gi vs. gl

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in part:

Quoted message said:

Mars Observer <[email hidden]> wrote:

:> I think it's the old 'plant based' vs. 'animal based' issue. I'm not
:> taking sides, though I think most LC diets are animal based... while
:> the GI diet is plant based (with some exceptions, granted).

What makes the GI diet plant based? What makes a low-carb diet animal
based?

Geez....

The definition of glycemic index has to do with rise in blood insulin after
consuming a portion of the food containing 100 g of carbohydrate. Thus, it
is not possible to say what the glycemic indexes of meat, eggs, and most
non-vegetable matter are. Thus any sort of diet that manipulates the
glycemic index or glycemic load is manipulating the balance of different
foods from plant sources.

Also, very low-carb diets pretty much have to include meat or eggs. Whole
plant sources tend to contain too much carbohydrate to form the basis of a
low carb diet. It all depends on how "low" you want to go.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA [email hidden]

Roger Zoul said:

Mars Observer <[email hidden]> wrote:

:> I think it's the old 'plant based' vs. 'animal based' issue. I'm not
:> taking sides, though I think most LC diets are animal based... while
:> the GI diet is plant based (with some exceptions, granted).

What makes the GI diet plant based? What makes a low-carb diet animal
based?

Geez....

Ummm... the amount of plant food you eat. You know, the food pyramid
type of idea (not *the* food pyramid ie. usda, but a food pyramid,
such as old-worlds, mediteranian diet, etc - you can apply the
'pyramid' concept with any eatin plan).

Well... on GI/GL diets, the base of that pyramid is whole grains,
fruits and vegetbles (plant based).

I guess some people on low-carb diets could have a base of vegetables,
but I think for many the base is meat and/or dairy.

On 1 Oct 2005 08:27:34 -0700, "Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Roger Zoul said:

Mars Observer wrote:

:> I think it's the old 'plant based' vs. 'animal based' issue. I'm not
:> taking sides, though I think most LC diets are animal based... while
:> the GI diet is plant based (with some exceptions, granted).

By "plant based" do you mean some variation on vegitarian?

Sorry, I wan't very clear on that. No - I don't mean a variation of
vegitarian... I just mean the plant based food (whole grains would be
the most consumed (think food pyramid). A typical GI food pyramid
would look like this:
http://www.oldwayspt.org/pyramids/med/p_med.html

P.S. oldways is a great site BTW - really worth checking out!

Jim Chinnis <[email hidden]> wrote in part:

Quoted message said:

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in part:

Quoted message said:

Mars Observer <[email hidden]> wrote:

:> I think it's the old 'plant based' vs. 'animal based' issue. I'm not
:> taking sides, though I think most LC diets are animal based... while
:> the GI diet is plant based (with some exceptions, granted).

What makes the GI diet plant based? What makes a low-carb diet animal
based?

Geez....

The definition of glycemic index has to do with rise in blood insulin after
consuming a portion of the food containing 100 g of carbohydrate. Thus, it
is not possible to say what the glycemic indexes of meat, eggs, and most
non-vegetable matter are. Thus any sort of diet that manipulates the
glycemic index or glycemic load is manipulating the balance of different
foods from plant sources.

Also, very low-carb diets pretty much have to include meat or eggs. Whole
plant sources tend to contain too much carbohydrate to form the basis of a
low carb diet. It all depends on how "low" you want to go.

I just noticed I said "insulin." I meant glucose...
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA [email hidden]