Getting this off my chest

People get one idea stuck in their minds and it is very hard to kick it out
amd implant a new one. I am so glad my parents raised me to totally open
minded.

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bjgeiger
"Jean Staffen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I swear to God, I think people have gone nuts. Everyday, there is a show

on

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TV or radio about how America has become too fat. I do demos in grocery
stores in and around Austin, Tx and all people do is eat. Yet, the low

carb

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method is working for millions of people. I've lost 40 lbs, lowered my
cholesterol and feel good. I see fantastic weight loss reported on this

NG

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everyday.

Yet I keep getting comments like these:

"You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
"Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and ice

cream,

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huh?)
"South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
"I thought you were smarter than that."
"You'll ruin your health."
"Don't lose any more."

And on and on and on. What is it, jealousy? What ever happened to

support

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and encouragement. I'm a 65 year old woman with a genius IQ, since when am

I

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not allowed to make my own decisions?

The comments I get from people some times are not in the spirit of trying

to

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help, they are just nasty comments intended to put me down.

I've gotten to the point that I don't hardly mention my weight loss or
eating choices any more. Screw 'em.

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Jean Staffen said:

I swear to God, I think people have gone nuts. Everyday, there is a show on
TV or radio about how America has become too fat. I do demos in grocery
stores in and around Austin, Tx and all people do is eat. Yet, the low carb
method is working for millions of people. I've lost 40 lbs, lowered my
cholesterol and feel good. I see fantastic weight loss reported on this NG
everyday.

Yet I keep getting comments like these:

"You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
"Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and ice cream,
huh?)
"South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
"I thought you were smarter than that."
"You'll ruin your health."
"Don't lose any more."

And on and on and on. What is it, jealousy? What ever happened to support
and encouragement. I'm a 65 year old woman with a genius IQ, since when am I
not allowed to make my own decisions?

The comments I get from people some times are not in the spirit of trying to
help, they are just nasty comments intended to put me down.

I've gotten to the point that I don't hardly mention my weight loss or
eating choices any more. Screw 'em.

IGNORANCE

Ignorance is sometimes the root of evil comments.

They don't "understand", therefore you are somehow bad.

They don't have the correct information, therefore Atkins or Other is
"Unhealthy because you eat all that fat, and if you don't have
carbohydrates, your mind stops working" so you are doomed.

IGNORANCE

Real powerful stuff.

EZ to get, too.

Jim

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From: "Jean Staffen" [email hidden]

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. What is it, jealousy?

Yes.
Andrea

Jean Staffen wrote:
:: I swear to God, I think people have gone nuts. Everyday, there is a
:: show on TV or radio about how America has become too fat. I do
:: demos in grocery stores in and around Austin, Tx and all people do
:: is eat. Yet, the low carb method is working for millions of people.
:: I've lost 40 lbs, lowered my cholesterol and feel good. I see
:: fantastic weight loss reported on this NG everyday.
::
:: Yet I keep getting comments like these:
::
:: "You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
:: "Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and
:: ice cream, huh?)
:: "South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
:: "I thought you were smarter than that."
:: "You'll ruin your health."
:: "Don't lose any more."
::
:: And on and on and on. What is it, jealousy? What ever happened to
:: support and encouragement. I'm a 65 year old woman with a genius IQ,
:: since when am I not allowed to make my own decisions?

Well, there's your problem. Apparently you expect people do be as smart and
as informed as you. Please remember that most of the people you're listing
to are just ignorant, and many are too damn smart to realize it.

::
:: The comments I get from people some times are not in the spirit of
:: trying to help, they are just nasty comments intended to put me down.
::
:: I've gotten to the point that I don't hardly mention my weight loss
:: or eating choices any more. Screw 'em.

Well, funny thing is no one ever gives me grief on my choices when I tell
them. No one. Perhaps it has to do with how I look. 🙂

bjgeiger wrote:
:: People get one idea stuck in their minds and it is very hard to kick
:: it out amd implant a new one. I am so glad my parents raised me to
:: totally open minded.

