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  1. On the way home tonight, I was following another cyclist and we hit a yellow
    light. I could have laid on the brakes and stopped, but I pedaled on. I
    saw the light turn red as I passed exactly underneath it. An old Lincoln
    next to me did the opposite and stopped. I immediately heard a stream of
    yelling from the car, something along the lines of RED LIGHT! BIKES FOLLOW
    THE LAWS TOO! Then he (it became it was obvious then it was the passenger)
    yelled the same thing again as he passed us.

    As fate would have it, I stopped alongside him at the next light, and
    snapped to a stop alongside his window. He rolled it down and started his
    tirade, to which I interrupted at great volume: Is this (pointing at my
    bike) going to kill anyone? Is that? (pointing at his buddy's car). Upon
    noticing the light was now green, I said "Green means go!" (I guess the cars
    in line were more anxious to see the show than get home) and started
    pedaling off. He remarked something about my "[censored] bike" to which I
    yelled (as he was a few yards ahead now) TOUGH GUY IN THE CAR! (Short for
    "You're a real tough guy in the car) Which had more effect as he was passing
    a wide paved area his buddy could easily pull over in.

    Although I probably should have grin and borne it, I seemed to have lost
    that ability after a tour in Iraq and having colleagues die in helicopter
    crashes in Afghanistan.

    Next time I will try: Do you do this to cars? I'm not going to kill
    anyone. Why go all Barney Fife on me? then a mocking "Citizen's arrest!
    Citizen's arrest! (Yes I know that was actually Gomer) He rode his bike
    through a red light! If I have time I will add: "Why don't you go slow
    traffic down on the Interstate? That might save actually save somebody."

    That sounds about right, more questioning and mocking than confrontational.
    I mean what could be more silly than going ape [censored] about a bike "impeding
    safety" on roads full of vehicles with 100 times more impact force.

    --
    Robert Haston
    Satellite Beach, FL

  2. Actually, you were not in violation if the light was yellow when you
    entered the intersection. Florida Statute 316.075
    [censored] Durbin
    Tallahassee

  3. "Robert Haston" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    On the way home tonight, I was following another cyclist and we hit a


    yellow

    Quoted message said:

    light. I could have laid on the brakes and stopped, but I pedaled on.

    There was perhaps an element of truth in their criticism, or at least
    a difference of opinion that you could have or should have stopped,--
    however inappropriately that opinion was expressed...

    Quoted message said:

    I saw the light turn red as I passed exactly underneath it. An
    old Lincoln next to me did the opposite and stopped. I immediately
    heard a stream of yelling from the car, something along the lines
    of RED LIGHT! BIKES FOLLOW THE LAWS TOO!
    [...]
    Although I probably should have grin and borne it,

    Perhaps you might have simply said something declarative like,
    "I didn't think I could stop in time and I was out of the intersection
    before the light turned red."

    These people were unlikely to respond by de-escalating the situation
    regardless of what you said or did. But by not responding in kind,
    you might have established your position sufficiently that you
    could then grin and borne it.

    Responding appropriately to provocation is a challenge deeply
    entrenched in human nature/culture. Consider the recent NBA
    players/fans fight scene... Letting others "push our buttons" is
    common. I don't find very satisfying remembering the feeling
    of a provoked angry response, so I try avoid it.

    Maybe we need "Zen and the Art of Bicycle Riding." %^)

    Jon Meinecke

  4. Had a bit of trouble following what you wrote, but figure I got the jest of
    it.
    In the future while riding your [censored] bike, try being quiet and give a big
    broad
    smile at people who put you down, seems to confuse them. They are looking to
    degrade you and you smile in return and if they have more than 3 active
    brain cells,
    at some point they will realize your grin is really mocking them.
    Backup plan = get a magnet backed sign reading "I support Osama Bin Laden"
    and at the next traffic stop quietly attach it to their car and ride away,
    it lets Patriots in other cars take care of those who have unjustly
    tormented you.

