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  1. http://www.axcessnews.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=12990

    February 15, 2007
    Global Warming? Journalism? Don't Make Me Laugh!
    By Alan Caruba
    (AXcess News) S. Orange, NJ -

    As a very young man, fresh out of college and the army in the mid-1960's, I
    found myself employed as a rookie reporter on a weekly newspaper in New
    Jersey. I had never taken a course in journalism in my life, but I could
    write. The managing editor of the newspaper group that serviced a number of
    communities taught me all I ever needed to know about journalism. He taught
    me to be skeptical of everything and everyone. Not distrustful. Skeptical.
    People will tell you the truth they believe or want you to believe. They may
    be wrong. Or they may be deceitful. There's a difference. However, when
    error and deceit combine, there is a purpose, an agenda, and it exists, as
    often as not, to acquire wealth and power despite the harm it will leave in
    its wake. At the heart of what is wrong with journalism today is that
    legions of journalists will stand shoulder to shoulder for the sole purpose
    of deriding any "global warming skeptic" rather than wonder for a second how
    the "news" of a coming Ice Age in the 1970s became the "news" of Global
    Warming in the 1980s. I am reminded of this daily as I read newspapers and
    news magazines in which various reporters blithely and deliberately inform
    the reader that all questions regarding the existence of global warming have
    been answered, that the science is beyond doubt, and that the cause is the
    production of greenhouse gases, largely from industry, transportation, and
    other human activities. This is not merely an error. It is a complete
    deception the journalists have joined. They have ceased to be skeptical.
    They want you to stop being skeptical despite all evidence to the contrary.
    "Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist," says Dr. Timothy
    Ball. He has Ph.D. in climatology, having earned his degree from the
    University of London, England, and taught for many years at the University
    of Winnipeg. A Google search of his name turns up a plethora of posts
    attacking him, always a sure sign that the Greens feel threatened by an
    outspoken scientist. The quote below explains why: "Believe it or not,
    Global Warming is not due to human contribution of Carbon Dioxide (CO2).
    This in fact is the greatest deception in the history of science." Dr. Ball
    is hardly alone in his views. Dr. Richard Lindzen, an atmospheric physicist
    and a professor of meteorology at MIT, as well as a member of the National
    Academy of Science, has said of Global Warming that, "the consensus was
    reached before the research had even begun." Increasingly, not just climate
    scientists, but people in leadership positions around the world have joined
    in rebuking the Global Warming hoax. Czech President Vaclav Klaus is only
    the most recent, joining Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper who, in
    2006, received a letter from sixty prominent scientists expressing
    opposition to the theory of Global Warming. The list is growing as other
    scientists in France, Denmark and around the world speak up. There is
    something quite horrible about the complete failure of America's journalists
    to even acknowledge there might be something terribly wrong about the theory
    of Global Warming. So far the published science that purports to support the
    theory has been severely challenged and even disproved to the point of
    having deliberately falsified data. Too many journalists have remained
    steadfast to this greatest hoax of our times, publishing the most
    astonishing nonsense about the North Pole melting or all the polar bears
    disappearing. Anything can be attributed to Global Warming, but the premise
    of a rapidly warming Earth is baseless. The Earth warmed barely one degree
    Fahrenheit from 1850 to 1950 and there is no evidence of further warming.
    Anyone who challenges the "truth" of the global warming charlatans is
    demonized and compared to Holocaust deniers. Others are routinely accused of
    being in the pay of corporate interests. My own background as a public
    relations counselor has been cited as "proof" that I cannot be trusted.
    However, in nine years of writing a weekly commentary, my credibility would
    be in shreds if my facts were wrong. Is this new generation of journalists
    indifferent to the truth? Do they arrive at their job imbued with a mission
    to save the world? Do they believe that inconvenient facts can and should be
    ignored? This is not journalism. It is advocacy. The former belongs in the
    news columns, the latter on the editorial and opinion pages. For the week
    leading up to and following the recent release of the United Nations climate
    report summary, the front pages of America's newspapers proclaimed that
    Global Warming was real, millions would die from starvation, and the fresh
    water resources of the world would go dry by 2080. The final report is not
    due out for months and, like previous reports, what "science" is cited to
    support this balderdash will be thoroughly encumbered with words like
    "could", "may", "might", "is believed", or "is predicted." These are mushy
    words that scientists abhor. They want proof. The final report will
    actually be altered to reflect the initial summary. That is not science. It
    is propaganda. We look to journalists to present facts as accurately and
    dispassionately as possible. When they tell you the Earth is doomed, look
    for an alternative source of information.

