Giro Prologue

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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But then your intent was to redicule and not to face the
fact that sprinters can ride prologues.

That's not a rule. Some of them do. But i've never seen
(well hardly seen) Steels, Blijlevens, Casper, McEwen a.o.
ride a good prologue (let's say top15)

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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I thought with perhaps an extra 50m lead out yesterday he
would have won, but anyway, kudos to both him and Cunego.
Gilbert's turning into a pretty handy rider too.

Why do you think that? with an extra 50m Cunego would
have won with two bicycle lengths ahead. He came out of
McGees wheel.

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"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message

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I thought with perhaps an extra 50m lead out yesterday
he would have won, but anyway, kudos to both him and
Cunego. Gilbert's turning

into a

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pretty handy rider too.

Why do you think that? with an extra 50m Cunego would
have won with two bicycle lengths ahead. He came out of
McGees wheel.

I meant that if Gilbert had have stayed in front for another
50m, then McGee might have been able to hold off Cunego.
Then again, maybe not.

Jeff

(Kenny) said:

That's not a rule. Some of them do. But i've never seen
(well hardly seen) Steels, Blijlevens, Casper, McEwen a.o.
ride a good prologue (let's say top15)

What's the value to a primarily sprinter to do well in a
prologue? Unless you wn and wear the jersey, I see no real
value. Stay out of the way, don't fall down, and wait for
your day. (If they are giving sprinter points for winning
prologues, I'll change this opinion, but only then.)

They might all be able to finish top ten in a short prologue
and it might mean they all would be wasting energy to do so.

Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
two wheels...

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On 12 May 2004 03:02:40 -0700, [email hidden]

(Kenny) said:

That's not a rule. Some of them do. But i've never seen
(well hardly seen) Steels, Blijlevens, Casper, McEwen
a.o. ride a good prologue (let's say top15)

What's the value to a primarily sprinter to do well in a
prologue? Unless you wn and wear the jersey, I see no real
value. Stay out of the way, don't fall down, and wait for
your day. (If they are giving sprinter points for winning
prologues, I'll change this opinion, but only then.)

They might all be able to finish top ten in a short
prologue and it might mean they all would be wasting
energy to do so.

Not if you can wear your home tour's leader jersey for a
day...

Particularly when you're a symbol of your nation's prowess.
Or want to be.

Remember Jean-Patrick Nazon scrapping for bonus seconds, and
wearing yellow for a day last year?

-Sonarrat.

On 12 May 2004 13:45:59 -0700, [email hidden] (Sonarrat)

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Not if you can wear your home tour's leader jersey
for a day...

Particularly when you're a symbol of your nation's prowess.
Or want to be.

My point was in place and show, not a win. To ask why they
aren't i the top fifteen means little.

I agree if the sprinter thinks he can win the prologue, he
should and probably would go for it. If he thinks he could
make a good showing, but sees two or three fast TT guys
finishing in front, I think he takes it relatively easy.

Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
two wheels...

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On 12 May 2004 13:45:59 -0700, [email hidden]

(Sonarrat) said:

Not if you can wear your home tour's leader jersey for
a day...

Particularly when you're a symbol of your nation's
prowess. Or want to be.

My point was in place and show, not a win. To ask why they
aren't i the top fifteen means little.

I agree if the sprinter thinks he can win the prologue, he
should and probably would go for it. If he thinks he could
make a good showing, but sees two or three fast TT guys
finishing in front, I think he takes it relatively easy.

Put it this way: If a sprinter is within range of the
leader's jersey after the prologue (by finishing top 15),
then they can grab bonus seconds in the early stages and
take the jersey. No matter what the competition is like,
they have to go all out in the prologue so as not to lose
time to the other sprinters with exactly the same idea.

But in this Giro, the sprinters were a bit short changed.
They only had stage 1 to take pink before the climbs in
stage 2 and 3 resulted in time gaps that were impossible to
erase with bonus seconds.

Jeff