    In my old age I have toned down my rage against car drivers, I no longer use
    my shoe and kick the driver side mirror off their car, have stopped using
    the Awl I carried to scratch a line bumper to bumper and I no longer use my
    (apparently useless) Kryptonite lock to bash out tail lights....although all
    of the above did make my daily commute more enjoyable taking out my contempt
    on cars and big honking SUVs, I found the Big Smile works just as well.

    Joshua
    ******

    "Robert Haston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On the way home tonight, I was following another cyclist and we hit a
    yellow light. I could have laid on the brakes and stopped, but I pedaled
    on. I saw the light turn red as I passed exactly underneath it. An old
    Lincoln next to me did the opposite and stopped. I immediately heard a
    stream of yelling from the car, something along the lines of RED LIGHT!
    BIKES FOLLOW THE LAWS TOO! Then he (it became it was obvious then it was
    the passenger)
    yelled the same thing again as he passed us.

    As fate would have it, I stopped alongside him at the next light, and
    snapped to a stop alongside his window. He rolled it down and started his
    tirade, to which I interrupted at great volume: Is this (pointing at my
    bike) going to kill anyone? Is that? (pointing at his buddy's car). Upon
    noticing the light was now green, I said "Green means go!" (I guess the
    cars in line were more anxious to see the show than get home) and started
    pedaling off. He remarked something about my "[censored] bike" to which I
    yelled (as he was a few yards ahead now) TOUGH GUY IN THE CAR! (Short for
    "You're a real tough guy in the car) Which had more effect as he was
    passing a wide paved area his buddy could easily pull over in.

    Although I probably should have grin and borne it, I seemed to have lost
    that ability after a tour in Iraq and having colleagues die in helicopter
    crashes in Afghanistan.

    Next time I will try: Do you do this to cars? I'm not going to kill
    anyone. Why go all Barney Fife on me? then a mocking "Citizen's arrest!
    Citizen's arrest! (Yes I know that was actually Gomer) He rode his bike
    through a red light! If I have time I will add: "Why don't you go slow
    traffic down on the Interstate? That might save actually save somebody."

    That sounds about right, more questioning and mocking than
    confrontational. I mean what could be more silly than going ape [censored] about
    a bike "impeding safety" on roads full of vehicles with 100 times more
    impact force.

    --
    Robert Haston
    Satellite Beach, FL

  5. On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:57:23 -0500

    Joshua Goldberg said:

    In my old age I have toned down my rage against car drivers, I no longer
    use my shoe and kick the driver side mirror off their car, have stopped
    using the Awl I carried to scratch a line bumper to bumper and I no
    longer use my (apparently useless) Kryptonite lock to bash out tail
    lights....although all of the above did make my daily commute more
    enjoyable taking out my contempt on cars and big honking SUVs, I found
    the Big Smile works just as well.

    I used to know a guy (a french guy, even) who said that one day as he
    was riding his BikeE down the road, a bunch of kids in a honda with a loud
    tailpipe and a bunch of stickers shot him with paint balls as they passed.

    So he pulled up along-side them, pulled out his locking knife, and
    slashed their tires.

    He says they said, "What was that for?!" and he just pedaled away,
    leaving them in the inside lane of a 4 lane intersection with two ruined
    tires.

    Extreme, yes, but what are they going to tell the cops? They confiscate
    and destroy paint ball guns found in possession of the under-aged around
    here. Operating one while in a moving vehicle can probably get your riced
    up honda impounded, too. And the description? "A guy with a thin mustache
    on a weird bike!"

  6. "Robert Haston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On the way home tonight, I was following another cyclist and we hit a


    yellow

    Quoted message said:

    light. I could have laid on the brakes and stopped, but I pedaled on. I
    saw the light turn red as I passed exactly underneath it. An old Lincoln
    next to me did the opposite and stopped. I immediately heard a stream of
    yelling from the car, something along the lines of RED LIGHT! BIKES FOLLOW
    THE LAWS TOO! Then he (it became it was obvious then it was the


    passenger)

    Quoted message said:

    yelled the same thing again as he passed us.