  2. Obviously I am wasting my time but:

    Do you have health insurance? Home insurance? Car insurance?

    Most people would say yes to at least two of these.

    Yet the vast majority don't actually need them.

    Problem is, if you do need them and don't have them, you're screwed.

    If > 90% of the world's climate scientists agree that "CLIMATE CHANGE" is real, then it doesn't take much brain power to realise that we should do what we can to reduce human impact on this.

    If we are right, our grandchildren will thank us.

    If we are wrong, we have lost nothing.

    If we procede as business as usual and CLIMATE CHANGE is real, then trying to fix it up when it is too late is like being that person with no insurance at a time when they really wished they'd taken it out earlier. Too damn late.

  3. "patch70" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    If > 90% of the world's climate scientists agree that "CLIMATE CHANGE"
    is real, then it doesn't take much brain power to realise that we
    should do what we can to reduce human impact on this.

    By all means demonstrate that 90% of the world's scientists agree with
    global warming. That is a complete and utter lie promolgated by the media
    and the Global Warming myth perpetrators.

  4. On Feb 19, 7:31 pm, patch70 <patch70.2ma...@no-

    mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:

    Obviously I am wasting my time but:

    Do you have health insurance? Home insurance? Car insurance?

    Most people would say yes to at least two of these.

    Yet the vast majority don't actually need them.

    Problem is, if you do need them and don't have them, you're screwed.

    If > 90% of the world's climate scientists agree that "CLIMATE CHANGE"
    is real, then it doesn't take much brain power to realise that we
    should do what we can to reduce human impact on this.

    If we are right, our grandchildren will thank us.

    If we are wrong, we have lost nothing.

    If we procede as business as usual and CLIMATE CHANGE is real, then
    trying to fix it up when it is too late is like being that person with
    no insurance at a time when they really wished they'd taken it out
    earlier. Too damn late.

    --
    patch70

    Lost nothing??? The Kyoto protocols would cripple the world's
    greatest (ever) economy and yet accomplish nothing because China and
    India will more than make up for any carbon-based pollution reductions
    taken in the US.

    We'd lose everything.

    Fred

  5. Quoted message said:

    On Feb 19, 7:31 pm, patch70 <patch70.2ma...@no-

    mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:

    Obviously I am wasting my time but:

    Do you have health insurance? Home insurance? Car insurance?

    Most people would say yes to at least two of these.

    Yet the vast majority don't actually need them.

    Problem is, if you do need them and don't have them, you're screwed.

    If > 90% of the world's climate scientists agree that "CLIMATE CHANGE"
    is real, then it doesn't take much brain power to realise that we
    should do what we can to reduce human impact on this.

    If we are right, our grandchildren will thank us.

    If we are wrong, we have lost nothing.

    If we procede as business as usual and CLIMATE CHANGE is real, then
    trying to fix it up when it is too late is like being that person with
    no insurance at a time when they really wished they'd taken it out
    earlier. Too damn late.

    --
    patch70

    Lost nothing??? The Kyoto protocols would cripple the world's
    greatest (ever) economy and yet accomplish nothing because China and
    India will more than make up for any carbon-based pollution reductions
    taken in the US.

    It's a pity that valid points get lost in all the back and forth
    partisan [censored]. There is short term benefit to doing nothing, so you
    know that some will. There is an interesting discussion about how one
    would go about minimizing the cost and maximizing the incentives to
    action. If you don't solve this problem, everyone will cheat because
    they think everyone else will (that's my obligatory cycling content, it
    just happens to fit).

    But we never have this discussion because we're to busy being amazed by
    one idiot who contends that there is no consensus for global warming or
    another crackpot who insists that everyone needs to buy hydrogen cars NOW.

  6. [email hidden said:

    "]Lost nothing??? The Kyoto protocols would cripple the world's greatest (ever) economy and yet accomplish nothing because China and India will more than make up for any carbon-based pollution reductions taken in the US.

    We'd lose everything.

    What the? A truly bizarre argument.

    The losses would be that a few very wealthy CEOs might have to accept a salary of 10 million pa rather than 15. And smart CEOs would realise that there is plenty of money to be made in going green. Someone has to make money selling clean energy just as those promoting 'dirty' (ie CO2 producing) energy will have reduced profits if we go down the sensible pathway. If those fossil fuel sellers have half a brain, they will be the ones to put the money into the clean energy and will therefore offset any lost profits.

