Golden (?) pineapple

Nancy Young said:

That new variety seems to be taking over the usual
pineapple. I HATE IT, I cannot stand it, I wish it
would all die. Tastes like [censored].

Sorry, I had to vent. Thank you for listening.

nancy

Try one from Del Monte. (All the others are just copycats and are not
as good)

Best regards,
Bob

Nancy Young wrote on 08 Jul 2005 in rec.food.cooking

Quoted message said:

That new variety seems to be taking over the usual
pineapple. I HATE IT, I cannot stand it, I wish it
would all die. Tastes like [censored].

Sorry, I had to vent. Thank you for listening.

nancy

try it on the grill...with a rum and butter sauce...
Equal parts rum, butter and brown sugar.

Then Rant....

--
It's not a question of where he grips it!
It's a simple question of weight ratios!

A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

zxcvbob said:

Nancy Young said:

That new variety seems to be taking over the usual
pineapple. I HATE IT, I cannot stand it, I wish it
would all die. Tastes like [censored].

Sorry, I had to vent. Thank you for listening.

nancy

Try one from Del Monte. (All the others are just copycats and are not
as good)

Best regards,
Bob

I don't know about now, but pineapple from Del Monte used to come from
Thailand (as opposed to Hawaii). It was much sweeter and juicier than the
Dole pineapples.

Jill

"jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

zxcvbob said:

Nancy Young said:

That new variety seems to be taking over the usual
pineapple. I HATE IT, I cannot stand it, I wish it
would all die. Tastes like [censored].

Sorry, I had to vent. Thank you for listening.

nancy

Try one from Del Monte. (All the others are just copycats and are not
as good)

Best regards,
Bob

I don't know about now, but pineapple from Del Monte used to come from
Thailand (as opposed to Hawaii). It was much sweeter and juicier than the
Dole pineapples.

Jill

Unless of course you go to the Dole plantation.
Pineapple is one of my favorite foods. I love it when it's really good,
sweet and juicy. When we went to Oahu, we had the opportunity to stop by the
Dole plantation and sample some different varieties of pineapple. Wow. Each
one was as good as the next. They also have a little cafe/souvenir spot,
which had some of the most delicious pineapple I've ever eaten. Pineapple on
a stick, pineapple sundaes, pineapple whip, chocolate covered
pineapple...you name it, it was there. Add to that all the roadside stands
where you could stop and they'd use a machete to peel, clore and slice the
pineapple while you wait, and you can imagine all the pineapple I had during
the time we were on the island.

The unfortunate side effect: I've yet to taste a pineapple here that tastes
as good as they did there.

kimberly

Quoted message said:

jmcquown said:

zxcvbob said:

Nancy Young said:

That new variety seems to be taking over the usual
pineapple. I HATE IT, I cannot stand it, I wish it
would all die. Tastes like [censored].

Sorry, I had to vent. Thank you for listening.

nancy

Try one from Del Monte. (All the others are just copycats and are not
as good)

Best regards,
Bob

I don't know about now, but pineapple from Del Monte used to come from
Thailand (as opposed to Hawaii). It was much sweeter and juicier than the
Dole pineapples.

Pineapple, a bromiliad, is grown in many parts, Philapines, Mexico,
Central America, etc., and there are a few different types of
Pineapple. The various company's whose labels are found on pineapple,
even Chiquita, contract with and/or own plantations all around the
planet. The vast majority of Hawiian pineapple is exported canned, not
fresh. Ripe pineapple does not ship very well so for export it is
picked well before fully ripe... and once picked pinapple does NOT
ripen further. Very, very few folks on the US mainland have ever
tasted a fully ripened pineapple, except from a can. Btw, pineapple is
native to Central America, there were no pineapples growing in Hawaii,
or anywhere else, since relatively recently. Once picked pineapple
softens, but from fermentation (rotting), NOT ripening. Stand your
stupidmarket pineapple upside down, leaves down, for a couple of days
before opening to redistribute the sugars, however little there is
contained in a prematurely harvested pineapple. Btw, pineapple is
considered the world's largest berry.