    As fate would have it, I stopped alongside him at the next light, and
    snapped to a stop alongside his window. He rolled it down and started his
    tirade, to which I interrupted at great volume: Is this (pointing at my
    bike) going to kill anyone? Is that? (pointing at his buddy's car). Upon
    noticing the light was now green, I said "Green means go!" (I guess the


    cars

    Quoted message said:

    in line were more anxious to see the show than get home) and started
    pedaling off. He remarked something about my "[censored] bike" to which I
    yelled (as he was a few yards ahead now) TOUGH GUY IN THE CAR! (Short for
    "You're a real tough guy in the car) Which had more effect as he was


    passing

    Quoted message said:

    a wide paved area his buddy could easily pull over in.

    Although I probably should have grin and borne it, I seemed to have lost
    that ability after a tour in Iraq and having colleagues die in helicopter
    crashes in Afghanistan.

    Next time I will try: Do you do this to cars? I'm not going to kill
    anyone. Why go all Barney Fife on me? then a mocking "Citizen's arrest!
    Citizen's arrest! (Yes I know that was actually Gomer) He rode his bike
    through a red light! If I have time I will add: "Why don't you go slow
    traffic down on the Interstate? That might save actually save somebody."

    That sounds about right, more questioning and mocking than


    confrontational.

    Quoted message said:

    I mean what could be more silly than going ape [censored] about a bike "impeding
    safety" on roads full of vehicles with 100 times more impact force.

    --
    Robert Haston
    Satellite Beach, FL

    Try that over here [censored], and we will take care of you, and your stinking
    little girly-bicycle, too.

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  7. That is EXACTLY why I love my motor. Halfway through an orange light-
    uh oh- BYE! I am more for avoiding ugly situatiions with noise,
    paintballs, and yells; if anyone is asked who was that, who did that,
    what was that- "dunno: some yellow and silver blur."

    Chris Jordan
    Santa Cruz, CA.

    Eric Jorgensen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<20041124080114.2232475e@wafer>. And the description? "A guy with a thin mustache

    Quoted message said:

    on a weird bike!"

  8. On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:01:14 -0700 "Eric Jorgensen"
    used 29 lines of text to write in newsgroup:
    alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent

    Quoted message said:

    I used to know a guy (a french guy, even) who said that one day as he
    was riding his BikeE down the road, a bunch of kids in a honda with a loud
    tailpipe and a bunch of stickers shot him with paint balls as they passed.

    So he pulled up along-side them, pulled out his locking knife, and
    slashed their tires.

    He says they said, "What was that for?!" and he just pedaled away,
    leaving them in the inside lane of a 4 lane intersection with two ruined
    tires.

    Extreme, yes, but what are they going to tell the cops? They confiscate
    and destroy paint ball guns found in possession of the under-aged around
    here. Operating one while in a moving vehicle can probably get your riced
    up honda impounded, too. And the description? "A guy with a thin mustache
    on a weird bike!"

    Houston, Tx: A teen was killed and three injured recently because a
    driver didn't appreciate getting shot at with paint balls.
    http://www.click2houston.com/news/3878311/detail.html?subid=22100412&qs=1;bp=t
    The man who rammed their truck gets charged with intoxication
    manslaughter and intoxication assault:
    http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/110204_local_paintball.html

    Newburgh, NY: 5 teens charged with reckless endangerment for shooting
    a police car:
    http://1010wins.com/topstories/winstopstories_story_183104942.html

    Camden, Maine: Teen charged with aggravated assault for shooting
    another teen:
    http://camden.villagesoup.com/Government/Story.cfm?StoryID=27696

    Sioux Falls, SD: Two teens charged with seven counts each of simple
    assault for firing paint balls at people (including a pregnant woman):
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6570958/

    The point I'm trying to make is, teenagers are stupid.

