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  1. My 4 year old daughter has been watching my attempts to ride the coker
    and wants to learn to ride a unicycle herself. I have convinced her
    that both the coker and the 24 are too big for her and am looking for a
    more suitable wheel for her to learn on. The choice of unicycles in
    South Africa is currently nonexistant, and the ones we DO get are pretty
    terrible quality so I'm thinking of buying her one online. I won't be
    able to test drive it and sending it back if there are any problems will
    be difficult so I'm asking for your help.

    She is about 41 inches tall (104 cm) and her inseam is 17 inches (43 cm)
    with shoes. She weighs about 34 pounds (15.5kg). When I punch these
    into the "what unicycle do you need" option at unicycle.com I get the
    following suggestions : The Sun 12-inch chrome (US$55) or the Miyata
    14-inch standard (US$190).

    If I go and look at their 16 inch unicycles I have the choice of The
    Jugglebug in red (US$84), the Miyata standard (US$193), the Sun in red
    or chrome (US$55), the Torker Unistar CX (US$65) and the United in
    chrome (US$64.95).

    What do you recommend? What unicycle did your kids learn on? Would she
    be big enough for a 16 inch wheel (which will probably last her longer)?
    I'd also like suggestions on a good (and comfortable) seat for her. I
    have spent a lot of time taking care of this little bottom and WILL be
    called on to kiss it better if it gets hurt.

    Thanks

    Jayne (and Jacqueline)

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  2. i learned on a savage 12" when i was 4 or 5. cheap, but pretty hard to
    break when you're that young. im guessing your daughter wont be doing
    any 6 foot drops yet...

    -Grant

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  3. Jayne, are you sure you want to start limiting her social options at
    such an early age?

    Raphael Lasar
    Matawan, NJ

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  4. tennisgh22 said:

    *im guessing your daughter wont be doing any 6 foot drops yet...*

    Don't count on it - she is quite the little daredevil! I was exactly
    the same at her age, sadly I seem to have grown out of it. 🙁

    JJuggle said:

    *Jayne, are you sure you want to start limiting her social options at
    such an early age? *

    Limiting? Since when does unicycling LIMIT one's social options? I've
    met some of the most interesting people I know through unicycling.

    SO - any USEFUL suggestions - like what UNICYCLE I should be buying her?
    I could get comments like this from the guys at work. They all want to
    know why I'm not teaching her to ride a bike first! 🙄

    Jayne

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  5. coker!

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  6. Based on no knowledge at all, I would suggest a jugglebug. They are
    plastic and I'm guessing that it weighs less than the other options.
    The shipping should be less if you're shipping all the way from the U.S.
    and at 4, she could probably do the 6 foot drops without damaging the
    unicycle.

    Then again, I'm waiting to be proven wrong.

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  7. Get the cheapest one you can get your hands on. She'll outgrow it before
    she breaks it.

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  8. I'd suggest getting the Torker as it comes with a 36 spoke wheel for
    only $10 more. Then once YOU master the Coker, you'll have a light duty
    freestyle/trials uni for yourself 😄 😉

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  9. I got the 12" Sun for my 3 year old daughter. They make the neck tube
    the same length as the larger wheel Sun Uni's. So I had to remove the
    seat post from the seat tube and cut it down. It has a permanently
    mounted seat post clamp so I had to replace it. I also drilled a hole
    in the seat tube about the same distance down the seat tube as the
    original pinch gap(don't know what it is really called) was. It allows
    the seat clamp to pinch the seat tube against the seat post. I then
    used a piece of masking tape and drew a line as a guide for the split.
    I used a dremmel tool to create the new pinch gap. I also cut down the
    seat post so it would go down short enough to allow her little legs to
    reach the pedals.

    To cut the seat tube and seat post I used a cheap pipe cutter. I think
    it was about $3-4 dollars. THis whole process took about 20 minutes.

    The sun 12" is plenty strong for any kid that could ride it. I have
    ridden it and am plenty happy with the quality. I can't believe anyone
    would buy the Miata for $190 for a 3-4 Year old. I am sure someone has,
    but it seems a little pricey. If you have any questions or need
    pictures, I could snap some. I was supposed to have done that already
    for someone else as I recall. So I may do that tonight anyway, and post
    them in my gallery.

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  10. I'm not sure if this is uselessly vague, but when I was in Johanasburg
    last September I saw a basic 16" uni in stock in a bike shop, in a large
    mall out side of town. I don't know if there are several such malls,
    but this one was pretty big. So you may be able to find one
    locally...

    Hope that helps!

    - Sam

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  11. May I suggest the Torker Unistar CX (US$65) because it looks like the
    seat would go down the farthest. The red Jugglebug's seat post tube is
    longer. You might have to modify it just as bugman had to do for his
    daughter. (Hey bugman, is she riding yet?)