No one is totally open minded. And, being open minded can have probems of
its own.

::
:: --
:: bjgeiger
:: "Jean Staffen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: I swear to God, I think people have gone nuts. Everyday, there is
::: a show on TV or radio about how America has become too fat. I do
::: demos in grocery stores in and around Austin, Tx and all people do
::: is eat. Yet, the low carb method is working for millions of
::: people. I've lost 40 lbs, lowered my cholesterol and feel good. I
::: see fantastic weight loss reported on this NG everyday.
:::
::: Yet I keep getting comments like these:
:::
::: "You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
::: "Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and
::: ice cream, huh?)
::: "South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
::: "I thought you were smarter than that."
::: "You'll ruin your health."
::: "Don't lose any more."
:::
::: And on and on and on. What is it, jealousy? What ever happened to
::: support and encouragement. I'm a 65 year old woman with a genius
::: IQ, since when am I not allowed to make my own decisions?
:::
::: The comments I get from people some times are not in the spirit of
::: trying to help, they are just nasty comments intended to put me
::: down.
:::
::: I've gotten to the point that I don't hardly mention my weight loss
::: or eating choices any more. Screw 'em.
:::
:::
::
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Roger Zoul wrote:
|| bjgeiger wrote:
|||| People get one idea stuck in their minds and it is very
|||| hard to kick it out amd implant a new one. I am so glad my
|||| parents raised me to totally open minded.
||
|| No one is totally open minded. And, being open minded can
|| have probems of its own.
||

Always heard if you are too open minded your brains fall out...
:-) BJ

Roger Zoul wrote:
||
|| Well, funny thing is no one ever gives me grief on my choices
|| when I tell them. No one. Perhaps it has to do with how I
|| look. 🙂

Visions of a 500 lb gorilla, excuse me 450 lb. :-) BJ

BJ in Texas wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::::
:::: Well, funny thing is no one ever gives me grief on my choices
:::: when I tell them. No one. Perhaps it has to do with how I
:::: look. 🙂
::
:: Visions of a 500 lb gorilla, excuse me 450 lb. :-) BJ

Basically! 🙂

jbuch wrote:
:: Jean Staffen wrote:
::: I swear to God, I think people have gone nuts. Everyday, there is
::: a show on TV or radio about how America has become too fat. I do
::: demos in grocery stores in and around Austin, Tx and all people do
::: is eat. Yet, the low carb method is working for millions of
::: people. I've lost 40 lbs, lowered my cholesterol and feel good. I
::: see fantastic weight loss reported on this NG everyday.
:::
::: Yet I keep getting comments like these:
:::
::: "You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
::: "Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and
::: ice cream, huh?)
::: "South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
::: "I thought you were smarter than that."
::: "You'll ruin your health."
::: "Don't lose any more."
:::
::: And on and on and on. What is it, jealousy? What ever happened to
::: support and encouragement. I'm a 65 year old woman with a genius
::: IQ, since when am I not allowed to make my own decisions?
:::
::: The comments I get from people some times are not in the spirit of
::: trying to help, they are just nasty comments intended to put me
::: down.
:::
::: I've gotten to the point that I don't hardly mention my weight loss
::: or eating choices any more. Screw 'em.
:::
:::
::
::
:: IGNORANCE
::
:: Ignorance is sometimes the root of evil comments.
::
:: They don't "understand", therefore you are somehow bad.
::
:: They don't have the correct information, therefore Atkins or Other is
:: "Unhealthy because you eat all that fat, and if you don't have
:: carbohydrates, your mind stops working" so you are doomed.
::
:: IGNORANCE
::
::
:: Real powerful stuff.
::
:: EZ to get, too.
::
:: Jim

No kidding.

I think it is a good idea not to mention it to most people. There is a
little jealousy, but I feel it is more the fact that they see you doing
something about your weight problem and it makes them feel they are not
doing anything. In other words they may feel lazy. This happens to us all.
Your real friends will support you in what you do. As far as SB or Atkins
goes, I think they both work. I am on neither, I am just eating LC.

