Glucosmine vs. Chondroitin

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Do I really need all three supplements, or can I drop the chondroitin and
still achieve the same results.

Why though. I just buy G&C in a big bottle from WalMart. Gluco and Chondr are
bundled into the same pill. Do you think that chondroitin is giving some side
effect?

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Why though. I just buy G&C in a big bottle from WalMart. Gluco and Chondr

are

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bundled into the same pill. Do you think that chondroitin is giving some

side

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effect?

I am currently taking a supplement that contains all three -- Gluco, Chondr
and MSM. If I get down to a combination of only two, then the pills will
be far less costly. The MSM is necessary to avoid swelling of ligaments
and muscles from the stresses of skate-dancing.

- David

David

You may want to check out USANA They offer Procosa II Glucosamine
that is great. If you look at the company it is founded on intergrity
and backed by science. Check it out it could be what you are looking
for
www.askpam.usana.com (go to products)

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Do glucosamine and chondroitin have different

pharmacological effects? If

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so, what are they?

I am a 60-yr. old skate-dancer, and I have found that taking

a supplement of

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glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM significantly mitigates the

effects of the

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stresses that I put on my knees, hips and surrounding

ligaments and muscles.

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Do I really need all three supplements, or can I drop the

chondroitin and

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still achieve the same results.

Use all 3 for 6 months at least..beyond a year or two in me at
least the joints tend to pack up with too much cartilage or
whatever ...I can feel it.. so now I take the suppliment
maybe for 30 days a year...Im 64 and in the trades about 20
hours a week...and engineering the other 20.

and yes each has a different effect...the glucosamine builds
cartilage, the msm im not sure of, and the crondotin is a
joint lubricant.

I went from hard to walk very far 3 years ago, to no problem
now.

Phil Scott

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- David

Why increase the risk?

Facts & Figures

Prostate cancer is diagnosed every 2 1/4 minutes, over 232,000 new
cases are expected in 2005. It is the most commonly diagnosed cancer in
America among men. An estimated 30,350 American men will lose their
lives to prostate cancer this year alone, one death every 18 minutes.
That's more new cases than any other form of cancer.

Prostate cancer incidence rates increased 192 percent between 1973 and
1992.

One in six American men is at lifetime risk of prostate cancer. If a
close relative has prostate cancer, a man's risk of the disease more
than doubles. With two relatives, his risk increases fivefold. With
three close relatives, his risk is about 97%.

In the next 24 hours, prostate cancer will claim the lives of 83
American men.

Prostate cancer represents 33 percent of all new cancer cases in
American men.

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Why increase the risk?

No need to be mathematically illiterate...but if you wish.

Here is the deal, if the risk for something is say 1 in
million, and you 5x or even 10x the risk... the net risk
increase to you is mathematically irrelevent.

Those that do that spin, then ignore the fact that say
smoking for instance runs risk one in 3...now THATS
significant.

also these studies to not parse for individuals.. doing that
closely, and it takes brains, so some will be able .. you can
decide if the 3% increase is even relevant....in most cases
its not only not relevent but the bogus spin from some special
iterests, like the drug manufacturers trying to spin vitamin E
as dangerous.... and well..it is... Water too is dangerous,
if you drink more than a gallon an hour for a while you will
die from it...and thats proven.. and its true. Its just
irrelevant as applied in peoples lives.

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Facts & Figures

Prostate cancer is diagnosed every 2 1/4 minutes, over

232,000 new

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cases are expected in 2005.

Irrelevant... especially world wide...and the dumb ass report
ignores the fact that all men get prostate cancer if they live
long enough...and that most die of other causes after
diagnosed with prostate cancer... bogus spin you see...by a
bunch of slime balls trying sell thier fatal arthritis
drugs...

Getting a clue yet or are you fronting this [censored] for the drug
companies?

It is the most commonly diagnosed cancer in

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America among men. An estimated 30,350 American men will

lose their

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lives to prostate cancer this year alone, one death every 18

minutes.

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That's more new cases than any other form of cancer.

Thats false on the face of it...given over 200 million
american males in the us... a hundredeth of one percent of the
US male population...get a clooooo mon.

Those stats are *bogus...you are unable to add and subtract or
something.

Bad joints over 50 however is about 60% common... so you are
comparing the two? Ahhh hopes yer drug company employer goes
broke bud.

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Prostate cancer incidence rates increased 192 percent

between 1973 and

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1992.

Thats because men are living longer turd breath...the
numbers are still miniscule. and for that you want to trash
glucocamine use...? which I seriously doubt could be shown to
increase prostate cancer risks in such a small percentile
range with so many other factors.

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One in six American men is at lifetime risk of prostate

cancer. If a

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close relative has prostate cancer, a man's risk of the

disease more

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than doubles. With two relatives, his risk increases

fivefold. With

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three close relatives, his risk is about 97%.

oh puhleeeeze.

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In the next 24 hours, prostate cancer will claim the lives

of 83

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American men.

Thats irrelevant unless compared directly to the numbers who
will die in the next 24 hours of all causes... prostate cancer
ranks near the invisible trace levels at the bottom of the
list... and you should know that. Heart disease still ranks
first in most cases, in a hot tie with cancers of all
types...prostate is one of the most curable and minor forms of
cancer in men.

Your lies and spin waste time bud...

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Prostate cancer represents 33 percent of all new cancer

cases in

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American men.

False on the face of it.

and you have distracted from the spectacular good news of
Glucosamine and Crondotin for folks over 40.... very little or
no risks, so small as to be hard to measure.

Your drug companies VIOXX though killed 200,000
people...dead... and maimed a few million more... there is
massive evidence and billions in law suits... not a hair split
issue bud.

Your drug company buddies are headed for the tank these days,
did you know that... to survive they are trying to trash
nutritives... amazing.

Pure scum these are.

Phil Scott

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"flacey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Why increase the risk?

Facts & Figures

Prostate cancer is diagnosed every 2 1/4 minutes, over 232,000 new
cases are expected in 2005. It is the most commonly diagnosed cancer in
America among men. An estimated 30,350 American men will lose their
lives to prostate cancer this year alone, one death every 18 minutes.
That's more new cases than any other form of cancer.

Prostate cancer incidence rates increased 192 percent between 1973 and
1992.

One in six American men is at lifetime risk of prostate cancer. If a
close relative has prostate cancer, a man's risk of the disease more
than doubles. With two relatives, his risk increases fivefold. With
three close relatives, his risk is about 97%.

In the next 24 hours, prostate cancer will claim the lives of 83
American men.

Prostate cancer represents 33 percent of all new cancer cases in
American men.

Thus it is wise to have a generous vitamin D intake, 200 mcg of
selenium, rrr-alpha tocopherol succinate, other forms of
of E such as gamma, and lycopene. Keeping the estrogen
levels down should also help.

John Que wrote:
:: "flacey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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::: Prostate cancer represents 33 percent of all new cancer cases in
::: American men.
:::
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:: Thus it is wise to have a generous vitamin D intake, 200 mcg of
:: selenium, rrr-alpha tocopherol succinate, other forms of
:: of E such as gamma, and lycopene. Keeping the estrogen
:: levels down should also help.

Resveratrol in red wine helps also.

--
Juhana