Getting Tired

Ben said:

If I get up early in the morning and have no braekfast and go for a 20 or 30
k ride, I seem to get tired easilly.

However if I have breakfast I feel better.
Is this normal ?

just as normal as staying up all night makes you tired.

no, it's not normal.
Try having dinner instead, or maybe afternoon tea first thing in the morning.

Ben said:

If I get up early in the morning and have no braekfast and go for a 20 or 30
k ride, I seem to get tired easilly.

However if I have breakfast I feel better.
Is this normal ?

That is very abnormal!!
If you dont have breakfast your dorsalaic thermoglucosic node should power up and provide you with unlimited power. Breakfast only inhibits the bodies utilisation of this mode of power, a bit like how water inhibits the benfits of dehydration and the wonderful mind altering effects it brings. I think maybe you need to go to your doctor and get him to check it out.
One should never be without the benefits of perpetual motion thermodynamics....

"Ben" wrote

Quoted message said:

If I get up early in the morning and have no braekfast and go for a 20 or
30
k ride, I seem to get tired easilly.

However if I have breakfast I feel better.
Is this normal ?

Sounds pretty normal to me. You are heading out with your fuel tanks half
empty.
Having breakfast beforehand will help you to last longer, or you can cheat
like me and put sugar in your water bottles (5% weight/volume) or about 1
1/2 tablespoons in a 900ml bottle. I find castor sugar is better because it
dissolves quicker, or if you want to spend the money, use one of the power
drinks. I then have breakfast when I get home.

Bjay

After massively gruelling rides in high temps with strong head winds, unyelding inclines & mega technical tight going (MTB), coming home to a tall, cold glass of milk with sugar in it really hits the spot.

Marx SS said:

After massively gruelling rides in high temps with strong head winds,
unyelding inclines & mega technical tight going (MTB), coming home to a
tall, cold glass of milk with sugar in it really hits the spot.

--
Marx SS

See, that would just make me throw up. I like watermelon - sugar and
fluids in one hit, easy on the queasy.

T

rhymes too often

Ben said:

If I get up early in the morning and have no braekfast and go for a 20 or 30
k ride, I seem to get tired easilly.

However if I have breakfast I feel better.
Is this normal ?

A lot of people don't want to eat before training because it upsets the
stomach. If you're training for mega-distance, it's important to get
used to it. Before a run, it's a slice of toast with peanut butter.
Before a 60+ km bike ride, it can be anything. I'm fond of bacon
sandwiches or scrambled eggs.

T

Ben said:

If I get up early in the morning and have no braekfast and go for a 20 or 30
k ride, I seem to get tired easilly.

However if I have breakfast I feel better.
Is this normal ?

Okay, I find this site is very good for all thinks generally related to
cycling, especially cycling nutrition :

http://www.cptips.com/

Marx SS said:

After massively gruelling rides in high temps with strong head winds,
unyelding inclines & mega technical tight going (MTB), coming home to a
tall, cold glass of milk with sugar in it really hits the spot.

Or (pre-packaged) oak custard... perfect after a long ride.

In The Netherlands, the brand to look out for is
Campina Chocolate Vla - bloody fantastic, just about
fueled a whole bike tour with it, oh and cheese sandwiches.

Couldn't find custard at all in France or Germany, so that's
a very important note for planning your itinerary. Stopping
to cook it yourself would be quite time consuming, and you might
pass-out from exhaustion in the meantime.

I've read that W.A. has the highest per-capita flavoured
milk consumption in Australia, so when I go tour the munda-biddi
trail, I hope to find a good selection of bicycling custard.

-kt

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Quoted message said:

Marx SS said:

After massively gruelling rides in high temps with strong head winds,
unyelding inclines & mega technical tight going (MTB), coming home to a
tall, cold glass of milk with sugar in it really hits the spot.

Or (pre-packaged) oak custard... perfect after a long ride.

In The Netherlands, the brand to look out for is
Campina Chocolate Vla - bloody fantastic, just about
fueled a whole bike tour with it, oh and cheese sandwiches.

Couldn't find custard at all in France or Germany, so that's
a very important note for planning your itinerary. Stopping
to cook it yourself would be quite time consuming, and you might
pass-out from exhaustion in the meantime.

I've read that W.A. has the highest per-capita flavoured
milk consumption in Australia, so when I go tour the munda-biddi
trail, I hope to find a good selection of bicycling custard.

-kt

Er...
There's no shops on the trail, so stock up before you start. Detours to
shops off the trail are quite long.

Marty

quote='kingsley'On Tue said:

After massively gruelling rides in high temps with strong head winds,
unyelding inclines & mega technical tight going (MTB), coming home to a
tall, cold glass of milk with sugar in it really hits the spot.

Or (pre-packaged) oak custard... perfect after a long ride.

In The Netherlands, the brand to look out for is
Campina Chocolate Vla - bloody fantastic, just about
fueled a whole bike tour with it, oh and cheese sandwiches.

Couldn't find custard at all in France or Germany, so that's
a very important note for planning your itinerary. Stopping
to cook it yourself would be quite time consuming, and you might
pass-out from exhaustion in the meantime.

I've read that W.A. has the highest per-capita flavoured
milk consumption in Australia, so when I go tour the munda-biddi
trail, I hope to find a good selection of bicycling custard.

-kt[/QUOTE]
Carton of Choc Milk....add 4 spoons of custard powder.....carton resealed and in bidon cage on bike....shake shake shake on the trail.....carton of chocolate custard......Maybe. Might have to do it in winter so the custard sets.......Or might just ruin a good carton of Choc Milk.

SteveA

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Quoted message said:

If I get up early in the morning and have no braekfast and go for a 20 or

30

Quoted message said:

k ride, I seem to get tired easilly.