    --
    -Graham

    "What I have mostly against middle aged white liberals like you is that you do not know how to hate the proper
    people." -Ed Dolan

  9. After a few almost encounters, I just smile and wave to these idiots.
    Checkout what a former bicycle road rager did last week in these parts:

    http://tinyurl.com/4b4zh

    Rod
    Riverview,FL

    "Robert Haston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On the way home tonight, I was following another cyclist and we hit a


    yellow

    Quoted message said:

    light. I could have laid on the brakes and stopped, but I pedaled on. I
    saw the light turn red as I passed exactly underneath it. An old Lincoln
    next to me did the opposite and stopped. I immediately heard a stream of
    yelling from the car, something along the lines of RED LIGHT! BIKES FOLLOW
    THE LAWS TOO! Then he (it became it was obvious then it was the


    passenger)

    Quoted message said:

    yelled the same thing again as he passed us.

    As fate would have it, I stopped alongside him at the next light, and
    snapped to a stop alongside his window. He rolled it down and started his
    tirade, to which I interrupted at great volume: Is this (pointing at my
    bike) going to kill anyone? Is that? (pointing at his buddy's car). Upon
    noticing the light was now green, I said "Green means go!" (I guess the


    cars

    Quoted message said:

    in line were more anxious to see the show than get home) and started
    pedaling off. He remarked something about my "[censored] bike" to which I
    yelled (as he was a few yards ahead now) TOUGH GUY IN THE CAR! (Short for
    "You're a real tough guy in the car) Which had more effect as he was


    passing

    Quoted message said:

    a wide paved area his buddy could easily pull over in.

    Although I probably should have grin and borne it, I seemed to have lost
    that ability after a tour in Iraq and having colleagues die in helicopter
    crashes in Afghanistan.

    Next time I will try: Do you do this to cars? I'm not going to kill
    anyone. Why go all Barney Fife on me? then a mocking "Citizen's arrest!
    Citizen's arrest! (Yes I know that was actually Gomer) He rode his bike
    through a red light! If I have time I will add: "Why don't you go slow
    traffic down on the Interstate? That might save actually save somebody."

    That sounds about right, more questioning and mocking than


    confrontational.

    Quoted message said:

    I mean what could be more silly than going ape [censored] about a bike "impeding
    safety" on roads full of vehicles with 100 times more impact force.

    --
    Robert Haston
    Satellite Beach, FL

  10. In my old age I have come to the conclusion that for a cyclist to physically
    attack a car driven by someone who should not breed has a downside, namely
    the car driver may use his car as a weapon to punish you...or road rage
    where the driver gets out of his car and beats the bejeezus out of you.

    A few years ago a guy in a SUV who passed me and cut in front of
    me...causing me to hit my brakes fast, I reacted by giving him the Finger
    and I guess he saw this in his rear view mirror and then threw his truck in
    reverse to run over me. Fortunately for me, I do not appear large in a
    semi-prone riding position. When he got out of his SUV to yell at me, I
    stood up and he re-thought yelling at me...my being taller and considerably
    bigger than he was. I am sure if I was not built like a football player, he
    would have done me bodily harm.

    Had I physically attacked his SUV and did not look like someone your mother
    warned you about, he could have mangled me.

    I therefore now feel taking out your contempt and anger on anything weighing
    2500-3,000 lbs and driven by a moron, is likely not a wise move.

    IF I am attacked by anyone with a motor vehicle, I will and do go totally
    ballistic, but for younger and less physically intimidating riders...better
    to ignore and chalk it up to just one more memorable riding experience you
    survived. Losing your dignity on a ride is better than losing body parts or
    your life.

    *I know I am getting old because a few years ago I'd be suggesting riders
    carry a flare gun and pop a flare into the back seat of any car that has
    interfered with your ride.

    Joshua
    ******

    "G. Morgan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:01:14 -0700 "Eric Jorgensen"
    used 29 lines of text to write in newsgroup:
    alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent

    Quoted message said:

    I used to know a guy (a french guy, even) who said that one day as he
    was riding his BikeE down the road, a bunch of kids in a honda with a loud
    tailpipe and a bunch of stickers shot him with paint balls as they passed.