Sheldon

Nexis said:

"jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

zxcvbob said:

Nancy Young wrote:

> That new variety seems to be taking over the usual
> pineapple. I HATE IT, I cannot stand it, I wish it
> would all die. Tastes like [censored].
>
> Sorry, I had to vent. Thank you for listening.
>
> nancy
>
>

Try one from Del Monte. (All the others are just copycats and are not
as good)

Best regards,
Bob

I don't know about now, but pineapple from Del Monte used to come from
Thailand (as opposed to Hawaii). It was much sweeter and juicier than the
Dole pineapples.

Jill

Unless of course you go to the Dole plantation.
Pineapple is one of my favorite foods. I love it when it's really good,
sweet and juicy. When we went to Oahu, we had the opportunity to stop by the
Dole plantation and sample some different varieties of pineapple. Wow. Each
one was as good as the next. They also have a little cafe/souvenir spot,
which had some of the most delicious pineapple I've ever eaten. Pineapple on
a stick, pineapple sundaes, pineapple whip, chocolate covered
pineapple...you name it, it was there. Add to that all the roadside stands
where you could stop and they'd use a machete to peel, clore and slice the
pineapple while you wait, and you can imagine all the pineapple I had during
the time we were on the island.

The unfortunate side effect: I've yet to taste a pineapple here that tastes
as good as they did there.

See my previous post.

Sheldon

Sheldumb said:

Pineapple, a bromiliad, is grown in many parts, Philapines, Mexico,
Central America, etc., and there are a few different types of
Pineapple. The various company's whose labels are found on pineapple,
even Chiquita, contract with and/or own plantations all around the
planet. The vast majority of Hawiian pineapple is exported canned, not
fresh. Ripe pineapple does not ship very well so for export it is
picked well before fully ripe... and once picked pinapple does NOT
ripen further. Very, very few folks on the US mainland have ever
tasted a fully ripened pineapple, except from a can. Btw, pineapple is
native to Central America, there were no pineapples growing in Hawaii,
or anywhere else, since relatively recently. Once picked pineapple
softens, but from fermentation (rotting), NOT ripening. Stand your
stupidmarket pineapple upside down, leaves down, for a couple of days
before opening to redistribute the sugars, however little there is
contained in a prematurely harvested pineapple. Btw, pineapple is
considered the world's largest berry.

I see you don't own a spell-checker OR a brain. Here, let me point out some
of your stupidity:

Quoted message said:

Pineapple, a bromiliad,

That should be "bromeliad," you ignoramus!

Quoted message said:

is grown in many parts, Philapines,

That should be "Philippines," you ignoramus!

Quoted message said:

there are a few different types of Pineapple

No need to capitalize "pineapple," you ignoramus!

Quoted message said:

The various company's

That should be "companies," you ignoramus!

Quoted message said:

fully ripe... and once

Hey, what's the ellipsis for, ignoramus? Did you leave something out? Or is
it just that you don't understand elementary punctuation? (Shades of
another discussion!)

Quoted message said:

and once picked pinapple does NOT ripen further

"Pinapple?" You're a pinHEAD! Oh, and there should have been a comma after
the word "picked," you ignoramus!

Quoted message said:

Btw, pineapple is considered the world's largest berry.

Only by ignoramuses who mistakenly think that pineapple *is* a berry.
And -- more fool you -- even if pineapples *were* berries, they wouldn't be
the world's largest. From Encarta:

There are several different types of berries. A true berry has a
relatively soft pericarp with a thin exocarp or skin. Examples of true
berries include the tomato, pepper, eggplant, grape, and persimmon. A pepo
is a berry with a comparatively thick exocarp, or rind — cantaloupe,
watermelon, pumpkin, cucumber, and squash are pepos. A hesperidium is a
berry with a leathery skin containing oils. All citrus fruits, including
oranges, lemons, and grapefruits, are hesperidiums. Some fruits with the
word berry in their names, such as raspberry and strawberry, develop
differently and are not really berries at all.

Since pineapples are smaller than both pumpkins and watermelons, I guess
your claim is wrong. But what should anybody expect from an ignoramus like
you?