However if I have breakfast I feel better.
Is this normal ?

You gotta eat champ.......I can't live without breakfast - I eat 8 Weet-Bix
with light milk and 4 slices toast with marmalade (no butter) every morning
before riding to work (about 1 hour ride). I also have mid-morning snacks at
9ish and 1030ish (usually fruit).

I am pretty big and have a high metabolism so my eating patterns would prob
not be suited for you, but it is important to fuel the body first thing in
the morning (especially before exercise).

I find that the only problem with eating heaps is that when I have holidays
at Christmas and stay off the bike for a couple of weeks, my eating habits
stay the same and I generally put on a couple of kilos by the time I get
back to work and back on the bike. This year I might even try something
novel with a combination of cutting back a bit on the food and throwing in a
couple of rides a week.

Ride On,

Gags

Ride On,

Gags

Where did you read that?

Quoted message said:

I've read that W.A. has the highest per-capita flavoured
milk consumption in Australia, so when I go tour the munda-biddi

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 at 12:31 GMT, Gags (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

"Ben" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If I get up early in the morning and have no braekfast and go for a 20 or

30

Quoted message said:

k ride, I seem to get tired easilly.

However if I have breakfast I feel better.
Is this normal ?

You gotta eat champ.......I can't live without breakfast - I eat 8 Weet-Bix
with light milk

Strewth. Unfortuantely, I only discovered a month or so ago that I
might be developing a lactose intolerance. Unfortunately, decraasing
the amount of milk really makes weatbix less appetising.

The whole wanting to spew up whilst riding is not so fun.

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
MacOSX: Sort of like a pedigree persian cat. Very sleek, very
sexy, but a little too prone to going cross-eyed, biting you on
your thumb and then throwing up on your trousers. -- Jim @ ASR

"TimC" <[email hidden]

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Strewth. Unfortuantely, I only discovered a month or so ago that I
might be developing a lactose intolerance. Unfortunately, decraasing
the amount of milk really makes weatbix less appetising.

Is that something that you can develop? I drink heaps
of milk and the only "issue" I have is it sometimes
makes my sinuses block up. At least I guess that's
the milk's fault? It's usually when I already have a
cold. I try to avoid milk when I'm already snotty!

Quoted message said:

The whole wanting to spew up whilst riding is not so fun.

Sounds like you could be eating too much, too close
to your ride. What would you eat before a ride and
how long before the ride would it be?

hippy
"known to clear supermarket aisles before rides"

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 at 23:58 GMT, hippy (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

"TimC" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Strewth. Unfortuantely, I only discovered a month or so ago that I
might be developing a lactose intolerance. Unfortunately, decraasing
the amount of milk really makes weatbix less appetising.

Is that something that you can develop? I drink heaps

Didn't save the URL. A simple google search last time gave me the
impression it is something you develop, at any time.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The whole wanting to spew up whilst riding is not so fun.

Sounds like you could be eating too much, too close
to your ride. What would you eat before a ride and
how long before the ride would it be?

4 weetbix about... half an hour before riding.

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
"I give up," said Pierre de Fermat's friend. "How DO you keep a
mathematician busy for 350 years?"

TimC said:

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 at 23:58 GMT, hippy (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

"TimC" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Strewth. Unfortuantely, I only discovered a month or so ago that I
might be developing a lactose intolerance. Unfortunately, decraasing
the amount of milk really makes weatbix less appetising.

Is that something that you can develop? I drink heaps

Didn't save the URL. A simple google search last time gave me the
impression it is something you develop, at any time.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The whole wanting to spew up whilst riding is not so fun.

Sounds like you could be eating too much, too close
to your ride. What would you eat before a ride and
how long before the ride would it be?

4 weetbix about... half an hour before riding.

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
"I give up," said Pierre de Fermat's friend. "How DO you keep a
mathematician busy for 350 years?"

Current thinking is that you develop lactose intolerance but must be
pre-disposed to it, then it will only develop if you continually have a
large intake. Like most food intolerances. Each time that you have "too
much" and get a reaction, you are more likely to get a reaction the next
time, and all that.

"TimC" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The whole wanting to spew up whilst riding is not so fun.

Sounds like you could be eating too much, too close
to your ride. What would you eat before a ride and
how long before the ride would it be?

4 weetbix about... half an hour before riding.

Most of the stuff I've read seems to say to allow
2-4 hours between eating a meal and riding. This
varies depending on: 'your' stomach, the food/drink
in question, the intensity of the ride. You need to
suss out the variables over time to see what you
can eat comfortably and how long to leave it before
riding. 30min is too short a time for a lot of people.

http://www.google.com/search?q=eating+before+riding

hippy

hippy said:

"TimC" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> The whole wanting to spew up whilst riding is not so fun.

Sounds like you could be eating too much, too close
to your ride. What would you eat before a ride and
how long before the ride would it be?

4 weetbix about... half an hour before riding.

Most of the stuff I've read seems to say to allow
2-4 hours between eating a meal and riding. This
varies depending on: 'your' stomach, the food/drink
in question, the intensity of the ride. You need to
suss out the variables over time to see what you
can eat comfortably and how long to leave it before
riding. 30min is too short a time for a lot of people.

http://www.google.com/search?q=eating+before+riding

hippy

Plus if it's that late before riding you're not really going to get
benefit out of it as an energy source until a few hours into your ride.
If it gets that late, try a gu or a few jelly babies or something. About
an hour out, a slice of toast is good, it stops me getting hungry
halfway through a short session and if I'm doing a long ride I'll keep
eating throughout. With the above info, I'd say 4 hours is a bit long
unless it's a full steak dinner...

Mmmm steak.