Glove advice please

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Hi,

Also, while I'm here. I want to go solo wild-camping next month but have never done it before.

Can

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anybody recomend a good book or website on the subject?

I would suggest you go WITH someone who's done it before for your first ever wild camping trip. Yes
you CAN learn a fair bit from books etc, but that does not substitute for experience

Treefrog said:

Hi,

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My questions is, how do the rest of you cope? Should I take a second pair of thin gloves with me,
in which case, what gloves or at least which material would you recomend? Or are there
alternatives?

I've got caught by cold winds on top of the Pike myself, which resulted in my having a numb
patch on my thumb for a few months afterwards. The solution (as I now realise) is *never* to
take your gloves off under these conditions; the sandwiches may get a bit furry, but it's
better than frostnip.

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Also, while I'm here. I want to go solo wild-camping next month but have never done it before. Can
anybody recomend a good book or website on the subject?

I go wild-camping regularly in the Lakes (all being well, next weekend!) I'd strongly suggest,
however, waiting for better weather for your first camp; that way you're much more likely to
enjoy it. And an enjoyable wild-camp is, for me, one of the best experiences there is. There's
a good Web resource:

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and I've found Chris Townsend's "The Backpacker's Handbook" to be very good indeed (although
obviously focussed around longer trips). Mr. Townsend posts on this forum from time to time.

Hope this is useful! Mark
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Treefrog said:

My questions is, how do the rest of you cope?

Do everything with gloves on. Takes a bit of practice but you get used to it. Best to use gloves
that aren't too thick though.

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Should I take a second pair of thin gloves with me,

That's the other thing. You can get very thin inner gloves to wear inside mitts. Even though they're
thin, they allow you to touch cold metal things without freezing your fingers off. Sometimes I take
one or two gloves off if I have to do something really fiddly, but only for a moment. Try to avoid
touching cold metal things, and don't spill petrol over your skin in the cold.

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in which case, what gloves or at least which material would you recomend?

I'm using thinsulate at the moment. Used to use thin wool gloves - okay in a tent but not
windproof outside.

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Also, while I'm here. I want to go solo wild-camping next month but have never done it before.

Have you wild camped with anyone else before? This is the sort of thing that's best done in mild
weather for your first time, or at least somewhere not too far from civilisation so that if anything
does go wrong you can get back easily. I'm not suggesting a major disaster but you could make a
silly mistake like forgetting to bring any matches (I've done that once, had to walk down off the
mountain in the dark, drive 10 miles to a pub to buy a lighter, then drive 10 miles back and climb
the mountain again in the dark to get back to my tent - although luckily I wasn't camped that far
from the road).

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Thanks everybody for all your replies.

I'll invest in a second pair of thin gloves I think and practice cooking with my gloves on at home.
That's going to invite yet more strange looks I'm sure. ;o)

Whilst I'm eager to get out there and do it, I'm going to (for once) listen to peoples advice and
leave wild-camping 'till late March on a low level route with a friend.

[H]omer, I sent an email regards your offer.

Cheers everybody.

Nathan

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I'm not suggesting a major disaster but you could make a silly mistake like forgetting to bring
any matches (I've done that once,

Like forgetting the fuel bottle for the stove. Done that one as well. Luckily it was a petrol stove
and the nearest farm had some!

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Thanks everybody for all your replies.

I'll invest in a second pair of thin gloves I think and practice cooking with my gloves on at home.
That's going to invite yet more strange looks I'm sure. ;o)

If cooking with gloves on note that synthetics melt if they touch something very hot, let alone a
naked flame, and can give nasty burns. Wool, silk or cotton gloves are much better.

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Thanks everybody for all your replies.

I'll invest in a second pair of thin gloves I think and practice cooking with my gloves on at home.
That's going to invite yet more strange looks I'm sure. ;o)

Whilst I'm eager to get out there and do it, I'm going to (for once) listen to peoples advice and
leave wild-camping 'till late March on a low level route with a friend.

Really you need to become a weather-watcher rather than rely on the time of year - I have known it
balmy in October (sailing in a Bikini back in the days when I would wear one!) and have got
seriously cold in June (sailing in the rain - OK I had just come back from Greece and 40c).

Also remember that on the tops in the Highlands it can snow at any time of the year, not just
October - March.

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[H]omer, I sent an email regards your offer.

Cheers everybody.

Nathan

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Treefrog said:

Thanks everybody for all your replies.

I'll invest in a second pair of thin gloves I think and practice cooking with my gloves on at
home. That's going to invite yet more strange looks I'm sure. ;o)

Whilst I'm eager to get out there and do it, I'm going to (for once) listen to peoples advice and
leave wild-camping 'till late March on a low level route with a friend.

[H]omer, I sent an email regards your offer.

Sorry Nathan, but I won't get that Email, since my reply address is a forgery ([email hidden] is for
forwarding spam).