    So he pulled up along-side them, pulled out his locking knife, and
    slashed their tires.

    He says they said, "What was that for?!" and he just pedaled away,
    leaving them in the inside lane of a 4 lane intersection with two ruined
    tires.

    Extreme, yes, but what are they going to tell the cops? They confiscate
    and destroy paint ball guns found in possession of the under-aged around
    here. Operating one while in a moving vehicle can probably get your riced
    up honda impounded, too. And the description? "A guy with a thin mustache
    on a weird bike!"

  11. "Robert Haston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On the way home tonight, I was following another cyclist and we hit a yellow
    light. I could have laid on the brakes and stopped, but I pedaled on. I
    saw the light turn red as I passed exactly underneath it. An old Lincoln
    next to me did the opposite and stopped. I immediately heard a stream of
    yelling from the car, something along the lines of RED LIGHT! BIKES FOLLOW
    THE LAWS TOO! Then he (it became it was obvious then it was the passenger)
    yelled the same thing again as he passed us.

    As fate would have it, I stopped alongside him at the next light, and
    snapped to a stop alongside his window. He rolled it down and started his
    tirade, to which I interrupted at great volume: Is this (pointing at my
    bike) going to kill anyone? Is that? (pointing at his buddy's car). Upon
    noticing the light was now green, I said "Green means go!" (I guess the cars
    in line were more anxious to see the show than get home) and started
    pedaling off. He remarked something about my "[censored] bike" to which I
    yelled (as he was a few yards ahead now) TOUGH GUY IN THE CAR! (Short for
    "You're a real tough guy in the car) Which had more effect as he was passing
    a wide paved area his buddy could easily pull over in.

    Although I probably should have grin and borne it, I seemed to have lost
    that ability after a tour in Iraq and having colleagues die in helicopter
    crashes in Afghanistan.

    Next time I will try: Do you do this to cars? I'm not going to kill
    anyone. Why go all Barney Fife on me? then a mocking "Citizen's arrest!
    Citizen's arrest! (Yes I know that was actually Gomer) He rode his bike
    through a red light! If I have time I will add: "Why don't you go slow
    traffic down on the Interstate? That might save actually save somebody."

    That sounds about right, more questioning and mocking than confrontational.
    I mean what could be more silly than going ape [censored] about a bike "impeding
    safety" on roads full of vehicles with 100 times more impact force.

    Riding on the road is a game and the goal is to win money in the court
    battle. Try to figure out how you can win a whole lot of money in
    court from another car driver who is a danger to society. At the
    second light you could have just gone thru it while it was red. This
    might provoke the Lincoln driver do do something real stupid like try
    to arrest you. That would be kidnapping. Maybe the idiot will try to
    run you down and accidentally hit another car. When people get angry
    they sometimes make mistakes that you should take advantage of. Only
    cops have the right to enforce traffic laws. When I ride I only think
    of how I can sue someone and win. If someone does make me angry then
    it only increases my adrenaline and which lets me ride faster. Road
    rage improves my bicycle speed. In my old age I have enjoyed the road
    rage game because it livens up my boring commutes.

  12. Joseph Kochanowski said:

    Riding on the road is a game and the goal is to win money in the court
    battle. ...

    In my old age I have enjoyed the road

    Quoted message said:

    rage game because it livens up my boring commutes.

    I've been sharing the road with cagers for about three decades now, and
    have never had a major incident. Nothing worse than losing a few square
    feet of skin. At least half of my rides have no noteworthy occurrences
    involving cars, not even a threat of danger. (I ride anywhere from
    50-150 days per year.)

