic gearing system.

    It was an idea of mine, but no one seems to be taking a shine to it. 🙂

    It might appeal to motorheads considering bicycles, but I think most
    cyclists would prefer something more simple and relatively easy to repair.

    Leave it up to people who would buy a bike from a car company.

    Matt (singlespeed, multi-speed, skateboard, skis, and feet are all good IMO)

  14. Look at the purse. At $7,700 frame and shock. Your a
    dreamer getting ready to crash in to hell.

  15. You focus on shifting? How long have you been riding? 3 days?

    Who was the "free-climbing solo" idiot? Inquiring minds want to know.

    Greg

  16. NeuS said:

    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    NeuS said:

    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > Again, the usefulness of singlespeeds is magnified.
    >
    > JD
    >
    What is the big fascination with singlespeed?

    You may see singlespeeding as a fascination, but many see it as an
    advantage.

    Fewer moving parts means fewer broken parts. A "clean" chainline
    brings power to the wheel better. No dish on the rear wheel makes


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a stronger wheel and the need for only one spoke size. A botique
    singlespeed normally costs up to and sometimes over $1000 less than


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    comparable geared bicycle. Not having to think about changing


    gears

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    leaves the mind more available to controlling your bicycle. Skills
    such as half-pedaling, accelerating on uphill turns, and


    maintaining

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    momentum are more easily learned (and apparent as a useful skill on


    any

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    mountain bike) while riding a singlespeed.

    What is your big fascination with technology?

    JD


    Hmmmm, that's only your view though. Not everyone will share that


    same

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    view.

    I share that view and I'm not even a JD fan.

    Quoted message said:


    Let's put it this way. On some of the rides i've done, a singlespeed


    would

    Quoted message said:

    be totally useless.

    Useless or just too much work?

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not the fittest person in the world and i'm
    gratefull gearing exists. Maybe CC is right. If you can cycle with


    a

    Quoted message said:

    singlespeed comfortably, then do so. But if you can't, it doesn't


    mean

    Quoted message said:

    you're a complete weakling.

    That's pretty weak. (pun intended)

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    NeuS said:

    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Ne><uS wrote:
    > "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > Again, the usefulness of singlespeeds is magnified.
    > >
    > > JD
    > >
    > What is the big fascination with singlespeed?

    You may see singlespeeding as a fascination, but many see it as an
    advantage.

    Fewer moving parts means fewer broken parts. A "clean" chainline
    brings power to the wheel better. No dish on the rear wheel makes


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a stronger wheel and the need for only one spoke size. A botique
    singlespeed normally costs up to and sometimes over $1000 less than


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    comparable geared bicycle. Not having to think about changing


    gears

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    leaves the mind more available to controlling your bicycle. Skills
    such as half-pedaling, accelerating on uphill turns, and


    maintaining

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    momentum are more easily learned (and apparent as a useful skill on


    any

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    mountain bike) while riding a singlespeed.

    What is your big fascination with technology?

    JD


    Hmmmm, that's only your view though. Not everyone will share that


    same

    Quoted message said:

    view.

    I share that view and I'm not even a JD fan.

    Quoted message said:


    Let's put it this way. On some of the rides i've done, a singlespeed


    would

    Quoted message said:

    be totally useless.

    Useless or just too much work?

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not the fittest person in the world and i'm
    gratefull gearing exists. Maybe CC is right. If you can cycle with


    a

    Quoted message said:

    singlespeed comfortably, then do so. But if you can't, it doesn't


    mean

    Quoted message said:

    you're a complete weakling.

    That's pretty weak. (pun intended)

    I ride my singlespeed 3 times a week and my geared bike once a week. Yes I
    do some walking up hills with the SS but I do not feel it "was useless" I
    get stronger the more I ride the SS. I ride the SS to become a better rider
    and it has significantly increased my strength. I am not disciplined and
    lazy by nature...if there is a lower gear I will use it. Example: I have
    thought about putting a Boone 20 tooth granny gear on my 5Spot.

    We all ride for our own reasons: mine are to explore new trails...clear my
    head by getting away from the urban sprawl. I prefer to ride alone and get
    into the trail and the sounds...the only thing I hear on my SS are the
    knobies on the dirt...kind of a Zen thing.

    If I could ride 25+ miles and climb 3-5000ft on the SS I would probably ride
    the SS the forth day and rarely ride the 5spot.

    This was not to change anyone's mind about singlespeeds, but I do react when
    I feel someone has practiced contempt prior to investigation.

    Dean: 53 year old non-hard core rider.

  18. Welcome to alt.adult-bmx....

  19. NeuS said:

    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    NeuS said:

    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > Again, the usefulness of singlespeeds is magnified.
    >
    > JD
    >
    What is the big fascination with singlespeed?

    You may see singlespeeding as a fascination, but many see it as an
    advantage.

    Fewer moving parts means fewer broken parts. A "clean" chainline
    brings power to the wheel better. No dish on the rear wheel makes


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a stronger wheel and the need for only one spoke size. A botique
    singlespeed normally costs up to and sometimes over $1000 less than


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    comparable geared bicycle. Not having to think about changing


    gears

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    leaves the mind more available to controlling your bicycle. Skills
    such as half-pedaling, accelerating on uphill turns, and


    maintaining

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    momentum are more easily learned (and apparent as a useful skill on


    any

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    mountain bike) while riding a singlespeed.

    What is your big fascination with technology?

    JD


    Hmmmm, that's only your view though. Not everyone will share that


    same

    Quoted message said:

    view.

    I never said "everyone", I said "many", which is true in not making it
    just my view.

    Quoted message said:

    Let's put it this way. On some of the rides i've done, a singlespeed


    would

    Quoted message said:

    be totally useless.

    For you maybe. Others may not see it that way.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not the fittest person in the world and i'm gratefull gearing


    exists.

    Bummer for you being so myopic.

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe CC is right.

    Doubtful.

    Quoted message said:

    If you can cycle with a singlespeed comfortably, then do so.

    Many do and do so on any trail they wish to, regardless of how
    difficult others may see it.

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    But if you can't, it doesn't mean you're a complete weakling.

    So, tell us all where I called anyone a "complete weakling", or even
    indicated that they are one because they don't singlespeed? Your
    fragile psyche and myopia sould be troubling you more than anthing else
    at this point.

    JD

  20. Dean A. Stepper said:

    If I could ride 25+ miles and climb 3-5000ft on the SS

    Sounds like my jaunt yesterday afternoon in the Santa Anas. It sure
    was cool up top and the "saddleback" was shrouded the whole time.

    JD

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