Bob

"Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Sheldumb said:

Pineapple, a bromiliad, is grown in many parts, Philapines, Mexico,
Central America, etc., and there are a few different types of
Pineapple. The various company's whose labels are found on pineapple,
even Chiquita, contract with and/or own plantations all around the
planet. The vast majority of Hawiian pineapple is exported canned, not
fresh. Ripe pineapple does not ship very well so for export it is
picked well before fully ripe... and once picked pinapple does NOT
ripen further. Very, very few folks on the US mainland have ever
tasted a fully ripened pineapple, except from a can. Btw, pineapple is
native to Central America, there were no pineapples growing in Hawaii,
or anywhere else, since relatively recently. Once picked pineapple
softens, but from fermentation (rotting), NOT ripening. Stand your
stupidmarket pineapple upside down, leaves down, for a couple of days
before opening to redistribute the sugars, however little there is
contained in a prematurely harvested pineapple. Btw, pineapple is
considered the world's largest berry.

I see you don't own a spell-checker OR a brain. Here, let me point out
some
of your stupidity:

Quoted message said:

Pineapple, a bromiliad,

That should be "bromeliad," you ignoramus!

Quoted message said:

is grown in many parts, Philapines,

That should be "Philippines," you ignoramus!

Quoted message said:

there are a few different types of Pineapple

No need to capitalize "pineapple," you ignoramus!

Quoted message said:

The various company's

That should be "companies," you ignoramus!

Quoted message said:

fully ripe... and once

Hey, what's the ellipsis for, ignoramus? Did you leave something out? Or
is
it just that you don't understand elementary punctuation? (Shades of
another discussion!)

Quoted message said:

and once picked pinapple does NOT ripen further

"Pinapple?" You're a pinHEAD! Oh, and there should have been a comma
after
the word "picked," you ignoramus!

Quoted message said:

Btw, pineapple is considered the world's largest berry.

Only by ignoramuses who mistakenly think that pineapple *is* a berry.
And -- more fool you -- even if pineapples *were* berries, they wouldn't
be
the world's largest. From Encarta:

There are several different types of berries. A true berry has a
relatively soft pericarp with a thin exocarp or skin. Examples of true
berries include the tomato, pepper, eggplant, grape, and persimmon. A
pepo
is a berry with a comparatively thick exocarp, or rind - cantaloupe,
watermelon, pumpkin, cucumber, and squash are pepos. A hesperidium is a
berry with a leathery skin containing oils. All citrus fruits, including
oranges, lemons, and grapefruits, are hesperidiums. Some fruits with the
word berry in their names, such as raspberry and strawberry, develop
differently and are not really berries at all.

Since pineapples are smaller than both pumpkins and watermelons, I guess
your claim is wrong. But what should anybody expect from an ignoramus like
you?

Bob

Actually, it's YOU who is mistaken, Bob. Pineapples ARE berries. In fact,
one pineapple fruit consists of aggregate berries embedded in a fleshy stem
(what you would call the core). It is the largest aggregate berry. Your
entire post is just ridiculous and pointless. Carry out your private battles
in private. How old are you? I ask because you sound like you're about 7 or
8. There's enough toxic [censored] in the world without this immature B.S.

kimberly

Quoted message said:

Kimberly nit-picked:

Quoted message said:

Actually, it's YOU who is mistaken, Bob. Pineapples ARE berries. In fact,
one pineapple fruit consists of aggregate berries embedded in a fleshy
stem (what you would call the core). It is the largest aggregate berry.
Your entire post is just ridiculous and pointless. Carry out your private
battles in private. How old are you? I ask because you sound like you're
about 7 or 8. There's enough toxic [censored] in the world without this immature
B.S.

Can you show any reference to support your statement that pineapples are
berries? Googling "world's largest berry" results in either kiwi (as a true
berry) or watermelon (as mentioned in the Encarta article I quoted). So
where are you getting YOUR information?

Regardless, as I mentioned, pineapples are smaller than watermelons, so
Sheldon's statement that pineapples are the world's largest berries is STILL
wrong.

Oh, and thanks for contributing to what you call the "toxic [censored]," you
hypocrite. Your entire existence is ridiculous and pointless.