Enjoy and stay the course for yourself. Don't worry about what other people
say. When you get to goal and stay there, people will start complementing
you. They just need to get used to you being thin. People don't like
change and don't like to feel like they are doing nothing while you are.

Curt
--
211/189/180. . 6'2"
Age 39
Highest weight 250 5+ years ago

"Jean Staffen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I swear to God, I think people have gone nuts. Everyday, there is a show

on

Quoted message said:

TV or radio about how America has become too fat. I do demos in grocery
stores in and around Austin, Tx and all people do is eat. Yet, the low

carb

Quoted message said:

method is working for millions of people. I've lost 40 lbs, lowered my
cholesterol and feel good. I see fantastic weight loss reported on this

NG

Quoted message said:

everyday.

Yet I keep getting comments like these:

"You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
"Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and ice

cream,

Quoted message said:

huh?)
"South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
"I thought you were smarter than that."
"You'll ruin your health."
"Don't lose any more."

And on and on and on. What is it, jealousy? What ever happened to

support

Quoted message said:

and encouragement. I'm a 65 year old woman with a genius IQ, since when am

I

Quoted message said:

not allowed to make my own decisions?

The comments I get from people some times are not in the spirit of trying

to

Quoted message said:

help, they are just nasty comments intended to put me down.

I've gotten to the point that I don't hardly mention my weight loss or
eating choices any more. Screw 'em.

curt wrote:
:: I think it is a good idea not to mention it to most people. There
:: is a little jealousy, but I feel it is more the fact that they see
:: you doing something about your weight problem and it makes them feel
:: they are not doing anything. In other words they may feel lazy.
:: This happens to us all. Your real friends will support you in what
:: you do. As far as SB or Atkins goes, I think they both work. I am
:: on neither, I am just eating LC.
::

Eating LC is Atkins.

:: Enjoy and stay the course for yourself. Don't worry about what
:: other people say. When you get to goal and stay there, people will
:: start complementing you. They just need to get used to you being
:: thin. People don't like change and don't like to feel like they are
:: doing nothing while you are.
::
:: Curt
:: --
:: 211/189/180. . 6'2"
:: Age 39
:: Highest weight 250 5+ years ago
::
::
:: "Jean Staffen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: I swear to God, I think people have gone nuts. Everyday, there is
::: a show on TV or radio about how America has become too fat. I do
::: demos in grocery stores in and around Austin, Tx and all people do
::: is eat. Yet, the low carb method is working for millions of
::: people. I've lost 40 lbs, lowered my cholesterol and feel good. I
::: see fantastic weight loss reported on this NG everyday.
:::
::: Yet I keep getting comments like these:
:::
::: "You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
::: "Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and
::: ice cream, huh?)
::: "South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
::: "I thought you were smarter than that."
::: "You'll ruin your health."
::: "Don't lose any more."
:::
::: And on and on and on. What is it, jealousy? What ever happened to
::: support and encouragement. I'm a 65 year old woman with a genius
::: IQ, since when am I not allowed to make my own decisions?
:::
::: The comments I get from people some times are not in the spirit of
::: trying to help, they are just nasty comments intended to put me
::: down.
:::
::: I've gotten to the point that I don't hardly mention my weight loss
::: or eating choices any more. Screw 'em.

Jean Staffen said:

"You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
"Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and ice cream,
huh?)
"South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
"I thought you were smarter than that."
"You'll ruin your health."
"Don't lose any more."

The best revenge you can do to these idiots is to live happily, healthily, and
longer than they do so that you get to have the last word.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

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bjgeiger wrote:
:: People get one idea stuck in their minds and it is very hard to kick
:: it out amd implant a new one. I am so glad my parents raised me to
:: totally open minded.

No one is totally open minded. And, being open minded can have probems of
its own.