    I thought the US considered itself a world leader. If they are, then they should lead on this rather than say "we won't do anything until China and India lead the way".

  7. Tom Kunich said:

    By all means demonstrate that 90% of the world's scientists agree with global warming. That is a complete and utter lie promolgated by the media and the Global Warming myth perpetrators.

    Sure Tom, and the world is flat, the Easter Bunny is real, and cycling is free of doping...

  8. On 2/19/07 9:13 PM, in article
    [email hidden], "patch70"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Lost nothing??? The Kyoto protocols would cripple the world's greatest
    (ever) economy and yet accomplish nothing because China and India will
    more than make up for any carbon-based pollution reductions taken in
    the US.

    We'd lose everything.

    What the? A truly bizarre argument.

    The losses would be that a few very wealthy CEOs might have to accept a
    salary of 10 million pa rather than 15. And smart CEOs would realise
    that there is plenty of money to be made in going green. Someone has to
    make money selling clean energy just as those promoting 'dirty' (ie CO2
    producing) energy will have reduced profits if we go down the sensible
    pathway. If those fossil fuel sellers have half a brain, they will be
    the ones to put the money into the clean energy and will therefore
    offset any lost profits.

    I thought the US considered itself a world leader. If they are, then
    they should lead on this rather than say "we won't do anything until
    China and India lead the way".

    Are you stupid or what???
    You think it is all just about a CEOs salary??

    Remember Dumbass, fossil fuels are produced mostly in OTHER countries. Why
    do you assbags think the angry white man in America is the cause/cure?

    How about all the UAW union jobs?
    And you guys really think Kunich is an idiot??

    Lets all discuss our jobs we have and talk about the changes you might have
    to make if we make these pie-in-the-sky changes.

    Remember......... China, India, Brazil etal are not included in Kyoto..

  9. On 2/19/07 9:22 PM, in article
    [email hidden], "patch70"

    Quoted message said:


    Tom Kunich said:

    By all means demonstrate that 90% of the world's scientists agree with
    global warming. That is a complete and utter lie promolgated by the
    media and the Global Warming myth perpetrators.

    Sure Tom, and the world is flat, the Easter Bunny is real, and cycling
    is free of doping...

    And we were coming into an Ice Age in the 1970s.......

    That was the "flavor of the month" in the media at the time.

  10. ST said:

    How about all the UAW union jobs?
    And you guys really think Kunich is an idiot??

    Lets all discuss our jobs we have and talk about the changes you might have
    to make if we make these pie-in-the-sky changes.

    Remember......... China, India, Brazil etal are not included in Kyoto..

    By your reasoning, then it was a disaster that Germany was defeated in World War II because all those poor gas chamber operators lost their jobs.

  11. ST said:

    http://www.axcessnews.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=12990

    You don't care about copyright at all, huh? That's bad.
    --
    JT
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  12. ST said:

    http://www.axcessnews.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=12990

    February 15, 2007
    Global Warming? Journalism? Don't Make Me Laugh!
    By Alan Caruba
    (AXcess News) S. Orange, NJ -