Bob

Nancy Young said:

That new variety seems to be taking over the usual
pineapple. I HATE IT, I cannot stand it, I wish it
would all die. Tastes like [censored].

Sorry, I had to vent. Thank you for listening.

nancy

Sweet and juicy. What's not to like?

gloria p

Sheldumb was STILL ignorant:

Quoted message said:

Watermelons are NOT berries, neither are pumpkins, or any of the fruits
you mentioned, in fact botanists specifically classify them as "false
berries", which of course a functionally illiterate [censored] such as
yourself read but was unable to comprehend... saw the word 'berry' and
stopped thinking, not that you have with what to think... didja know, a
pumpkin has a higher IQ than you.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/f/fa/false_berry.htm

Hey ignoramus, did you bother to read the Encarta article I posted? Maybe
you ought to get a fifth-grader to explain it to you. The article clearly
made the distinction between so-called "true" berries and pepos, which are
what you call "false" berries. Pineapples fall into NEITHER group. The
largest "true" berry is a kiwi. And while watermelons are classified as
"false" berries, they're still in a group which is CALLED "berries." I just
wanted to make that clear, in case you were thinking (in your typical
mistaken fashion) that pineapples were *also* in some less formal group of
berries. But pineapples aren't berries of any kind, false OR true. Wow, I
bet your face is RED!

Quoted message said:

The pineapple is most definitely classified as a berry, a syncarpous
berry but a berry nevertheless. The pineapple is considered the
largest berry, can easily top 20 pounds.

http://www.uga.edu/fruit/pinapple.htm

Ignoramus, when you post a link which is supposed to support your argument,
maybe the page ought to say something which *does* support your argument.
The link you posted doesn't say that the pineapple is ANY kind of berry! You
might as well have posted a link to the Chuckle of the Day. In fact, I
*did* get a chuckle out of this passage from your link:

"Cultivated pineapple has gone through an astoundingly narrow genetic
bottleneck"

It appears that you and pineapple have something in common! (I mean BESIDES
the lack of a brain or spine. And when it comes to functioning sex organs,
pineapples have you BEATEN.)

What claim are you going to make next? That the largest berry is a Great
Blue Whale?

Bob

"Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Sheldumb was STILL ignorant:

Quoted message said:

Watermelons are NOT berries, neither are pumpkins, or any of the fruits
you mentioned, in fact botanists specifically classify them as "false
berries", which of course a functionally illiterate [censored] such as
yourself read but was unable to comprehend... saw the word 'berry' and
stopped thinking, not that you have with what to think... didja know, a
pumpkin has a higher IQ than you.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/f/fa/false_berry.htm

Hey ignoramus, did you bother to read the Encarta article I posted? Maybe
you ought to get a fifth-grader to explain it to you. The article clearly
made the distinction between so-called "true" berries and pepos, which are
what you call "false" berries. Pineapples fall into NEITHER group. The
largest "true" berry is a kiwi. And while watermelons are classified as
"false" berries, they're still in a group which is CALLED "berries." I
just
wanted to make that clear, in case you were thinking (in your typical
mistaken fashion) that pineapples were *also* in some less formal group of
berries. But pineapples aren't berries of any kind, false OR true. Wow, I
bet your face is RED!

Quoted message said:

The pineapple is most definitely classified as a berry, a syncarpous
berry but a berry nevertheless. The pineapple is considered the
largest berry, can easily top 20 pounds.

http://www.uga.edu/fruit/pinapple.htm

Ignoramus, when you post a link which is supposed to support your
argument,
maybe the page ought to say something which *does* support your argument.
The link you posted doesn't say that the pineapple is ANY kind of berry!
You
might as well have posted a link to the Chuckle of the Day. In fact, I
*did* get a chuckle out of this passage from your link:

"Cultivated pineapple has gone through an astoundingly narrow genetic
bottleneck"

It appears that you and pineapple have something in common! (I mean
BESIDES
the lack of a brain or spine. And when it comes to functioning sex
organs,
pineapples have you BEATEN.)

What claim are you going to make next? That the largest berry is a Great
Blue Whale?

