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  1. Getting There is Half the Fun! This new commuting art design
    embroidered patch is now available! It incorporates the social
    aspects, health, and vitality of many of the creative modes of
    Alternative Transportation. Encourage others to LEAVE THE CAR
    AT HOME! The 4"W x 5-1/2"H size is great for a shirt, jacket,
    purse,pannier, sleeve, etc. See all the Alternative
    Transportation Make-a-Statement products at:

    http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/
    ----
    Jim Gagnepain

  2. oilfreeandhappy said:

    Getting There is Half the Fun! This new commuting art design
    embroidered patch is now available! It incorporates the social
    aspects, health, and vitality of many of the creative modes of
    Alternative Transportation. Encourage others to LEAVE THE CAR
    AT HOME! The 4"W x 5-1/2"H size is great for a shirt, jacket,
    purse,pannier, sleeve, etc. See all the Alternative
    Transportation Make-a-Statement products at:

    http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/
    ----
    Jim Gagnepain

    Not trying to be pissy Jim, but what are you doing to make riding
    safer, road/lane/path wise? Always the #1 reason people don't ride
    more is no safe place to ride. Saying leave the car home is fine but
    if it's one vs many on the roadway with cars, don't expect many to
    ride a bike.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Not trying to be pissy Jim, but what are you doing to make riding
    safer, road/lane/path wise? Always the #1 reason people don't ride
    more is no safe place to ride. Saying leave the car home is fine but
    if it's one vs many on the roadway with cars, don't expect many to
    ride a bike.

    No problem. It's a good question, and a fair one. However, I don't
    believe
    this is the number one reason. I believe that convenience (or
    laziness,
    depending on your outlook), may be a bigger reason. I've had people
    tell
    me that safety is their excuse for not cycling, but when I press the
    issue,
    I find out they've never even tried road cycling or commuting.
    They're
    hopelessly addicted to their cars.

    As far as safety goes, however, it's number ONE in my book. I've
    spoken
    to 3 different riders in the last 2 days, who came on the Metrolink in
    St. Louis with their
    bikes. It was dark, and none of them had any lights. One of them
    mentioned that
    he was riding the Ragbrai this summer. Crazy - you'd think he knows
    better. I told
    each of them that they should have a reflector, as a minimum.

    I always look for opportunities to talk SAFETY to riders. The more
    people who
    see cyclists riding safely, the more people who will consider cycling.

    I'm also a member of Bike Fort Collins and PEDAL (Loveland). I
    volunteer for
    activities, and occassionally attend City Council meetings to talk
    bicycle
    infrastructure, etc.

    I am currently on work assignment in St. Louis for a few weeks. I'm
    riding a folder
    down a busy street (Broadway) each morning, and using the new bike
    lane in a
    correct manner - I see so many who don't use it properly. So that
    would be a
    3rd response - examplary riding.
    -----
    Jim Gagnepain
    http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/

  4. "oilfreeandhappy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    As far as safety goes, however, it's number ONE in my book. I've
    spoken
    to 3 different riders in the last 2 days, who came on the Metrolink in
    St. Louis with their
    bikes. It was dark, and none of them had any lights. One of them
    mentioned that
    he was riding the Ragbrai this summer. Crazy - you'd think he knows
    better. I told
    each of them that they should have a reflector, as a minimum.

    Please NEVER tell someone that a reflector is good for anything. Reflectors
    and almost always out of the line of headlights and especially now that
    headlights are far more accurately focused on the road and not on the
    shoulder.

    Night riding is NEVER good without battery or generator powered lights and
    today's LED lamps are extremely cheap, efficient and long battery life.

    If you want to be dead - ride at night without lights. I believe that
    something like 80% of all bicycle fatalities occur in reduced visibility
    conditions.

  5. oilfreeandhappy said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not trying to be pissy Jim, but what are you doing to make riding
    safer, road/lane/path wise? Always the #1 reason people don't ride
    more is no safe place to ride. Saying leave the car home is fine but
    if it's one vs many on the roadway with cars, don't expect many to
    ride a bike.

    No problem. It's a good question, and a fair one. However, I don't
    believe
    this is the number one reason. I believe that convenience (or
    laziness,
    depending on your outlook), may be a bigger reason. I've had people
    tell
    me that safety is their excuse for not cycling, but when I press the
    issue,
    I find out they've never even tried road cycling or commuting.
    They're
    hopelessly addicted to their cars.

    As far as safety goes, however, it's number ONE in my book. I've
    spoken
    to 3 different riders in the last 2 days, who came on the Metrolink in
    St. Louis with their
    bikes. It was dark, and none of them had any lights. One of them
    mentioned that
    he was riding the Ragbrai this summer. Crazy - you'd think he knows
    better. I told
    each of them that they should have a reflector, as a minimum.

    I always look for opportunities to talk SAFETY to riders. The more
    people who
    see cyclists riding safely, the more people who will consider cycling.

    I'm also a member of Bike Fort Collins and PEDAL (Loveland). I
    volunteer for
    activities, and occassionally attend City Council meetings to talk
    bicycle
    infrastructure, etc.

    I am currently on work assignment in St. Louis for a few weeks. I'm
    riding a folder
    down a busy street (Broadway) each morning, and using the new bike
    lane in a
    correct manner - I see so many who don't use it properly. So that
    would be a
    3rd response - examplary riding.
    -----
    Jim Gagnepainhttp://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/

    I didn't think so either but Ray Keener, who owns GrowthCycle showed
    me a study that ranked lack of a safe place to ride as the number 1 of
    10 reasons people don't ride more or at all. Some places have ways to
    co habitate with autos but mostly it's just a share proposition. Cycle
    lanes is what is needed(NOT multiuse paths), on all paved streets in
    the US, but that ain'y gonna happen. Ain't gonna happen even with $6-
    $8 per gallon gas. Multiuse paths are easier to sell to get the $, but
    as a bicycle transportation 'system' it fails.

    What is going to make these things happen? I sure don't know.

  6. I wholeheartedly agree. I did mean a battery powered reflector
    light. Excuse me for not mentioning
    this. I had 2 LED lights with me at the time, and demonstrated them
    to the other riders, so they
    knew what I meant.

    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    "oilfreeandhappy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    As far as safety goes, however, it's number ONE in my book. I've
    spoken
    to 3 different riders in the last 2 days, who came on the Metrolink in
    St. Louis with their
    bikes. It was dark, and none of them had any lights. One of them
    mentioned that
    he was riding the Ragbrai this summer. Crazy - you'd think he knows
    better. I told
    each of them that they should have a reflector, as a minimum.

    Please NEVER tell someone that a reflector is good for anything. Reflectors
    and almost always out of the line of headlights and especially now that
    headlights are far more accurately focused on the road and not on the
    shoulder.

    Night riding is NEVER good without battery or generator powered lights and
    today's LED lamps are extremely cheap, efficient and long battery life.

    If you want to be dead - ride at night without lights. I believe that
    something like 80% of all bicycle fatalities occur in reduced visibility
    conditions.

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