    As a very young man, fresh out of college and the army in the mid-1960's, I
    found myself employed as a rookie reporter on a weekly newspaper in New
    Jersey. I had never taken a course in journalism in my life, but I could
    write. The managing editor of the newspaper group that serviced a number of
    communities taught me all I ever needed to know about journalism. He taught
    me to be skeptical of everything and everyone. Not distrustful. Skeptical.
    People will tell you the truth they believe or want you to believe. They may
    be wrong. Or they may be deceitful. There's a difference. However, when
    error and deceit combine, there is a purpose, an agenda, and it exists, as
    often as not, to acquire wealth and power despite the harm it will leave in
    its wake. At the heart of what is wrong with journalism today is that
    legions of journalists will stand shoulder to shoulder for the sole purpose
    of deriding any "global warming skeptic" rather than wonder for a second how
    the "news" of a coming Ice Age in the 1970s became the "news" of Global
    Warming in the 1980s. I am reminded of this daily as I read newspapers and
    news magazines in which various reporters blithely and deliberately inform
    the reader that all questions regarding the existence of global warming have
    been answered, that the science is beyond doubt, and that the cause is the
    production of greenhouse gases, largely from industry, transportation, and
    other human activities. This is not merely an error. It is a complete
    deception the journalists have joined. They have ceased to be skeptical.
    They want you to stop being skeptical despite all evidence to the contrary.
    "Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist," says Dr. Timothy
    Ball. He has Ph.D. in climatology, having earned his degree from the
    University of London, England, and taught for many years at the University
    of Winnipeg. A Google search of his name turns up a plethora of posts
    attacking him, always a sure sign that the Greens feel threatened by an
    outspoken scientist. The quote below explains why: "Believe it or not,
    Global Warming is not due to human contribution of Carbon Dioxide (CO2).
    This in fact is the greatest deception in the history of science." Dr. Ball
    is hardly alone in his views. Dr. Richard Lindzen, an atmospheric physicist
    and a professor of meteorology at MIT, as well as a member of the National
    Academy of Science, has said of Global Warming that, "the consensus was
    reached before the research had even begun." Increasingly, not just climate
    scientists, but people in leadership positions around the world have joined
    in rebuking the Global Warming hoax. Czech President Vaclav Klaus is only
    the most recent, joining Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper who, in
    2006, received a letter from sixty prominent scientists expressing
    opposition to the theory of Global Warming. The list is growing as other
    scientists in France, Denmark and around the world speak up. There is
    something quite horrible about the complete failure of America's journalists
    to even acknowledge there might be something terribly wrong about the theory
    of Global Warming. So far the published science that purports to support the
    theory has been severely challenged and even disproved to the point of
    having deliberately falsified data. Too many journalists have remained
    steadfast to this greatest hoax of our times, publishing the most
    astonishing nonsense about the North Pole melting or all the polar bears
    disappearing. Anything can be attributed to Global Warming, but the premise
    of a rapidly warming Earth is baseless. The Earth warmed barely one degree
    Fahrenheit from 1850 to 1950 and there is no evidence of further warming.
    Anyone who challenges the "truth" of the global warming charlatans is
    demonized and compared to Holocaust deniers. Others are routinely accused of
    being in the pay of corporate interests. My own background as a public
    relations counselor has been cited as "proof" that I cannot be trusted.
    However, in nine years of writing a weekly commentary, my credibility would
    be in shreds if my facts were wrong. Is this new generation of journalists
    indifferent to the truth? Do they arrive at their job imbued with a mission
    to save the world? Do they believe that inconvenient facts can and should be
    ignored? This is not journalism. It is advocacy. The former belongs in the
    news columns, the latter on the editorial and opinion pages. For the week
    leading up to and following the recent release of the United Nations climate
    report summary, the front pages of America's newspapers proclaimed that
    Global Warming was real, millions would die from starvation, and the fresh
    water resources of the world would go dry by 2080. The final report is not
    due out for months and, like previous reports, what "science" is cited to
    support this balderdash will be thoroughly encumbered with words like
    "could", "may", "might", "is believed", or "is predicted." These are mushy
    words that scientists abhor. They want proof. The final report will
    actually be altered to reflect the initial summary. That is not science. It
    is propaganda. We look to journalists to present facts as accurately and
    dispassionately as possible. When they tell you the Earth is doomed, look
    for an alternative source of information.

    More bull, like that propagated by your dear president. This kind of
    horsesh*t was quoted by pro-oil businesses and their scientists (and,
    of course, Bush himself) in trying to make out that global warming was
    all nonsense. It's not, it's real, the icecaps are melting and there
    is undeniable proof of all that.

    Quoted message said:

    From environment.newscientist.com

    Instant Expert: Climate Change

    Climate change is with us. A decade ago, it was conjecture. Now the
    future is unfolding before our eyes. Canada's Inuit see it in
    disappearing Arctic ice and permafrost. The shantytown dwellers of
    Latin America and Southern Asia see it in lethal storms and floods.
    Europeans see it in disappearing glaciers, forest fires and fatal heat
    waves.

    Scientists see it in tree rings, ancient coral and bubbles trapped in
    ice cores. These reveal that the world has not been as warm as it is
    now for a millennium or more. The three warmest years on record have
    all occurred since 1998; 19 of the warmest 20 since 1980. And Earth
    has probably never warmed as fast as in the past 30 years - a period
    when natural influences on global temperatures, such as solar cycles
    and volcanoes should have cooled us down. Studies of the thermal
    inertia of the oceans suggest that there is more warming in the
    pipeline.

