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GOML ~ The Carn Deargs

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  1. I have just got my ISDN line fixed after 14 days so here is last Saturday's TR ( 17 Jan ). Headed
    off to Glen Roy on very slidy, icy snowy roads and parked up at the head of the Glen about 8:30 pm.
    The parallel roads were superbly picked out by the deep snow cover and really highlighted the effect
    the water and ice had millions of years ago. We started walking towards the Corbett twins, Carn
    Dearg and Carn Dearg, and we were politely confronted by a gamekeeper on a quad bike. His opening
    gambit was a very nice " Can I help you ? " to which an equally polite " No thanks, just heading up
    towards The Carn Deargs " was met with a semi lecture, discussion on the disturbance we were about
    to cause to the deer population. I confirmed there was no stalking planned that day and got the
    response that the stalking was irrelevant, it was the disturbance to the deer that mattered and that
    a wild deer could very possibly die by seeing two walkers approaching. I again responded politely
    that we would stick to the ridges, and also that I would expect the deer to be below the snowline in
    the current conditions. The GOML then suggested that there were plenty of other hills near Fort
    William that we could climb and that we must not traumatise the deer. I do think a deer would be
    more traumatised by a high velocity bullet through the heart than the sight of myself and partner
    approaching ! In the end we agreed to differ, the GOML putted off on his quad in disgust and we set
    off back up the glen. to be fair to the chap on the bike he was polite at all times and never really
    asked us to leave his land, just strongly suggested we might go elsewhere.

    The track up the glen was clear to the junction of the streams and then we were in deep powder snow.
    we decided to take the flank of the hill head on instead of heading to the bealach and soon reached
    the high level plateau style ridge. The summit was jut under 1.5 k to the North East but the snow
    was over knee deep and the peat hags and snow cover were reminiscent of the glaciers and crevasses
    in " Touching The Void". the 1.5k took us over 1.5 hours of sharing the lead in knee to waist deep
    powder snow. several falls took us actually under the snow level ~ brilliant stuff and a great
    laugh. Got the first summit and headed for Carn Dearg the second ! the snow was easier on descent
    but the broad col again became an epic battle in waist deep powder. Pulling together the last of the
    energy we actually made good time up the North West flank of CD2 as the snow was both shallower and
    firmer. the summit area was simply stunning in deep blue sky, brilliant white snow and absolute
    silence. The views over Ardgour to Rum, Skye, The Mamores etc were off the highest calibre with
    fantastically clear air giving miles and miles of visibility.

    The descent was made by taking a bearing direct for the car and setting off down the South West
    flank and in minutes we were back into waist deep powder. On the descent we were pulled into the
    river bed and dropped some 30 feet into the gorge. this was fantastic with huge cornices overhanging
    the frozen river bed. we decided to follow the gorge as far as possible and it was a great decision.
    It was like battling down some massive arctic canyon. It all finished too soon as we crossed the
    parallel roads and came back below the snowline and headed for the car. we half expected to find the
    wheels clamped or tyres flat but no such disaster struck.

    This must go down as one of my best winter days ever. Looking forward now to returning to Glen Roy
    for the remaining Card Dearg and the Corbett opposite.
    --
    Cheers
    Graham

    "Where the eagles cry, On a mountain high"

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  2. Graham Ingram said:

    thanks, just heading up towards The Carn Deargs " was met with a semi lecture, discussion on the
    disturbance we were about to cause to the deer population. I confirmed there was no stalking
    planned that day and got the response that the stalking was irrelevant, it was the disturbance to
    the deer that mattered and that a wild deer could very possibly die by seeing two walkers
    approaching.

    One could say that a few more dead deer is a good thing as there are too many of them anyway! It
    makes you wonder how they conduct their cull. Do they creep up and shout boo! at them?
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  3. Quoted message said:

    One could say that a few more dead deer is a good thing as there are too many of them anyway! It
    makes you wonder how they conduct their cull. Do they creep up and shout boo! at them?
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

    Given the increased popularity of the hills, and the non munro hills in particular, there should be
    no deer left if they are so naish.

    Congrats in standing firm.

    Richard Webb

  4. Phil Cook wrote

    Quoted message said:

    One could say that a few more dead deer is a good thing as there are too many of It makes you
    wonder how they conduct their cull. Do they creep up and shout boo! at them?

    It might give them a hart attack !

    Nice TR, Graham. Not jealous at all. Ooh no :-( You didn't manage to get to the natural
    bridge then ?

    PS. If this post appears twice it's because I originally sent it through NTL but NTL NNTP Post
    appears to have stopped completely so I have resent it through Google. Grrrr.

    Chris
    --
    Cressbrook on the web cressbrook.netcressbrook.net

  5. "Phil Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Graham Ingram said:

    thanks, just heading up towards The Carn Deargs " was met with a semi lecture, discussion on the
    disturbance we were about to cause to the deer population. I confirmed there was no stalking
    planned that day and got the response that the stalking was irrelevant, it was the disturbance to
    the deer that mattered and that a wild deer could very possibly die by seeing two walkers
    approaching.

    One could say that a few more dead deer is a good thing as there are too


    many of

    Quoted message said:

    them anyway! It makes you wonder how they conduct their cull. Do they


    creep up

    Quoted message said:

    and shout boo! at them?

    I'm sure being shot at by some fat greasy plutocrat is a much nicer way of dying than a heart attack
    induced by over-loud Goretex.

    --

    Bernie Get back on the wagon to reply..

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, graham.

    (Graham Ingram) said:

    We started walking towards the Corbett twins, Carn Dearg and Carn Dearg, and we were politely
    confronted by a gamekeeper on a quad bike. His opening gambit was a very nice " Can I help you ? "
    to which an equally polite " No thanks, just heading up towards The Carn Deargs " was met with a
    semi lecture, discussion on the disturbance we were about to cause to the deer population.


    Interesting. I remember passing the sign warning of deer stalking and decided it was permanent. jut
    after the bridge I passed a your 'keeper' who was feeding the sheep. I gave him a friendly wave and
    he gave a friendly wave and smile back! No problem at all. your experience is puzzling!

    thanks, Rob

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