getting old

Jacques Mercier said:

I have been diagnosed with high blood pressure and will start a medication
today. I usually run three times a week, 62, 42 and 42 minutes. Should I
diminish my running or just go on. Any advice? Thanks in advance

Keep going. The hypertension meds will possibly make you slower, but you'll
just have to live with that for a little while. If you're overweight, dropping
20lb or so will do wonders for your blood pressure, and if you keep running,
you may be able to get off the meds, which is good because hypertension meds
are nasty.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

"Jacques Mercier" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I have been diagnosed with high blood pressure and will start a medication
today. I usually run three times a week, 62, 42 and 42 minutes. Should I
diminish my running or just go on. Any advice? Thanks in advance
Jacques

Why would you want to cut back?

What you may find though is that your medication may affect your ability to
run. If it does, don't be afraid to go back to your doctor and tell him/her
how it's affecting you and ask for an alternative. There are many different
treatments for hypertension, all with different side-effect profiles so with
luck, you'll get one that suits you.

Tim
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Remove the *obvious* to reply by mail

I take fosinopril for high b/p and have for years, I run 50 minutes (5 miles)
four times a week and it hasn't changed my routine at all. I recently started
meds for high cholesterol also and don't anticipate any problems with it. I'm
not fat, don't smoke, don't drink and exercise but still developed high b/p and
chol. The doc says its in the genes. I really think some passionate female
companionship once a week or so after one of my runs would help tremendously
but so far I haven't managed to swing that. Still looking 8-)

Jacques Mercier said:

I have been diagnosed with high blood pressure and will start a medication
today. I usually run three times a week, 62, 42 and 42 minutes. Should I
diminish my running or just go on. Any advice? Thanks in advance
Jacques

Most people on this newsgroup don't post their age. Perhaps because
almost all of you are 'young' (under 50?) and healthy, so age isn't
very relevant. But you refer to 'getting old' and then cite blood
pressure meds, so I'll chip my 2 cents:

Little history: after some aerobics classes convinced me that my feet
and knees could tolerate a little running, I got my usual attack of
over-enthusiasm and overdid. I would monitor my pulse after I stopped
jogging. On the treadmill I would emply a 'cool down' for a minute of
walking at 3.5mph, then take my pulse.

Then, the day after I fell off the damn treadmill (too bad I didn't
hear about that lady who got a million bucks for this trick) I started
getting dizzy when I arose from sitting. With hindsight, I guess this
was mild vertigo, but me and my doctor both suspected
heart/circulation. He sent me to cardiologist, stress test,
bradycardia, yadda yadda. After internet research I convinced myself
that my mild hypothyroid was causing low heartbeat, thus dizziness,
and dosed myself with iodine meds. This made me worse. Eventually the
vertigo almost completely disappeared, on it's own.

ANYWAY some where in the course of this fiasco I purchased a heart
monitor, the point of this rant. I discovered that, as you all
probably know, that your heart slows QUICKLY when you cease to run and
checking it after a cool-down is inaccurate in the extreme. I found I
had been exceeding my advisable maximum heart rate routinely in my
trots. More alarming was the fact that at this higher rate I would
experience irregular beats.

I have a neurologist (who IS a runner - marathons) that pooh-poohs my
findings, saying that electrical interference at the YMCA accounts for
these HM anomalies. However they always seem to occur when my heart is
very close to its advisable max rate. So I think he is wrong.

I've noticed more of these irregular beats after taking pills - over
the counter Allieve, say. A few beers the AFTERNOON BEFORE has an
effect on my pulse the next morning when I take my little run!

So if you're concerned about running while on meds, I'd suggest buying
a $50 HM. Maybe your pulse rate doesn't tell much of the story, but it
shows irregular beats, and it shows if you are exceeding your target
heart rate, as I was.
Oh, I'm 69.
Earl

Quoted message said:

I have been diagnosed with high blood pressure and will start a medication
today. I usually run three times a week, 62, 42 and 42 minutes. Should I
diminish my running or just go on. Any advice? Thanks in advance
Jacques

=======
I am 61 and also just was diagnosed with high blood pressure. I am going to
keep running. My doc said it wasn't a problem but would probably help.

Jack

Quoted message said:

So if you're concerned about running while on meds, I'd suggest buying
a $50 HM. Maybe your pulse rate doesn't tell much of the story, but it
shows irregular beats, and it shows if you are exceeding your target
heart rate, as I was.