    Climatologists reporting for the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
    Change (IPCC) say we are seeing global warming caused by human
    activities and there are growing fears of feedbacks that will
    accelerate this warming.

    -------

    from http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2016244,00.html

    Climate change: scientists warn it may be too late to save the ice
    caps

    David Adam, environment correspondent

    Monday February 19, 2007

    A critical meltdown of ice sheets and severe sea level rise could be
    inevitable because of global warming, the world's scientists are
    preparing to warn their governments. New studies of Greenland and
    Antarctica have forced a UN expert panel to conclude there is a 50%
    chance that widespread ice sheet loss "may no longer be avoided"
    because of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

    Such melting would raise sea levels by four to six metres, the
    scientists say. It would cause "major changes in coastline and
    inundation of low-lying areas" and require "costly and challenging"
    efforts to move millions of people and infrastructure from vulnerable
    areas. The previous official line, issued in 2001, was that the chance
    of such an event was "not well known, but probably very low".

    The melting process could take centuries, but increased warming caused
    by a failure to cut emissions would accelerate the ice sheets' demise,
    and give nations less time to adapt to the consequences. Areas such as
    the Maldives would be swamped and low-lying countries such as the
    Netherlands and Bangladesh, as well as coastal cities including
    London, New York and Tokyo, would face critical flooding.

    The warning appears in a report from the Intergovernmental Panel on
    Climate Change, which assesses the likely impacts of global warming
    and will be published in April. A final draft of the report's summary-
    for-policymakers chapter, obtained by the Guardian, says: "Very large
    sea level rises that would result from widespread deglaciation of
    Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets imply major changes in
    coastlines and inundation of low-lying areas, with greatest effects in
    river deltas.

    "Relocating populations, economic activity and infrastructure would be
    costly and challenging. There is medium confidence that both ice
    sheets would be committed to partial deglaciation for a global average
    temperature increase greater than 1-2C, causing sea level rise of 4-6m
    over centuries to millennia." Medium confidence means about a five in
    10 chance.

    The revelation comes as a new report points out that greenhouse gas
    emissions running into hundreds of millions of tonnes have not been
    disclosed by Britain's biggest businesses, masking the full extent of
    the UK's contribution to global warming. According to a report by
    Christian Aid, only 16 of Britain's top 100 listed companies are
    meeting the government's most elementary reporting guidelines on
    greenhouse gas emissions. As a result, almost 200m tonnes of damaging
    CO2 is estimated to be missing from the annual reports of FTSE 100
    companies. The figure is more than the annual reported emissions of
    Pakistan and Greece combined.

    This month the IPCC published a separate study on the science of
    climate change, which concluded that humans are "very likely" to be
    responsible for most of the recent warming, and that average
    temperatures would probably increase by 4C this century if emissions
    continue to rise. Even under its most optimistic scenario, based on a
    declining world population and a rapid switch to clean technology,
    temperatures are still likely to rise by 1.8C.

    The new report is expected to say this means there is "a significant
    probability that some large-scale events (eg deglaciation of major ice
    sheets) may no longer be avoided due to historical greenhouse gas
    emissions and the inertia of the climate system". Scientists involved
    with the IPCC process cannot talk publicly about its contents before
    publication. But a senior author on the report said: "It's not rocket
    science to realise that with the numbers coming out from the IPCC
    [science report], the warming by the end of the century is enough to
    do that." The report's conclusion poses a conundrum for governments of
    how to address a problem that is inevitable but may not occur for
    hundreds or thousands of years. "That's for the policy makers to
    decide but it really is a very difficult question," the source said.
    "Those are moral questions and the answer you give will depend very
    much on which part of the world you live in."

    Jonathan Overpeck, a climate scientist at the University of Arizona,
    said the key question was not whether the ice sheets would break up,
    but how quickly. Some models suggest rapid melting that would bring
    sea level rises of more than a metre per century. "That would be much
    harder for us to cope with," he says.

    The IPCC science report predicted sea level rises of up to 0.59m by
    the end of the century. But that does not include the possible
    contribution from ice sheets, because the experts judged it too
    unpredictable to forecast over short timescales.

    -------

    What agenda could scientists possibly have for faking such data? What
    financial gain would be achieved? There is far more financial gain
    possible for those who claim climate change is not real, that big
    businesses can go on behaving as before, that oil companies don't have
    to limit their production, that governments don't have to change their
    policies. If any side has something to gain from untruths, it is those
    who advocate doing nothing, who claim that all is fine.