If you, or anyone else in the NG wants to contact me privately, send your Emails to:

uk.rec.walking at genesis-x.nildram.co.uk

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K.

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"Five Cats" <cats_spam@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message "]news:7EpivtFkluAAFw87@[127.0.0.1]...

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Really you need to become a weather-watcher rather than rely on the time of year - I have known
it balmy in October (sailing in a Bikini back in the days when I would wear one!) and have got
seriously cold in June (sailing in the rain - OK I had just come back from Greece and 40c).

I've done quite a few hours towards my PPL in both conventional light aircraft and microlights,
obviously a good knowledge of weather is required for this so this shouldn't take to much adapting
for mountains...

Hopefully not.

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I did notice how quick the weather changed whilst walking towards Scafell pike, it was quite
amazing. Half way up, the old yellow Seaking flew past but within 20 mins it wouldn't of been able
to do it. Whoever it was going to rescue was probably quite lucky that day.

You would be amazed at the weather those yellow hellies fly in, and rescue people from craggy areas.

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Also, whilst I'm a begginer I've been filling my 80l sack with as much gear as I can.

Ha! whereas the old hands are getting rid of as much as possible....

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I pack as if I am going to have to spend a night out there... I figured this was the best idea
until I'm more experienced. The extra weight doesn't worry me, if anything it's helping me to
get fit.

Think of your joints. Also if in extremis the extra weight could make the difference.

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Treefrog said:

Whilst I'm eager to get out there and do it, I'm going to (for once) listen to peoples advice and
leave wild-camping 'till late March on a low level route with a friend.

In all probably you'll make a few mistakes and have a few [censored] ups on your first few attempts.
Better to make those mistakes when the weather's fine and you aren't too far from civilisation. Not
a good idea to make those mistakes a long way from anywhere in seriously bad weather conditions.

When you do get around to it, have fun. Nothing like wild camping.

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When you do get around to it, have fun. Nothing like wild camping.

That could be read two ways I think.... ;-)

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[H]omer wrote on Mon, 12 Jan 2004 18:56:44 +0000....

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Sorry Nathan, but I won't get that Email, since my reply address is a forgery ([email hidden] is for
forwarding spam).

Not sure that cutting out the middleman by giving it as your own address is a good idea, though.

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I'm not suggesting a major disaster but you could make a silly mistake like forgetting to
bring any matches (I've done that once,

Like forgetting the fuel bottle for the stove. Done that one as well. Luckily it was a petrol
stove and the nearest farm had some!

I've gone camping, forgot to take a sleeping bag with me and had to stop in Penrith to buy one on
the way to Scotland. Doh!

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Really you need to become a weather-watcher rather than rely on the time of year - I have known it
balmy in October (sailing in a Bikini back in the days when I would wear one!) and have got
seriously cold in June (sailing in the rain - OK I had just come back from Greece and 40c).

I've done quite a few hours towards my PPL in both conventional light aircraft and microlights,
obviously a good knowledge of weather is required for this so this shouldn't take to much adapting
for mountains... I did notice how quick the weather changed whilst walking towards Scafell pike, it
was quite amazing. Half way up, the old yellow Seaking flew past but within 20 mins it wouldn't of
been able to do it. Whoever it was going to rescue was probably quite lucky that day.

Also, whilst I'm a begginer I've been filling my 80l sack with as much gear as I can. I pack as if I
am going to have to spend a night out there... I figured this was the best idea until I'm more
experienced. The extra weight doesn't worry me, if anything it's helping me to get fit.

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I've gone camping, forgot to take a sleeping bag with me and had to stop in Penrith to buy one on
the way to Scotland. Doh!

I've done that too. I'd actually paid into the campsite & set up my tent before realising I'd no
sleeping bag. It was a bank holiday weekend too, so the first dozen B&B's I tried were all full.
Fortunately the drive home was only about 90 mile. My wife was not amused.

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Five Cats said:

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When you do get around to it, have fun. Nothing like wild camping.

That could be read two ways I think.... ;-)

I probably didn't phrase that in the best possible way...

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Hi all - new person here (although I chose Michael S as my 'name' I've since noticed there's a
'Michael S' already - D'oh!).

Anyway, it's a question about gloves... what are the thin(ish) fleece gloves like? I was thinking of
getting some Lowe Alp fleece gloves and was wondering if anybody had any experience of them.

Cheers in advance!

Michael S (the 2nd!)

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Hi all - new person here (although I chose Michael S as my 'name' I've since noticed there's a
'Michael S' already - D'oh!).

Anyway, it's a question about gloves... what are the thin(ish) fleece gloves like? I was thinking
of getting some Lowe Alp fleece gloves and was wondering if anybody had any experience of them.

Cheers in advance!

Michael S (the 2nd!)

I've got some fleece gloves - they're OK when used in conjunction with wind/water proof outer
mitts.......