Bob

The page linked to DOES state:
"The fruit type is a multiple of berries, formed from the fusion of
adjacent flowers on the spike, and development of ovaries into the fleshy,
edible portion."

Next time you get on your trusty Google, look up "What fruit is a cylinder
of berries?" By Chelsie Vandaveer. This article also clearly states: "The
pineapple inflorescence is a raceme of single flowers arranged tightly along
the stem. It is an aggregate fruit consisting of fleshy berries fused
together, one berry from each flower."

And from the UCLA website (that's a University, Bob, where they teach things
such as this): " The ovary of each becomes a berry that normally lacks seeds
because the flowers are not cross-pollinated; therefore, each of the
polygonal units of the pineapple is a ripened ovary, and the berries
coalesce into a solid structure, called a multiple fruit"

Are you noticing a trend here, Bob?

kimberly

Bob said:

Kimberly nit-picked:

Quoted message said:

Actually, it's YOU who is mistaken, Bob. Pineapples ARE berries. In fact,
one pineapple fruit consists of aggregate berries embedded in a fleshy
stem (what you would call the core). It is the largest aggregate berry.
Your entire post is just ridiculous and pointless. Carry out your private
battles in private. How old are you? I ask because you sound like you're
about 7 or 8. There's enough toxic [censored] in the world without this immature
B.S.

Can you show any reference to support your statement that pineapples are
berries? Googling "world's largest berry" results in either kiwi (as a true
berry) or watermelon (as mentioned in the Encarta article I quoted). So
where are you getting YOUR information?

Various trivia sites claim this, so it's not stupid to think it's the
case.
http://www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/botanytextbooks/economicbotany/Ananas/
this mentions a cluster of berries.

Quoted message said:

Regardless, as I mentioned, pineapples are smaller than watermelons, so
Sheldon's statement that pineapples are the world's largest berries is STILL
wrong.

Oh, and thanks for contributing to what you call the "toxic [censored]," you
hypocrite. Your entire existence is ridiculous and pointless.

Please go way, I don't know about your existence but your posts are
pathetic - spelling flames? How low can you go? Do you enjoy haranguing
people so they become afraid to post?

Doug
--
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A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk

Doug said:

Please go way, I don't know about your existence but your posts are
pathetic - spelling flames? How low can you go? Do you enjoy haranguing
people so they become afraid to post?

Only Sheldon, replying to him in the fashion he chooses to reply to others.
While making Sheldon afraid to post isn't my GOAL, it sure would make Usenet
a better place.

Bob

Kimberly said:

The page linked to DOES state:
"The fruit type is a multiple of berries, formed from the fusion of
adjacent flowers on the spike, and development of ovaries into the fleshy,
edible portion."

Well, I'll be damned. Dunno why my "Find text on this page" didn't find
that.

I stand corrected, but now I'll make a nitpick of my own: If a pineapple is
a CLUSTER of berries then a single pineapple isn't a single berry. (For a
similar reason, strawberries are not considered berries in the botanical
sense.) Furthermore, if the fruit doesn't contain seeds, then pineapple
fails to meet the definition of a "true" berry, which means that it couldn't
be considered the largest "true" berry. And if "false" berries are included,
pineapples are still smaller than watermelons.

But I'm willing to concede the point, since I have no animosity toward YOU.

Bob

"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

That new variety seems to be taking over the usual
pineapple. I HATE IT, I cannot stand it, I wish it
would all die. Tastes like [censored].

Sorry, I had to vent. Thank you for listening.

nancy

I think some of them are a little too sweet, but I've never had a bad
one. What don't you like about them?