    Read the IPCC report, or articles about it. And stop writing [censored]
    pretending that the problem doesn't exist. You are like an ostrich
    with it's head in the sand...wake up, smell the daisies and look with
    open eyes at what is a huge amount of evidence, plus an ever-growing
    number of scientists that agree. You are a flat-earther, nothing
    else.

  13. ST said:

    http://www.axcessnews.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=12990

    February 15, 2007
    Global Warming? Journalism? Don't Make Me Laugh!
    By Alan Caruba
    (AXcess News) S. Orange, NJ -

    As a very young man, fresh out of college and the army in the mid-1960's, I
    found myself employed as a rookie reporter on a weekly newspaper in New
    Jersey. I had never taken a course in journalism in my life, but I could
    write. The managing editor of the newspaper group that serviced a number of
    communities taught me all I ever needed to know about journalism. He taught
    me to be skeptical of everything and everyone. Not distrustful. Skeptical.
    People will tell you the truth they believe or want you to believe. They may
    be wrong. Or they may be deceitful. There's a difference. However, when
    error and deceit combine, there is a purpose, an agenda, and it exists, as
    often as not, to acquire wealth and power despite the harm it will leave in
    its wake. At the heart of what is wrong with journalism today is that
    legions of journalists will stand shoulder to shoulder for the sole purpose
    of deriding any "global warming skeptic" rather than wonder for a second how
    the "news" of a coming Ice Age in the 1970s became the "news" of Global
    Warming in the 1980s. I am reminded of this daily as I read newspapers and
    news magazines in which various reporters blithely and deliberately inform
    the reader that all questions regarding the existence of global warming have
    been answered, that the science is beyond doubt, and that the cause is the
    production of greenhouse gases, largely from industry, transportation, and
    other human activities. This is not merely an error. It is a complete
    deception the journalists have joined. They have ceased to be skeptical.
    They want you to stop being skeptical despite all evidence to the contrary.
    "Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist," says Dr. Timothy
    Ball. He has Ph.D. in climatology, having earned his degree from the
    University of London, England, and taught for many years at the University
    of Winnipeg. A Google search of his name turns up a plethora of posts
    attacking him, always a sure sign that the Greens feel threatened by an
    outspoken scientist. The quote below explains why: "Believe it or not,
    Global Warming is not due to human contribution of Carbon Dioxide (CO2).
    This in fact is the greatest deception in the history of science." Dr. Ball
    is hardly alone in his views. Dr. Richard Lindzen, an atmospheric physicist
    and a professor of meteorology at MIT, as well as a member of the National
    Academy of Science, has said of Global Warming that, "the consensus was
    reached before the research had even begun." Increasingly, not just climate
    scientists, but people in leadership positions around the world have joined
    in rebuking the Global Warming hoax. Czech President Vaclav Klaus is only
    the most recent, joining Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper who, in
    2006, received a letter from sixty prominent scientists expressing
    opposition to the theory of Global Warming. The list is growing as other
    scientists in France, Denmark and around the world speak up. There is
    something quite horrible about the complete failure of America's journalists
    to even acknowledge there might be something terribly wrong about the theory
    of Global Warming. So far the published science that purports to support the
    theory has been severely challenged and even disproved to the point of
    having deliberately falsified data. Too many journalists have remained
    steadfast to this greatest hoax of our times, publishing the most
    astonishing nonsense about the North Pole melting or all the polar bears
    disappearing. Anything can be attributed to Global Warming, but the premise
    of a rapidly warming Earth is baseless. The Earth warmed barely one degree
    Fahrenheit from 1850 to 1950 and there is no evidence of further warming.
    Anyone who challenges the "truth" of the global warming charlatans is
    demonized and compared to Holocaust deniers. Others are routinely accused of
    being in the pay of corporate interests. My own background as a public
    relations counselor has been cited as "proof" that I cannot be trusted.
    However, in nine years of writing a weekly commentary, my credibility would
    be in shreds if my facts were wrong. Is this new generation of journalists
    indifferent to the truth? Do they arrive at their job imbued with a mission
    to save the world? Do they believe that inconvenient facts can and should be
    ignored? This is not journalism. It is advocacy. The former belongs in the
    news columns, the latter on the editorial and opinion pages. For the week
    leading up to and following the recent release of the United Nations climate
    report summary, the front pages of America's newspapers proclaimed that
    Global Warming was real, millions would die from starvation, and the fresh
    water resources of the world would go dry by 2080. The final report is not
    due out for months and, like previous reports, what "science" is cited to
    support this balderdash will be thoroughly encumbered with words like
    "could", "may", "might", "is believed", or "is predicted." These are mushy
    words that scientists abhor. They want proof. The final report will
    actually be altered to reflect the initial summary. That is not science. It
    is propaganda. We look to journalists to present facts as accurately and
    dispassionately as possible. When they tell you the Earth is doomed, look
    for an alternative source of information.

