Giant (the make!) frame sizes

"Jaz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Hi,

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My question is, does someone with a little experience with Giant hardtails have any comments on
the frame size? Are they 'normal' or do they tend to

be

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larger than other manufacturers etc.

I'm about 5'9 (maybe just shy of) with about 30" inseam. I have the choice between a 17" and 19"
model. I'm thinking the 17" would be most

appropriate

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(I'm a weekend warrior but need it for road use a little too).

I just went into my LBS yesterday and sat on the Giant Bikes. I am also 5' 9" and have a 30" inseam.
The dealer suggested the 19" for me.

By the way, where are you considering purchasing on-line?

Thanks,

Phillip

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By the way, where are you considering purchasing on-line?

Thanks,

Phillip

From the original post:

"I live out in the sticks so there is no advantage for me to buy from a LBS (since, there isn't
one!) so I'll be ordering one online. I'm OK with bike mechanics so should be OK."

Chris

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By the way, where are you considering purchasing on-line?

Thanks,

Phillip

From the original post:

"I live out in the sticks so there is no advantage for me to buy from a LBS (since, there isn't
one!) so I'll be ordering one online. I'm OK with bike mechanics so should be OK."

Where, not why, hmm 😉

Cheers,

Mathijs

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By the way, where are you considering purchasing on-line?

Thanks,

Phillip

From the original post:

"I live out in the sticks so there is no advantage for me to buy from a LBS (since, there isn't
one!) so I'll be ordering one online. I'm OK with bike mechanics so should be OK."

Chris

Chris, I think you misunderstood my post. WHERE are you considering buying Giant on line? I would
like to go to the site and do some price comparison and shopping.

Thanks,

"Jaz" <[email hidden]> wrote

| I'm in the market for a cheapish Giant hardtail (something along the lines of a Rincon or Yukon).
| I live out in the sticks so there is no advantage
for
| me to buy from a LBS (since, there isn't one!) so I'll be ordering one online. I'm OK with bike
| mechanics so should be OK.
|
| My question is, does someone with a little experience with Giant hardtails have any comments on
| the frame size? Are they 'normal' or do they tend to
be
| larger than other manufacturers etc.
|
| I'm about 5'9 (maybe just shy of) with about 30" inseam. I have the choice between a 17" and 19"
| model. I'm thinking the 17" would be most
appropriate
| (I'm a weekend warrior but need it for road use a little too).
|
| Any comments? I realise going to a bike shop is the best solution but even my "local" bike shops
| (60-70km away) don't have Giants so I'm just going
to
| order online and be done with it.
|
| Would like some advice before I do tho 🙂

Here's the skinny on Giant's sizing scheme. The measured size is from the center of the bottom
bracket all the way to the top edge of the seat collar. Add to this the fact that the seat collar is
1.5 to 2 inches from the top of the top tube and you get a better comparison to traditional bike
measurements (sometimes the top of the top tube, sometimes the centerline) so a 19 is actually
closer to a traditional 17-17.5. The 19 sounds about right, given the particulars you've listed,
though I'd have to see you on the bike itself to be sure.

One thing I'm curious about. Giant does not allow its dealers to sell online. It is specifically
prohibited in the dealer agreement. This leads me to suspect you are about to buy an older model
and/or used bike. Once you have it in hand, it is well worth the trip to the LBS to get it
inspected, assembled, etc.

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"Jaz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Hi,

I'm in the market for a cheapish Giant hardtail (something along the lines of a Rincon or Yukon).
I live out in the sticks so there is no advantage for me to buy from a LBS (since, there isn't
one!) so I'll be ordering one online. I'm OK with bike mechanics so should be OK.

My question is, does someone with a little experience with Giant hardtails have any comments on
the frame size? Are they 'normal' or do they tend to be larger than other manufacturers etc.

I'm about 5'9 (maybe just shy of) with about 30" inseam. I have the choice between a 17" and 19"
model. I'm thinking the 17" would be most appropriate (I'm a weekend warrior but need it for road
use a little too).

Any comments? I realise going to a bike shop is the best solution but even my "local" bike shops
(60-70km away) don't have Giants so I'm just going to order online and be done with it.

Would like some advice before I do tho 🙂

Thanks guys/gals, Jaz

I'm 5' 11" with a 34 inseam and ride a Giant 19" frame.

Hey I ride a yukon. 2004 Model its excellent value (good beginners/intermediate bike) . Im over 100%
happy with mine Nice geo's (super tough) Longer top tube. feels nice with the lay back risers. (feel
more in control) i am 5'6 I got the 17" frame..

my brother tried the 19" frame it was perfect. hes about 6'1... But he has long legs the Lay back
riser i think may have caused probs with his knees touching...i would probably recommend the 19"

im going to go ride mine now. i cant seem to get off it.

"Phillip T. Murphy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Chris, I think you misunderstood my post. WHERE are you considering

buying

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Giant on line? I would like to go to the site and do some price

comparison

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and shopping.

