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  1. On the back of the curious case of a spoke nipple becoming
    unscrewed and falling off into the bowels of my front wheel,
    comes the case of the rear wheel's bearings and cones
    becoming dangerously loose. Only done 70 miles on them and
    the rear brake started to squeal. Closer inspection revealed
    an alarming amount of play in the rear wheel.

    I haven't got the correct tool to fix it, so went to LBS 1.
    Can't do it as we don't have the correct tool either. LBS 2
    the same story. LBS 3 takes it away for ten minutes only to
    say they can't do it as they can't get the rear cassette
    off as they broke their ill fitting tool on it.

    Went to specialist road bike LBS 4 and left it with them as
    I had run out of time. I'm only glad I didn't attempt it
    myself given all the palaver it caused the professionals!

    Simon M.

  2. Simon Mason said:

    On the back of the curious case of a spoke nipple
    becoming unscrewed and falling off into the bowels of my
    front wheel, comes the case of the rear wheel's bearings
    and cones becoming dangerously loose. Only done 70 miles
    on them and the rear brake started to squeal. Closer
    inspection revealed an alarming amount of play in the
    rear wheel.

    I haven't got the correct tool to fix it, so went to LBS
    1. Can't do it as we don't have the correct tool either.
    LBS 2 the same story. LBS 3 takes it away for ten minutes
    only to say they can't do it as they can't get the rear
    cassette off as they broke their ill fitting tool on it.

    Went to specialist road bike LBS 4 and left it with them
    as I had run out of time. I'm only glad I didn't attempt
    it myself given all the palaver it caused the
    professionals!

    Simon M.

    What is so special about it ? I presume its not a Shimano
    cassette. Remember professionals are just like us except
    they get paid for it.

  3. What model rear hub?

    ~PB

  4. "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    What model rear hub?

    ~PB

    Gipiemme wheels

    wiggle.co.ukwiggle.co.uk

    Campag Veloce cassette.

    wiggle.co.ukwiggle.co.uk

    Simon M.

  5. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Simon Mason
    On the back of the curious case of a spoke nipple becoming
    unscrewed and falling off into the bowels of my front wheel,
    comes the case of the rear wheel's bearings and cones
    becoming dangerously loose. Only done 70 miles on them and
    the rear brake started to squeal. Closer inspection revealed
    an alarming amount of play in the rear wheel.

    I haven't got the correct tool to fix it, so went to LBS 1.
    Can't do it as we don't have the correct tool either. LBS 2
    the same story. LBS 3 takes it away for ten minutes only to
    say they can't do it as they can't get the rear cassette
    off as they broke their ill fitting tool on it.

    Went to specialist road bike LBS 4 and left it with them as
    I had run out of time. I'm only glad I didn't attempt it
    myself given all the palaver it caused the professionals!

    Simon M.

    [censored]! I have got those same wheels on one of my bikes. Does this mean I can look forward to imminent part failures? I have recently done a 70mile tourist trial on them without incident, but I'll keep my eyes peeled.

    What is this "special" tool that the LBS do not seem to have? Maybe you should get one, and then you could charge the LBS for using it while they fix your wheels?

  6. Simon Mason said:

    "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:<[email hidden]-
    berlin.de>...

    Quoted message said:

    What model rear hub?

    ~PB

    Gipiemme wheels

    wiggle.co.ukwiggle.co.uk

    Campag Veloce cassette.

    wiggle.co.ukwiggle.co.uk

    Simon M.

    3 LBSs didn't have a campag cassette tool ?Sheesh.

  7. [email hidden] (Simon Mason) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On the back of the curious case of a spoke nipple
    becoming unscrewed and falling off into the bowels of my
    front wheel, comes the case of the rear wheel's bearings
    and cones becoming dangerously loose. Only done 70 miles
    on them and the rear brake started to squeal. Closer
    inspection revealed an alarming amount of play in the
    rear wheel.

    Because of the way you bought your bike it will not have had
    the pre-delivery checks an LBS would give it. These teething
    troubles illustrate one of the reasons a bike will cost more
    from an LBS. They're not necessarily serious but they need
    attending to.