    Quoted message said:

    From wikipedia:

    Alan Caruba is a public relations advisor, best known as a critic of
    environmentalism and Islam and, in 1990, founder of the National
    Anxiety Center, a think tank dedicated to debunking the idea that
    there is global warming and damage in the ozone layer.

    Caruba's business website states that his clients have included
    corporations, think tanks, trade associations and others. Since the
    late 1980s, he has been the public relations counselor for the New
    Jersey Pest Management Association and, for 10 years until 2005, he
    served as the Director of Communications for the American Policy
    Center." [1] In the 70s he played role in the introduction of the
    carbamate insecticide bendiocarb [2], which was later withdrawn from
    the market by its manufacturer.
    Contents
    [hide]

    * 1 Views
    * 2 Publications
    * 3 Accuracy
    * 4 National Anxiety Center

    [edit] Views

    Caruba writes extensively on a wide variety of topics that include
    energy issues, education, the United Nations, and popular culture. He
    has claimed that global warming is a 'hoax' [3], denied that CFCs
    damage the ozone layer, and criticised many other claims made by
    environmentalists. He has criticized Sourcewatch, who criticized him
    in return [4].

    Caruba initially supported the Bush administration's war with Iraq,
    but has since written to express a note of caution regarding the hoped-
    for outcome.

    He believes that:

    The whole of America, Europe and other nations that are the
    engines of the global economy, has been under attack by the
    environmentalists because an evil, corrupt United Nations wants to be
    an unelected global government and we stand in their way. This is why
    the worldwide environmental movement is directed from the United
    Nations. Behind the United Nations are those who subscribe still to
    the failed economic theories of Marxism and who hate the success of
    the United States and others who have embraced capitalism...They are the
    ones seeking to destroy the sovereignty of the United States by
    stealth, creating a North American Union to merge our nation with
    Canada and Mexico, sinking the individual protections afforded by our
    Constitution into a morass of regulations over which there will be no
    vote by Americans. Global warming is the mask, the charade, the Big
    Lie by which the destruction of the United States of America is being
    advanced. "Global Warming on Steriods" Jan. 3, 2007

    [edit] Publications

    Caruba writes a weekly column, "Warning Signs", widely excerpted on
    conservative news and opinion websites. He is, for example, a regular
    contributor to CNSnews.com, the Free Market News Network, and
    AxcessNews.com.

    In 2003, a collection of his columns was published, "Warning Signs",
    by Merril Press. In late 2006, a new collection titled "Right Answers:
    Separating Fact from Fantasy" was published.

    Caruba is the author of several books dating back to the 1970's and
    has contributed opinion pieces to consumer and trade magazines, as
    well as to newspapers including The Philadelphia Inquirer, The
    Providence Journal, and The Washington Times.

    Caruba is a founding member of the National Book Critics Circle and
    maintains a website on new fiction and non-fiction, [5]. He is also a
    member of the Society of Professional Journalists, American Society of
    Journalists and Authors, and the National Association of Science
    Writers.

    [edit] Accuracy

    The accuracy of some of Caruba's articles has been called into
    question, but he has never withdrawn or altered any of his weekly
    commentaries. One example is a January 2003 article about mercury [6]
    which has been disputed.

    [edit] National Anxiety Center

    The National Anxiety Center identifies itself as "a clearinghouse for
    information about 'scare campaigns' designed to influence public
    policy and opinion." The Center maintains a website at www.anxietycenter.com.

    Not someone I would choose to believe...

  14. patch70 said:

    I thought the US considered itself a world leader. If they are, then
    they should lead on this rather than say "we won't do anything until
    China and India lead the way".

    I wouldn't be terribly surprised if that doesn't happen and soon. The
    tipping point will arrive to where more is made from going green than
    not, and most of those people that Kunich points to for support will
    have crossed the room where the money is being made. One of them just
    sold us a bunch of light bulbs.