Yes, yes...too many beers with a very late lunch, and I read "why." Sorry.

Chris

"Jaz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi,

I'm in the market for a cheapish Giant hardtail (something along the lines of a Rincon or Yukon).
I live out in the sticks so there is no advantage

for

Quoted message said:

me to buy from a LBS (since, there isn't one!) so I'll be ordering one online. I'm OK with bike
mechanics so should be OK.

My question is, does someone with a little experience with Giant hardtails have any comments on
the frame size? Are they 'normal' or do they tend to

be

Quoted message said:

larger than other manufacturers etc.

I'm about 5'9 (maybe just shy of) with about 30" inseam. I have the choice between a 17" and 19"
model. I'm thinking the 17" would be most

appropriate

Quoted message said:

(I'm a weekend warrior but need it for road use a little too).

Any comments? I realise going to a bike shop is the best solution but even my "local" bike shops
(60-70km away) don't have Giants so I'm just going

to

Quoted message said:

order online and be done with it.

Would like some advice before I do tho 🙂

Thanks guys/gals, Jaz

I've got an NRS in an 18.5 size. It's full suspension. I'm 5'7" with a 30" or thereabouts inseam.
Fits well although it's on the larger size for me with not so much standover clearance. I tried the
16.5 but the length up top didn't feel right for me. I 'd probably go for the 17 if I were you.
--
Westie

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By the way, where are you considering purchasing on-line?

Thanks,

Phillip

Hi,

I'm in the UK so this probably won't be a lot of use to you, but there are quite a few places online
to purchase them here... dalescycles.com is where I'm looking at, at the moment.

When you sat on the 19" models, what sort of clearance did you have over the top bar?

Cheers, Jaz

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One thing I'm curious about. Giant does not allow its dealers to sell online. It is specifically
prohibited in the dealer agreement. This

leads

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me to suspect you are about to buy an older model and/or used bike. Once you have it in hand, it
is well worth the trip to the LBS to get it inspected, assembled, etc.

I'm in the UK so I suspect Giant's rules for online sales are different over here? There are quite a
lot of UK dealers who sell online so I'd suspect it's OK.

Any idea why Giant prohibit this in the states?

Jaz

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When you sat on the 19" models, what sort of clearance did you have over

the

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top bar?

I'd say maybe 1.5 inches or so...

Jaz said:

Quoted message said:

One thing I'm curious about. Giant does not allow its dealers to sell online. It is specifically
prohibited in the dealer agreement. This

leads

Quoted message said:

me to suspect you are about to buy an older model and/or used bike. Once you have it in hand, it
is well worth the trip to the LBS to get it inspected, assembled, etc.

I'm in the UK so I suspect Giant's rules for online sales are different over here? There are quite
a lot of UK dealers who sell online so I'd suspect it's OK.

In the UK it's probably down to the competition laws, stuff like you're not allowed to
price-fix etc.

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Any idea why Giant prohibit this in the states?

Lawsuits maybe? Giant might be afraid of Joe Bloggs not setting up his mail-order bike properly,
having an accident and then suing them. By making the LBS sell them 'in person' as it were, they
ensure they're properly set up.
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"Ben" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
| On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:50:12 +0100, "Jaz" <[email hidden]> wrote:
|
| >> One thing I'm curious about. Giant does not allow its dealers to sell online. It is
| >> specifically prohibited in the dealer agreement. This
| >leads
| >> me to suspect you are about to buy an older model and/or used bike.
Once
| >> you have it in hand, it is well worth the trip to the LBS to get it inspected, assembled, etc.
| >
| >I'm in the UK so I suspect Giant's rules for online sales are different
over
| >here? There are quite a lot of UK dealers who sell online so I'd suspect it's OK.
|
| In the UK it's probably down to the competition laws, stuff like you're not allowed to
| price-fix etc.
|
| >Any idea why Giant prohibit this in the states?
|
| Lawsuits maybe? Giant might be afraid of Joe Bloggs not setting up his mail-order bike properly,
| having an accident and then suing them. By making the LBS sell them 'in person' as it were, they
| ensure they're properly set up.

Giant appears to be extremely concious of liability. Their bikes come festooned with a multitude of
"Warning" stickers on the frame, the stem, the seatpost, the brake levers and the brakes themselves.
If I was a consumer, I'd be scared to death with so many warnings all over.

However, it has far more to do with Giant keeping control over their prices in the US. Yes, it is
illegal to price fix, but the remedy is to take a company to court and almost all of their customers
are independent bike dealers who can't afford to "Rock the boat" that way. Giant gives their dealers
a range of prices and you are supposed to sell them in that range (within the current model year) or
they can refuse to sell to you. They claim this is to protect competing dealers from cutthroating
each other, but it is in reality price fixing. Giant isn't the only company to do it, it's done by
every bike company I've dealt with.

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