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  1. [image:
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    Ok, now I am wondering two things. First, you see on the left side
    there's a (I'm at a loss for the name) metal washer-type thing that you
    can screw and unscrew? It comes loose every time I ride. Is this a
    problem, and what can I do to fix it?

    Secondly, what are closed bearings and how do I get them? The bike
    shop guy said I have open bearings but didn't explain what they are or
    what problems they cause. Any help would be appreciated.

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  2. The metal washer-type thing is called a lockring, and it holds all the
    bearings and grease and axle bits together. You want it tight as you
    can get. Generally you're going to want a special wrench called
    (surprise!) a lockring wrench. The axle is actually a standard bike
    part, just in a different place, so bike shops should be able to
    tighten this for you no problem.

    I'm at a loss in terms of bearings. The bike shop guy might have meant
    sealed vs. unsealed pedals or something. I don't think it'll make that
    much of a difference though.

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  3. Thanks flyer

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  4. This might be the wrong answer, but if you don't have a lockring wrench
    you can use a square brass drift and hit the drift on the slots (not
    the lockring) with a hammer. I do this successfully...but be carefull,
    you can damage it. I want to buy a lockring wrench but don't know where
    to get one.

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  5. As said above, it looks like a normal bike bottom bracket. What they are
    talking about with sealed bearing is the cartridge style of bottom
    bracket.

    Something like this:
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=12

    Do you do a lot of idling? Could it be that the BB is lossening because
    it is going the wrong way a lot?

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  6. ulyssesnitrate9 said:

    [image:
    http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/508/n1170660059300329949546yt2.jpg]

    Ok, now I am wondering two things. First, you see on the left side
    there's a (I'm at a loss for the name) metal washer-type thing that you
    can screw and unscrew? It comes loose every time I ride. Is this a
    problem, and what can I do to fix it?

    Secondly, what are closed bearings and how do I get them? The bike
    shop guy said I have open bearings but didn't explain what they are or
    what problems they cause. Any help would be appreciated.

    ulyssesnitrate9,

    You should be able to upgrade your giraffe to a sealed cartridge BB
    (Bottom Bracket) as decent bikes have...
    I'm quite sure the shell size in your case too is the standard 68mm but
    the axle length may vary with giraffe brand / model!
    On my giraffe (2007 Nimbus 5' CrMo) the original axle was 116mm long!
    You may upgrade to any bike BB that meets the actual specs of your
    raffie.

    For more details you may read this thread (my posts...)
    http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18428

    Flaviu

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  7. lsd said:

    As said above, it looks like a normal bike bottom bracket. What they are
    talking about with sealed bearing is the cartridge style of bottom
    bracket.

    Something like this:
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=12

    Do you do a lot of idling? Could it be that the BB is lossening because
    it is going the wrong way a lot?

    Lost Sixties' Delight, you are very correct! I do a lot of idling, so
    that probably is what's going on there. Thanks for the help!

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  8. UAC said:

    ulyssesnitrate9,

    You should be able to upgrade your giraffe to a sealed cartridge BB
    (Bottom Bracket) as decent bikes have...
    I'm quite sure the shell size in your case too is the standard 68mm but
    the axle length may vary with giraffe brand / model!
    On my giraffe (2007 Nimbus 5' CrMo) the original axle was 116mm long!
    You may upgrade to any bike BB that meets the actual specs of your
    raffie.

    For more details you may read this thread (my posts...)
    http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18428

    Flaviu

    Hey Flaviu, I was kind of curious what the benefit(s) of having a
    sealed cartridge BB would be as opposed to a normal unsealed one? I
    can't even tell if mine is currently sealed or not, because the bike
    shop guy asked if I wanted sealed put in last time and I said go ahead,
    but I never got a bill for it.

    Also, I've now noticed my chain becomes loose only when the cranks are
    horizontal, but specifically only when the right pedal is back and the
    left one forward. Any ideas?

    Thanks for your help!

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  9. ulyssesnitrate9 said:

    Hey Flaviu, I was kind of curious what the benefit(s) of having a sealed
    cartridge BB would be as opposed to a normal unsealed one? I can't
    even tell if mine is currently sealed or not, because the bike shop guy
    asked if I wanted sealed put in last time and I said go ahead, but I
    never got a bill for it.

    It doesn't really matter whether your BB bearings are sealed or not; if
    you keep the lock ring tight (use blue loctite if necessary), the
    bearings are pretty unlikely to fail. You'd have to replace the BB to
    change the bearings.

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  10. ulyssesnitrate9 said:

    Hey Flaviu, I was kind of curious what the benefit(s) of having a sealed
    cartridge BB would be as opposed to a normal unsealed one? I can't
    even tell if mine is currently sealed or not, because the bike shop guy
    asked if I wanted sealed put in last time and I said go ahead, but I
    never got a bill for it.

    Also, I've now noticed my chain becomes loose only when the cranks are
    horizontal, but specifically only when the right pedal is back and the
    left one forward. Any ideas?

    Thanks for your help!

    ulyssesnitrate9,

    Is it a QU-AX giraffe that you have?

    First, read here (between the lines) about the Bottom Bracket (BB)...
    It's good to know some basic things about main components 🙂

    Giraffe unicycles use a transmission system similar to fixed gear
    bikes. The difference is that the first use low quality / cheap
    components for the task.

    The BB of most giraffes (including yours) is the loose bearings, axle
    and cups concept! This was manly designed for forward pedaling only and
    is poor quality realized!

    When you idle you turn the pedals back and forth. The phenomenon called
    -precession- leads to the BB cones being cyclically tightened /
    un-tightened. This obviously will work them loose sooner or later!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession

    OK, to prevent this you either have it reinstalled with -Blue Loctite-
    by a wise mechanic or much better upgrade it to a cartridge BB!!!

    The cartridge BB (as you could see in the first link...) consists of
    one closed unit which contains the axle and the bearings!!! The only
    thing you need to do is secure it well in the frame's BB shell. This
    should last very much!

    You can find pretty good cartridge BBs for low money now...10-15EU!

    I got a Shimano BB-UN26 (10EU) for my giraffe and it works
    perfectly!!!
    BB shell size should be 68mm and the axle on mine is 117mm!
    http://tinyurl.com/2fl2s6
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    Regarding chain tension - I'm afraid the sprocket / chainring are
    eccentric on your giraffe too...
    read again here:
    http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18428

    Hope this makes it clearer somehow,
    Flaviu

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  11. See, my parents had bought the giraffe from some Schwinn bike shop a
    long time ago and Im pretty sure it isn't Schwinn otherwise I'd see
    their giant logo on it. UA-AX? Who knows? It was made in Taiwan and
    has no indicator as to what the actual company was.

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