    But I LOVE this attitude and will adopt it. 🙂

    --
    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
    "We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning young soldiers to
    a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
    them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
    could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
    instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"

  13. "Joseph Kochanowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Robert Haston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    snip

    Riding on the road is a game and the goal is to win money in the court
    battle. Try to figure out how you can win a whole lot of money in
    court from another car driver who is a danger to society. At the
    second light you could have just gone thru it while it was red. This
    might provoke the Lincoln driver do do something real stupid like try
    to arrest you. That would be kidnapping. Maybe the idiot will try to
    run you down and accidentally hit another car. When people get angry
    they sometimes make mistakes that you should take advantage of. Only
    cops have the right to enforce traffic laws. When I ride I only think
    of how I can sue someone and win. If someone does make me angry then
    it only increases my adrenaline and which lets me ride faster. Road
    rage improves my bicycle speed. In my old age I have enjoyed the road
    rage game because it livens up my boring commutes.

    I told the last guy who started in on me from his car at a red light that
    I'd call 911 and report a road rage incident, and mention the can of beer
    parked between his legs if he didn't grow up. He shut up. I rode off.

    I did call in a 911 when a crazy lady tried to illegally pass me in bumper
    to bumper traffic and run me into the parked cars. I tried to Joshua her
    passenger side rear view and she stopped and started swearing at me. There
    was a youngish teen girl in the car with the mad woman suffering her vulgar
    diatribe at me. She was holding up a huge line of cars with her rant. It
    took the cop about 45 seconds to get there. Made the crazy lady pull over
    and wait while he took my statement. Not the first time the crazy lady has
    had contact with the police according to him. I felt sorry for the girl. The
    cop started talking [censored] to me about bikes and cars like I was a ten year
    old kid. I was only riding one block to get from one trail head to another
    and I reminded the cop about my legal rights to the road and that I was
    obeying the rules. Traffic snails through this one main street town. I was
    polite to the cop while exposing his anti bike prejudices from his traffic
    lecture, but I did criticize him for his attitude. I insinuated that while I
    was a rules abiding bicyclist, perhaps he wasn't when he rode his bike and
    that was the basis for his attitude.

    I still worry about the little girl.

  14. On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:18:03 -0600

    harv' harv*don't*send*spam*to said:

    bumper to bumper traffic and run me into the parked cars. I tried to
    Joshua her passenger side rear view and she stopped and started swearing

    Joshua? unfamiliar with this term.

  15. Quoted message said:

    Joseph Kochanowski wrote:


    Road rage improves my bicycle speed.

    I agree completely, Joe. I too often read wimpy replies about rage
    vs. milk-of-humankindness or passivity. Anger has its uses. The
    fight-AND-flight response.

    C.C.,Rider

  16. Quoted message said:
    Joseph Kochanowski said:

    Riding on the road is a game and the goal is to win money in the court
    battle. ...

    I would hope for Mr. Joseph Kochanowski's sake that, if he is ever involved in
    an actual civil action, his post here isn't discovered and used against him.

    James S. Prine
    http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-29946-6
    http://hometown.aol.com/jsprine/

  17. "Joseph Kochanowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Robert Haston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On the way home tonight, I was following another cyclist and we hit a
    yellow
    light. I could have laid on the brakes and stopped, but I pedaled on. I
    saw the light turn red as I passed exactly underneath it. An old Lincoln
    next to me did the opposite and stopped. I immediately heard a stream of
    yelling from the car, something along the lines of RED LIGHT! BIKES
    FOLLOW
    THE LAWS TOO! Then he (it became it was obvious then it was the
    passenger)
    yelled the same thing again as he passed us.

    As fate would have it, I stopped alongside him at the next light, and
    snapped to a stop alongside his window. He rolled it down and started
    his
    tirade, to which I interrupted at great volume: Is this (pointing at my
    bike) going to kill anyone? Is that? (pointing at his buddy's car).
    Upon
    noticing the light was now green, I said "Green means go!" (I guess the
    cars
    in line were more anxious to see the show than get home) and started
    pedaling off. He remarked something about my "[censored] bike" to which I
    yelled (as he was a few yards ahead now) TOUGH GUY IN THE CAR! (Short for
    "You're a real tough guy in the car) Which had more effect as he was
    passing
    a wide paved area his buddy could easily pull over in.