Nexis said:

"Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Sheldumb was STILL ignorant:

Quoted message said:

Watermelons are NOT berries, neither are pumpkins, or any of the fruits
you mentioned, in fact botanists specifically classify them as "false
berries", which of course a functionally illiterate [censored] such as
yourself read but was unable to comprehend... saw the word 'berry' and
stopped thinking, not that you have with what to think... didja know, a
pumpkin has a higher IQ than you.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/f/fa/false_berry.htm

Hey ignoramus, did you bother to read the Encarta article I posted? Maybe
you ought to get a fifth-grader to explain it to you. The article clearly
made the distinction between so-called "true" berries and pepos, which are
what you call "false" berries. Pineapples fall into NEITHER group. The
largest "true" berry is a kiwi. And while watermelons are classified as
"false" berries, they're still in a group which is CALLED "berries." I
just
wanted to make that clear, in case you were thinking (in your typical
mistaken fashion) that pineapples were *also* in some less formal group of
berries. But pineapples aren't berries of any kind, false OR true. Wow, I
bet your face is RED!

Quoted message said:

The pineapple is most definitely classified as a berry, a syncarpous
berry but a berry nevertheless. The pineapple is considered the
largest berry, can easily top 20 pounds.

http://www.uga.edu/fruit/pinapple.htm

Ignoramus, when you post a link which is supposed to support your
argument,
maybe the page ought to say something which *does* support your argument.
The link you posted doesn't say that the pineapple is ANY kind of berry!
You
might as well have posted a link to the Chuckle of the Day. In fact, I
*did* get a chuckle out of this passage from your link:

"Cultivated pineapple has gone through an astoundingly narrow genetic
bottleneck"

It appears that you and pineapple have something in common! (I mean
BESIDES
the lack of a brain or spine. And when it comes to functioning sex
organs,
pineapples have you BEATEN.)

What claim are you going to make next? That the largest berry is a Great
Blue Whale?

Bob

The page linked to DOES state:
"The fruit type is a multiple of berries, formed from the fusion of
adjacent flowers on the spike, and development of ovaries into the fleshy,
edible portion."

Next time you get on your trusty Google, look up "What fruit is a cylinder
of berries?" By Chelsie Vandaveer. This article also clearly states: "The
pineapple inflorescence is a raceme of single flowers arranged tightly along
the stem. It is an aggregate fruit consisting of fleshy berries fused
together, one berry from each flower."

And from the UCLA website (that's a University, Bob, where they teach things
such as this): " The ovary of each becomes a berry that normally lacks seeds
because the flowers are not cross-pollinated; therefore, each of the
polygonal units of the pineapple is a ripened ovary, and the berries
coalesce into a solid structure, called a multiple fruit"

Are you noticing a trend here, Bob?

kimberly

Thanks for the concurrence but you're really wasting your energy on the
juvenile psychotic, he's hell bent on trying to find fault where none
exists simply because he's ENVIOUS of my superiour knowlege... the
moron (who is definitely a functional illiterate, incapable of
comprehending all those strings of big woids is why he never scrolled
down far enough to find where it clearly states about
'pineapple/berries', you had to literally spoon feed the jerk with the
quote and he still can't get it) must really think I just looked that
stuff up yesterday, not... and it's certainly obvious to me that
neither did you. Bob is truly a [censored], who knows nothing about plants,
of course he knows nothing[period].

Sheldon

Bob said:

Kimberly said:

The page linked to DOES state:
"The fruit type is a multiple of berries, formed from the fusion of
adjacent flowers on the spike, and development of ovaries into the fleshy,
edible portion."

Well, I'll be damned. Dunno why my "Find text on this page" didn't find
that.

I stand corrected, but now I'll make a nitpick of my own: If a pineapple is
a CLUSTER of berries then a single pineapple isn't a single berry. (For a
similar reason, strawberries are not considered berries in the botanical
sense.) Furthermore, if the fruit doesn't contain seeds, then pineapple
fails to meet the definition of a "true" berry, which means that it couldn't
be considered the largest "true" berry. And if "false" berries are included,
pineapples are still smaller than watermelons.

But I'm willing to concede the point, since I have no animosity toward YOU.

Bob

When Del Monte Gold pineapples first came out, they had seeds in them.
(I'm not sure if they still do) My brother grew some. That's probably
how Dole and Chiquita caught up with their gold pineapples so fast.

Bob

"Sheldon wrote:

[schnip]

Quoted message said:

Btw, pineapple is
considered the world's largest berry.

Eating pineapple makes sperm taste sweeter, too...you guys out there be sure
to mention that to your gal friends ;-p

--
Best
Greg