True. If you don't stand up for something, you'll fall for anything. I
suppose it's good to be open minded, but a little sceptical too, just in
case. 🙂
Tom
210/180/180

Jean Staffen said:

I swear to God, I think people have gone nuts. Everyday, there is a show on
TV or radio about how America has become too fat. I do demos in grocery
stores in and around Austin, Tx and all people do is eat. Yet, the low carb
method is working for millions of people. I've lost 40 lbs, lowered my
cholesterol and feel good. I see fantastic weight loss reported on this NG
everyday.

Yet I keep getting comments like these:

"You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
"Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and ice cream,
huh?)
"South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
"I thought you were smarter than that."
"You'll ruin your health."
"Don't lose any more."

And on and on and on. What is it, jealousy? What ever happened to support
and encouragement. I'm a 65 year old woman with a genius IQ, since when am I
not allowed to make my own decisions?

The comments I get from people some times are not in the spirit of trying to
help, they are just nasty comments intended to put me down.

I've gotten to the point that I don't hardly mention my weight loss or
eating choices any more. Screw 'em.

A girl after my own heart. It's nobody's business but yours. I'm
taking a lot of flak because I'm going to a clinic that closely
monitors my weight (3 times a week) and gives me a shot in the ass.
The diet is low-carb and I KNOW I could do it on my own without the
shots if I had any willpower. The fact is, I can make more excuses for
myself than anybody, so I pays the money and I goes every other day.
It's working for me and I'll continute to go until it isn't.

I didn't even tell anybody for the first month because I knew what the
reaction would be - but when they started noticing that I was losing
and started asking what I was doing - I told them. I shoulda just kept
my mouth shut, because apparently this healthy food plan I'm following
is going to be the death of me. The protein, vegetables and fruit will
send me to an early grave. I should be eating bread and cereal for
gawd's sake!!!

Keep on doin' what you're doin'. And you're right - Screw 'em.

Lybbe
Highest Weight - 308
Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
Today's weight - 219.0
Goal - 150

People are stupid. Just look at some of the other things they do, the bad
decisions they make in their lives. They are too lazy to do research and
think for themselves, they believe the propaganda that they are constantly
bombarded with by the news media and a good portion of the medical
community.

In news:[email hidden],
Jean Staffen <[email hidden]> stated
| I swear to God, I think people have gone nuts. Everyday, there is a
| show on TV or radio about how America has become too fat. I do demos
| in grocery stores in and around Austin, Tx and all people do is eat.
| Yet, the low carb method is working for millions of people. I've
| lost 40 lbs, lowered my cholesterol and feel good. I see fantastic
| weight loss reported on this NG everyday.
|
| Yet I keep getting comments like these:
|
| "You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
| "Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and ice
| cream, huh?)
| "South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
| "I thought you were smarter than that."
| "You'll ruin your health."
| "Don't lose any more."
|
| And on and on and on. What is it, jealousy? What ever happened to
| support and encouragement. I'm a 65 year old woman with a genius IQ,
| since when am I not allowed to make my own decisions?
|
| The comments I get from people some times are not in the spirit of
| trying to help, they are just nasty comments intended to put me down.
|
| I've gotten to the point that I don't hardly mention my weight loss or
| eating choices any more. Screw 'em.

No, Atkins is eating LC, but not all eating LC is Atkins. As certain people
on this group often remind us, if you don't follow Atkins'
program--induction followed by 5 gram increments, you are LCing but you are
not doing Atkins.

In news:[email hidden],
Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
|
| Eating LC is Atkins.
|

You are running into a sociological phenomenon. People believe a lot of
things that are far from true. I suspect that most people will never
consider the possibility that the food they imprinted on in their youth
might be improper. To believe you are right would require them to believe
they are wrong.

Once one passes the weights of others (on the way down), one is no longer
the person needing help. I miss the great support I got during my first 50
pounds. I still get some support, but it is a tiny fraction of what it used
to be.

Your feelings, about the people who actively discourage you, are justified.