    A small unicyle is not useless when a child grows out of it. You can
    always put a longer seat post on it and even an adult can ride it. The
    red plastic mag wheel on the Jugglebug might not stand up to that. As
    long as you're spending the money, get something that will last.

    My son did learn on the little red 16" when he was five but moved up
    very quickly to a 20".

    During beginner class at our club, we end up putting the littlest kids
    on the two 16" XL Semcycles we have and the kids a little taller on the
    red ones just because the seat will not go down as far.

    Good Luck,
    Kathy

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  12. redwelly said:

    *So you may be able to find one locally...*

    Just so you know I'm not addicted to internet shopping, I have been
    trying to source a wheel locally since about December last year. It's
    one of the reasons I'm learning on the coker. None of the local shops
    have any in stock (I've called them ALL). A guy at the club managed to
    pick up a 20 in Pretoria, the last one they had, and last week he
    regaled us with the story of just how much work he'd had to put into the
    wheel within one week or so of purchase due to component failure.

    My little girl is very precious. I'd rather spend a bit more (not
    necessarily Miyata prices) and be confident that what she's riding won't
    self-destruct before she's learned how to ride. I'd like it to be able
    to grow with her, and was already thinking of adding a longer seatpost
    later so I can get to ride it too.

    Thanks for all the suggestions - keep em coming. Once I have a nice
    selection I'm going to contact ALL the unicycle.com branches to see
    which one works out cheapest once shipping is added in.

    Jayne

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  13. I can't imagine a 4 year old will destroy anything, cept maybe a seat.
    And I sorta doubt that. Getting pink is more important than the quality
    probably.

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  14. redwelly said:

    *I saw a basic 16" uni in stock in a bike shop, in a large mall out
    side of town. *

    I just found out, it was Eastgate Shopping Centre...

    - Sam

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  15. redwelly said:

    *... when I was in Johanasburg last September I saw a basic 16" uni in
    stock in a bike shop *


    u were in johannesburg in september and u didn't let me buy u a beer?
    what kind of antisocial unicyclist are u anyway?!?😠

    coming out again anytime soon?
    🙂

    jayne, u know i know as much about these uni's as u do
    i've just read so much good stuff about the Torkers as solid, beginners
    unicycles, i can't help but think that must also apply to the 16

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  16. GILD said:

    *jayne, u know i know as much about these uni's as u do
    i've just read so much good stuff about the Torkers as solid,
    beginners unicycles, i can't help but think that must also apply to
    the 16 *

    I know. I just wanted a bit of input from people who've actually put
    their kids on the things. At least if the wheel is sound I can put a
    really long seat post on and ride it myself when I want a break from the
    coker. Now I need to decide if the seat it comes with is OK or if I
    should get a better one. Any bets on which of us will be riding
    first?

    redwelly said:

    *I just found out, it was Eastgate Shopping Centre... *

    I go past Eastgate all the time. I don't think I've ever seen a bike
    shop there. Are you sure you're not thinking about the Park Meadows
    Shopping Centre, it's just across the road and has a pretty nice bike
    shop (Cajee's Cycle Corner if memory serves me correctly).

    Jayne

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  17. The seat that comes on the Torker should do well since there won't ge
    any "distance" riding on it immediately. Since you are going to have to
    pay shipping charges anyway, I would suggest ordering a KH saddle to go
    along with it. That way you'll have a quality saddle to use on your
    Coker when you start racking up the miles 😄

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  18. Rayden said:

    *Getting pink is more important than the quality probably. *

    Why not have both?

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  19. Krashin'Kenny said:

    *The seat that comes on the Torker should do well since there won't ge
    any "distance" riding on it immediately. Since you are going to have
    to pay shipping charges anyway, I would suggest ordering a KH saddle
    to go along with it. That way you'll have a quality saddle to use on
    your Coker when you start racking up the miles 😄 *

    AAAH - but I ALREADY HAVE a KH saddle on the Coker (I know this because
    I called the previous owner and asked him as everybody LOVES the
    saddle). The guy I bought it from did the Argus cycle race on it and it
    has already racked up a good few miles. Ignore what everybody says
    about using a disposable saddle while learning. A nice comfy seat makes
    learning that little bit less painful. 😉

    I'm actually waiting on a quote from the local Coker dealers for a
    replacement tyre and tube. If it comes out more expensive than the
    unicycle.com price I might just include them in with the unicycle order.
    I'll also ask round the club in case anybody wants to include a few
    "small" items in the box. Why waste international postage if you don't
    have to?

    Jayne

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  20. Jayne ZA said:

    *AAAH - but I ALREADY HAVE a KH saddle on the Coker *


    no, u dont
    u have a homemade airseat
    a very comfy homemade airseat (and much neater than my ducttape special)
    but it's not a KHJayne ZA wrote:*I'll also ask round the club in case

    Quoted message said:

    anybody wants to include a few "small" items in the box*


    good call, i'm in for a new seat post and may just get a decent seat if
    there's a 'big brown truck' flying over

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