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This doesn't ring quite true to me. First, my hr monitor does not show
irregular beats. It counts the time between beats over several seconds (I think
over 5 seconds.) and then averages them. I think all monitors do it this way.
Second, obtaining your max hr from which you figure your target heart rate is
problematic if you use published tables. You have to either run several 400m's
or a 5 K or their equivelent to measure you max hr. I use a hr monitor and find
it useful but have been using one for over 15 years. ( I don't use it every
run.)

jack

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So if you're concerned about running while on meds, I'd suggest buying
a $50 HM. Maybe your pulse rate doesn't tell much of the story, but it
shows irregular beats, and it shows if you are exceeding your target
heart rate, as I was.

---------
This doesn't ring quite true to me. First, my hr monitor does not show
irregular beats. It counts the time between beats over several seconds (I
thinkover 5 seconds.) and then averages them. I think all monitors do it this

way.

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Second, obtaining your max hr from which you figure your target heart rate is
problematic if you use published tables. You have to either run several
400m's or a 5 K or their equivelent to measure you max hr. I use a hr monitor

and

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find
it useful but have been using one for over 15 years. ( I don't use it every
run.)

=====
I would like to correct my statement above. The visual display of a hr monitor
does average and does not note irrigular heart beats. But, a beep might. In my
case I have found it is due to poor connections with my skin as well as
electrical interference.

jack

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hypertension meds
are nasty.
Cheers,
Donovan Rebbechi

How so? I only ask out of curiousity as I've been taking one for several
years. I'm not overweight, exericse, don't smoke or drink and all that but
have never been able to keep the b/p down without meds. A problem that only
developed later in life.

Bethowmuch said:

Quoted message said:

hypertension meds
are nasty.
Cheers,
Donovan Rebbechi

How so? I only ask out of curiousity as I've been taking one for several
years.

I know a runner who used to take them. They substantially influenced running
performance.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Quoted message said:

I have been diagnosed with high blood pressure and will start a

medication

Quoted message said:

today. I usually run three times a week, 62, 42 and 42 minutes. Should

I

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diminish my running or just go on. Any advice? Thanks in advance

Ask your cardiologist!!!
-DF

(Jackhat1) said:

I would like to correct my statement above. The visual display of a hr
monitor does average and does not note irrigular heart beats. But, a
beep might. In my case I have found it is due to poor connections with
my skin as well as electrical interference.

Once in a while the humidity will drop and my HRM will get some
interference. Electrode conductivity gel seems to help a lot.

http://www.heartmonitors.com/lectronII.htm

Phil M.

(Jackhat1) said:

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So if you're concerned about running while on meds, I'd suggest buying
a $50 HM. Maybe your pulse rate doesn't tell much of the story, but it
shows irregular beats, and it shows if you are exceeding your target
heart rate, as I was.

---------
This doesn't ring quite true to me. First, my hr monitor does not show
irregular beats. It counts the time between beats over several seconds (I think
over 5 seconds.) and then averages them. I think all monitors do it this way.

<snip>

Yes, it's not quite true. I should have said the monitor receiver
built into the PreCor treadmill I'm currently using displays wildly
varying rates at the point of what I am calling irregular beats. If my
heart is at 130 it may say 157 suddenly. When I look at the receiver
on my wrist at that point it may say 112. And it may say 112 for an
abnormal length of time, while the PreCor is, again, already
displaying a reading around 130 again.

So the only indication this Polar HM would give me if I was running on
the street would be, maybe, a sudden drop in pulse rate. At any rate
it would be an indication of sorts.

Perhaps a better suggestion might have been use a treadmill with a
heart monitor built into it for a testing period when he starts the
drug therapy?

Yes, I do believe those charts. I'm not a serious runner. I'm
attempting a little cause my shoulder precludes lap swimming.
Hopefully temporarily. The charts tell me I should not exercise at
greater than 128. I generally back off when I hit 133.
Earl

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Quoted message said:

I have been diagnosed with high blood pressure and will start a medication
today. I usually run three times a week, 62, 42 and 42 minutes. Should I
diminish my running or just go on. Any advice? Thanks in advance
Jacques

=======
I am 61 and also just was diagnosed with high blood pressure. I am going to
keep running. My doc said it wasn't a problem but would probably help.

Jack

61! No wonder you are such a rightwing conservative nut.

MWL

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Bethowmuch said:

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hypertension meds
are nasty.
Cheers,
Donovan Rebbechi

How so? I only ask out of curiousity as I've been taking one for

several

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years.

I know a runner who used to take them. They substantially influenced

running

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performance.

And you are a rare person whose hypertension is treated with just one
medication. Google this group for "Running on statins" for discussions of
some of the effects.

Keep running!
Matthew

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Yes, I do believe those charts. I'm not a serious runner. I'm
attempting a little cause my shoulder precludes lap swimming.
Hopefully temporarily. The charts tell me I should not exercise at
greater than 128. I generally back off when I hit 133.