    Although I probably should have grin and borne it, I seemed to have lost
    that ability after a tour in Iraq and having colleagues die in helicopter
    crashes in Afghanistan.

    Next time I will try: Do you do this to cars? I'm not going to kill
    anyone. Why go all Barney Fife on me? then a mocking "Citizen's arrest!
    Citizen's arrest! (Yes I know that was actually Gomer) He rode his bike
    through a red light! If I have time I will add: "Why don't you go slow
    traffic down on the Interstate? That might save actually save somebody."

    That sounds about right, more questioning and mocking than
    confrontational.
    I mean what could be more silly than going ape [censored] about a bike
    "impeding
    safety" on roads full of vehicles with 100 times more impact force.

    Riding on the road is a game and the goal is to win money in the court
    battle. Try to figure out how you can win a whole lot of money in
    court from another car driver who is a danger to society. At the
    second light you could have just gone thru it while it was red. This
    might provoke the Lincoln driver do do something real stupid like try
    to arrest you. That would be kidnapping. Maybe the idiot will try to
    run you down and accidentally hit another car. When people get angry
    they sometimes make mistakes that you should take advantage of. Only
    cops have the right to enforce traffic laws. When I ride I only think
    of how I can sue someone and win. If someone does make me angry then
    it only increases my adrenaline and which lets me ride faster. Road
    rage improves my bicycle speed. In my old age I have enjoyed the road
    rage game because it livens up my boring commutes.

    Perhaps within all cyclists resides both an adult and a twelve
    year old.. I think it must be the twelve year olds we are reading in those
    posts advocating vandalism of cars or intentionally provoking rage from
    their drivers, because a squared away adult would surely handle these
    situations in a more appropriate way. From the cyclist's standpoint
    survival of the fittest isn't exactly the best way to solve hostile car /
    bike interactions.

    Maybe a short meditation would be good before getting on the bike.

    Jon Meinecke's post on this thread seems to be in the right spirit. I
    suggest reading it again.

  18. "Eric Jorgensen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:20041126094033.44919701@wafer...
    : On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:18:03 -0600
    : "harv" <harv*don't*send*spam*to [email hidden]> wrote:
    :
    :
    : > bumper to bumper traffic and run me into the parked cars. I tried to
    : > Joshua her passenger side rear view and she stopped and started swearing
    :
    :
    : Joshua? unfamiliar with this term.

    Maybe it has something to do with "Joshua fit the battle of Jericho"....

    Pat in TX

  19. "Pat" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    :
    : > bumper to bumper traffic and run me into the parked cars. I tried to
    : > Joshua her passenger side rear view and she stopped and started swearing
    :
    :
    : Joshua? unfamiliar with this term.

    Maybe it has something to do with "Joshua fit the battle of Jericho"....

    It's pronounced "Joshua kicked the mirror off Jerry's car"...

  20. "MasterBlaster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:K3Zpd.194229$df2.193900@edtnps89...

    Quoted message said:


    "Pat" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    :
    : > bumper to bumper traffic and run me into the parked cars. I tried to
    : > Joshua her passenger side rear view and she stopped and started
    swearing
    :
    :
    : Joshua? unfamiliar with this term.

    Maybe it has something to do with "Joshua fit the battle of Jericho"....

    It's pronounced "Joshua kicked the mirror off Jerry's car"...

    If you've been here a while you would have read about the exploits of our
    bent friend from the wilds of Toronto...here's a quote from this thread, in
    fact.

    <<In my old age I have toned down my rage against car drivers, I no longer
    use
    my shoe and kick the driver side mirror off their car, have stopped using
    the Awl I carried to scratch a line bumper to bumper and I no longer use my
    (apparently useless) Kryptonite lock to bash out tail lights....although all
    of the above did make my daily commute more enjoyable taking out my contempt
    on cars and big honking SUVs, I found the Big Smile works just as well.

    Joshua
    ******>>

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