    I'm old enough to have grown up when we didn't have air conditioning
    in cars even in Kansas and Texas, and the best part of the five and
    dime was that they DID have air conditioning. Now they use air
    conditioning in Maryland in the fall.

    Being a godless liberal, I have faith enough in the intelligence of
    humankind and the general direction of social evolution (Kunich
    aside), that I believe that we are in the dither and blather period,
    to be followed by the time when things are solved for the better. Its
    not like we are talking about there not being solutions - the longer
    looking arguments are about what will be the solution.

    Well, except for Kunich and his ilk, which (pronoun chosen
    deliberately, so don't give me a hard time) think that there is no
    problem and no solution needed and everything is fine, but they
    complain more than anyone else anyway.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  15. ST said:

    Remember Dumbass, fossil fuels are produced mostly in OTHER countries. Why
    do you assbags think the angry white man in America is the cause/cure?

    How about all the UAW union jobs?
    And you guys really think Kunich is an idiot??

    Well, it isn't about where they are produced and more about where they
    are consumed. We're right there in the lead on that one.

    Your lack of faith in the U.S. is illuminating, but not surprising.
    And, no, I don't think Kunich is an idiot, I think he is a closed
    minded conservative that borders on being a crackpot. That makes the
    issue of whether he is a stupid or foolish person a moot point.

    And he is so repetitive that I would guess that many on this list
    could write his replies for him.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  16. "Fred Fredburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    But we never have this discussion because we're to busy being amazed by
    one idiot who contends that there is no consensus for global warming or
    another crackpot who insists that everyone needs to buy hydrogen cars NOW.

    And here all this time I thought we never have those discussions because
    people like you are [censored] and know absolutely nothing about the subject
    except what your leader Al Bore tells you.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_global_warming_consensus

    "Their views contrast with the mainstream scientific opinion on climate
    change, as reported in the IPCC Third Assessment Report (2001"

    Here's the significant thing about that - the RELEASE of the 2001 IPCC
    report has been held up for three months so that they could change the
    scientific reports to MATCH THE SUMMARY CONCLUSIONS. They have even said
    that!

    So explain how ANYONE could tell us how people oppose the scientific "facts"
    when they aren't even available?

  17. "patch70" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I thought the US considered itself a world leader. If they are, then
    they should lead on this rather than say "we won't do anything until
    China and India lead the way".

    Yeah, let's see - it takes REAL leadership to jump off of a cliff sceaming,
    "I'm doing this for humanityyyyyyyyyy!"

    By 2015 China and probably India will be putting out more CO2 than the USA.
    They not only are not part of the Kyoto Protocol demands - they are in fact
    given a complete PASS in the text of the document. They not only don't have
    to cut their production of CO2 but they have already said that they never
    will.

    But of course completely ignornant fools who like to march in "like, I
    really like the environment" parades are the ones who should be making these
    decisions for the USA. We're a democracy after all.

  18. "patch70" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    ST said:

    How about all the UAW union jobs?
    And you guys really think Kunich is an idiot??

    Lets all discuss our jobs we have and talk about the changes you might
    have
    to make if we make these pie-in-the-sky changes.

    Remember......... China, India, Brazil etal are not included in
    Kyoto..

    By your reasoning, then it was a disaster that Germany was defeated in
    World War II because all those poor gas chamber operators lost their
    jobs.

    You and ass crack can tell us what you do for a living and what effect
    cutting fuel consumption for transportation by 60% wold effect you.

    I'm waiting.

  19. On Feb 20, 3:18 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    You don't care about copyright at all, huh? That's bad.

    Can you explain why it is "bad?" The person who allegedly wrote it
    put it out there to see.

    Can you explain how ideas can be property, when ideas completely lack
    the critical feature of property (that is, ideas are not rivalrous
    scarcely; ideas can be replicated ad infinitum, unlike actual
    property).

  20. On Feb 20, 3:18 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    You don't care about copyright at all, huh? That's bad.

    Can you explain why it is "bad?" The person who allegedly wrote it
    put it out there to see. ST never agreed, by contract or otherwise,
    not to copy it.

    Can you explain how ideas can be property, when ideas completely lack
    the critical feature of property (that is, ideas are not rivalrous
    scarce; ideas can be replicated ad infinitum, unlike actual
    property).

    _Against Intellectual Property_, N. S. Kinsella
    http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/15_2/15_2_1.pdf

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