Cubit
311/208/165

"Jean Staffen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

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I swear to God, I think people have gone nuts. Everyday, there is a show

on

Quoted message said:

TV or radio about how America has become too fat. I do demos in grocery
stores in and around Austin, Tx and all people do is eat. Yet, the low

carb

Quoted message said:

method is working for millions of people. I've lost 40 lbs, lowered my
cholesterol and feel good. I see fantastic weight loss reported on this

NG

Quoted message said:

everyday.

Yet I keep getting comments like these:

"You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
"Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and ice

cream,

Quoted message said:

huh?)
"South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
"I thought you were smarter than that."
"You'll ruin your health."
"Don't lose any more."

And on and on and on. What is it, jealousy? What ever happened to

support

Quoted message said:

and encouragement. I'm a 65 year old woman with a genius IQ, since when am

I

Quoted message said:

not allowed to make my own decisions?

The comments I get from people some times are not in the spirit of trying

to

Quoted message said:

help, they are just nasty comments intended to put me down.

I've gotten to the point that I don't hardly mention my weight loss or
eating choices any more. Screw 'em.

Hi, Jean,

I am just wondering if negative comments about a diet could be a mix
of jealousy with social flattery. For example, a message such as
"Atkins is very unhealthy" could be easily interpreted (by me) as
"Sure, you look better than I do, but I justify my being fat by
arguing that Low Carb will kill me". A message such as "You've lost
weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?" is another example of
above interpretation.

A message like "Don't lose any more" is actually double sided. On
the one hand it implies flatter such as "You've succeeded, so you can
stop now", but on the other hand it could mean "Stop, or else you'll
look better than all of us".

For the most part, people who make such comments are themselves
overweight. By putting your lifestyle down, they are justifying
theirs. It's a defense mechanism on their end. And keeping your WOE
private is probably the best way to avoid conflicts.

Just my 2 cents.
Elana

"Jean Staffen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

I swear to God, I think people have gone nuts. Everyday, there is a show on
TV or radio about how America has become too fat. I do demos in grocery
stores in and around Austin, Tx and all people do is eat. Yet, the low carb
method is working for millions of people. I've lost 40 lbs, lowered my
cholesterol and feel good. I see fantastic weight loss reported on this NG
everyday.

Yet I keep getting comments like these:

"You've lost weight, sure, but what is it doing to you?"
"Atkins is very unhealthy." (guess I need more cookies, cakes and ice cream,
huh?)
"South Beach is healthier than Atkins."
"I thought you were smarter than that."
"You'll ruin your health."
"Don't lose any more."

And on and on and on. What is it, jealousy? What ever happened to support
and encouragement. I'm a 65 year old woman with a genius IQ, since when am I
not allowed to make my own decisions?

The comments I get from people some times are not in the spirit of trying to
help, they are just nasty comments intended to put me down.

I've gotten to the point that I don't hardly mention my weight loss or
eating choices any more. Screw 'em.

FOB wrote:
:: No, Atkins is eating LC, but not all eating LC is Atkins. As
:: certain people on this group often remind us, if you don't follow
:: Atkins' program--induction followed by 5 gram increments, you are
:: LCing but you are not doing Atkins.

I refuse to accept that in order to do atkins you have to do induction for
two weeks and then find your CCL. If Atkins is a for life WOE, why then
should it be defined by a mere several weeks? By and large, Atkins is about
eating LC to control weight, diabetes, etc. If you follow the plan for life,
you'll end up simply eating a LC life style. You'd have been believe that I
should say that I'm doing Aktins now because several years ago I spent two
weeks doing induction and then incrementing carbs by 5 grams a week.
Horsepucky.

In here, we tell noobs who are screwing up and blaming their screw ups on
atkins that they didn't get results because they didn't follow the plan.
That's usually true. But to define Atkins in such a narrow way does a
disservice to what Atkins was/is (man/diet plan) all about - controling
carb intake to benefit health.

IMO, anyone figures out their food intolerances and limits carbs to control
weight and diabetics is effectively doing Atkins. Atkins himself may
disagree, but it's still my opinion 🙂

::
:: In news:[email hidden],
:: Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
:::
::: Eating LC is Atkins.