===
Earl,

Just to give you something to think about, I am 61. I usually set my HRM to
beep when it is below 125. I'm not in good shape now and just started taking
high blood pressure medication so am taking it very carefully. I set my upper
limit as 150 bpm. Everyone is different.

Jack

My post has achieved its goal: I had my wife read all your post and now she
will be much less worried about my jogging.
Thanks to all
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I have been diagnosed with high blood pressure and will start a medication
today. I usually run three times a week, 62, 42 and 42 minutes. Should I
diminish my running or just go on. Any advice? Thanks in advance
Jacques

Thanks.
Tonight I had my usual thursday night run and all went well. I was 15
seconds faster; non significant especilly that it was 13 degreee celcius.
Overweight? yes in a sense I am 23 pounds heavier than when I started
exercising 8 years ago but I think it is mostly muscles.
"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
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Jacques Mercier said:

I have been diagnosed with high blood pressure and will start a

medication

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today. I usually run three times a week, 62, 42 and 42 minutes. Should I
diminish my running or just go on. Any advice? Thanks in advance

Keep going. The hypertension meds will possibly make you slower, but

you'll

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just have to live with that for a little while. If you're overweight,

dropping

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20lb or so will do wonders for your blood pressure, and if you keep

running,

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you may be able to get off the meds, which is good because hypertension

meds

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are nasty.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Oh I do not have any intentions of cutting back I plan to run for another
century
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I have been diagnosed with high blood pressure and will start a

medication

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today. I usually run three times a week, 62, 42 and 42 minutes. Should I
diminish my running or just go on. Any advice? Thanks in advance
Jacques

Why would you want to cut back?

What you may find though is that your medication may affect your ability

to

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run. If it does, don't be afraid to go back to your doctor and tell

him/her

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how it's affecting you and ask for an alternative. There are many

different

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treatments for hypertension, all with different side-effect profiles so

with

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luck, you'll get one that suits you.

Tim
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I am 56 but always think of myself as a young man.
As a matter of fact I have been using a Polar for the past 8 years. Tonight
my usual running went all right. One surprising fact however: my pulse
average was 127 compared to the more or less 144 for an almost equivalent
time.
I wonder if it will be the same next time.
By the way one little pill and thhis afternoon my pressure was120/80. I am
very surprised
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Jacques Mercier said:

I have been diagnosed with high blood pressure and will start a

medication

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today. I usually run three times a week, 62, 42 and 42 minutes. Should I
diminish my running or just go on. Any advice? Thanks in advance
Jacques

Most people on this newsgroup don't post their age. Perhaps because
almost all of you are 'young' (under 50?) and healthy, so age isn't
very relevant. But you refer to 'getting old' and then cite blood
pressure meds, so I'll chip my 2 cents:

Little history: after some aerobics classes convinced me that my feet
and knees could tolerate a little running, I got my usual attack of
over-enthusiasm and overdid. I would monitor my pulse after I stopped
jogging. On the treadmill I would emply a 'cool down' for a minute of
walking at 3.5mph, then take my pulse.

Then, the day after I fell off the damn treadmill (too bad I didn't
hear about that lady who got a million bucks for this trick) I started
getting dizzy when I arose from sitting. With hindsight, I guess this
was mild vertigo, but me and my doctor both suspected
heart/circulation. He sent me to cardiologist, stress test,
bradycardia, yadda yadda. After internet research I convinced myself
that my mild hypothyroid was causing low heartbeat, thus dizziness,
and dosed myself with iodine meds. This made me worse. Eventually the
vertigo almost completely disappeared, on it's own.

ANYWAY some where in the course of this fiasco I purchased a heart
monitor, the point of this rant. I discovered that, as you all
probably know, that your heart slows QUICKLY when you cease to run and
checking it after a cool-down is inaccurate in the extreme. I found I
had been exceeding my advisable maximum heart rate routinely in my
trots. More alarming was the fact that at this higher rate I would
experience irregular beats.

I have a neurologist (who IS a runner - marathons) that pooh-poohs my
findings, saying that electrical interference at the YMCA accounts for
these HM anomalies. However they always seem to occur when my heart is
very close to its advisable max rate. So I think he is wrong.

I've noticed more of these irregular beats after taking pills - over
the counter Allieve, say. A few beers the AFTERNOON BEFORE has an
effect on my pulse the next morning when I take my little run!

So if you're concerned about running while on meds, I'd suggest buying
a $50 HM. Maybe your pulse rate doesn't tell much of the story, but it
shows irregular beats, and it shows if you are exceeding your target
heart rate, as I was.
Oh, I'm 69.
Earl