    --
    Dave...

  8. "McBain_v1" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    [censored]! I have got those same wheels on one of my
    bikes. Does this mean I can look forward to imminent part
    failures? I have recently done a 70mile tourist trial on
    them without incident, but I'll keep my eyes peeled.

    What is this "special" tool that the LBS do not seem to
    have? Maybe you should get one, and then you could charge
    the LBS for using it while they fix your wheels?

    It gets worse! LBS 4 says it has no cones to tighten
    anyway, only sealed bearings and there is something wrong
    with them. Apart from the lateral play, the spindle that
    goes through the bearings appears twisted. He can't fix it
    either and has referred me to LBS 5 who I am assured will
    be able to do something about it.

    --
    Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W
    simonmason.karoo.netsimonmason.karoo.net

  9. MSeries said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What model rear hub?

    Gipiemme wheels
    wiggle.co.ukwiggle.co.uk

    Campag Veloce cassette.
    wiggle.co.ukwiggle.co.uk

    3 LBSs didn't have a campag cassette tool ?Sheesh.

    Cassette lockrings for Campag are supplied with hubs not
    cassettes. The only complication in removing the cassette
    would be if Gipiemme use a different lockring than Campag's
    (I don't know).

    If lockring is a Campag type, for future maintenance, I
    recommend getting a remover tool from Parker International
    and a chain whip from Mike Dyason's.

    ~PB

  10. Robert Saunders said:


    Phil Corley's here in Milton Keynes don't appear to stock
    much Campag. I popped in after shoe plates for Pro-fit
    pedals. They had to be heavily prompted before they
    admitted to having heard about such pedals, then admitted
    they don't stock Campag parts because people find it so
    much easier to order by mail!

    When I was in 'the trade' we never stocked campag because
    unless you bring it in by the truck load you can't buy it
    for less than it gets sold in the back of the comic.

    <RantMode> From a consumer point of view (as I am now)
    Parker, Settle etc seem great because they let you get all
    this nice shiney stuff cheap, from the point of view of the
    LBS, the industry and the introduction of better quality
    bikes and parts to people new to cycling its sucks.

    Smallish LBS can't afford to stock high quality stuff for
    local market because the comic boys offer it at very little
    more than LBS can buy it for. Comic readers won't buy stuff
    from LBS at 25 to 30% more than Parkers.

    Quality stuff isn't in LBS so non comic reading punter
    cannot find out about better quality stuff, keeps going with
    [censored] stuff, has a less fun time, the industry as a whole
    makes less money, has less clout with government, more
    motorways get built.

    Whenever Shimano try to support LBS's by trying to control
    leakage from OEM to retail, everyone jumps on them about
    restricting competition. But they still expect to be able to
    walk into LBS and choose from a full range to tyre sizes,
    cassettes, chains etc and whine like hell that the shop
    doesn't have the tools to repair stuff that they never sell.

    </RantMode>

    Glad I got out.

    --
    Andy Morris

    AndyAtJinkasDotFreeserve.Co.UK

    Love this:
    Put an end to Outlook Express's messy quotes
    home.in.tum.deoe quotefix

  11. "AndyMorris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Robert Saunders said:


    Phil Corley's here in Milton Keynes don't appear to
    stock much Campag. I popped in after shoe plates for Pro-
    fit pedals. They had to be heavily prompted before they
    admitted to having heard about such pedals, then
    admitted they don't stock Campag parts because people
    find it so much easier to order by mail!

    When I was in 'the trade' we never stocked campag because
    unless you bring it in by the truck load you can't buy it
    for less than it gets sold in the back of the comic.

    Look like a new back wheel, after only 70 miles! Blooming
    road bikes; my hybrid does 1000's of miles a year with no
    fuss and has had the same wheels for 4 years.

    Simon M.

  12. Simon Mason said:


    Look like a new back wheel, after only 70 miles! Blooming
    road bikes; my hybrid does 1000's of miles a year with no
    fuss and has had the same wheels for 4 years.

    Simon M.

    I think its your particular hub and LBS configuration, my
    road bikes are fine.

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