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  1. Hi all,

    I have lately started lifting weights and following a healthy diet
    (Willett: the kind of fat/protein/carbs is more important than the
    amount/ratio)
    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    Because of this I started wondering how much protein I consume every
    day comparing them to how much protein I *should" consume.

    Since I'm trying to grow muscles I want to eat more protein than
    usually recommended and I aim for 1.5g/kg/day which would be for me 83
    grams of protein
    I realized in spite of what I've been told it is really hard to get
    enough proteins, the problem is that many foods that are high in
    calories and fill you up quickly don't provide much protein.

    For example 100g of fish is just 15g of protein
    100g of chicken is just 20g of protein
    Two glasses of milk 6 grams of protein
    This is just 41g but already a good amount of calories and bulk
    Add an egg? That's just 6g protein more of protein
    Two eggs? Just 12, so it is just 53g
    50 grams of beans with a salad? That's just 5 grams of protein
    A serving of whole spaghetti with sauce is just 9 grams

    The problem then is that many calories in the diet come from extra
    virgin olive oil that is devoid of protein.
    So when I've already consumed enough calories and filled my stomach to
    its max, the amount of protein consumed is still lower than what I
    should aim for.

    Who said that getting enough protein is easy?!
    It is not!

    I hope someone can help me with my predicament
    Thank You

    P.S
    I know I will be probably suggested to take protein powder but the
    thought that we can't get enough protein from food alone unless we
    stuff our stomach till it explodes or consume a 5.000 calories daily
    diet frustrates me.
    Aren't we supposed to be naturally fit and muscular (if it wasn't for a
    sedentary life) ? how we did it before protein powder was created?

    J. David

  2. "Jimmy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I have lately started lifting weights and following a healthy diet
    (Willett: the kind of fat/protein/carbs is more important than the
    amount/ratio)
    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    Because of this I started wondering how much protein I consume every
    day comparing them to how much protein I *should" consume.

    Since I'm trying to grow muscles I want to eat more protein than
    usually recommended and I aim for 1.5g/kg/day which would be for me 83
    grams of protein
    I realized in spite of what I've been told it is really hard to get
    enough proteins, the problem is that many foods that are high in
    calories and fill you up quickly don't provide much protein.

    For example 100g of fish is just 15g of protein
    100g of chicken is just 20g of protein
    Two glasses of milk 6 grams of protein
    This is just 41g but already a good amount of calories and bulk
    Add an egg? That's just 6g protein more of protein
    Two eggs? Just 12, so it is just 53g
    50 grams of beans with a salad? That's just 5 grams of protein
    A serving of whole spaghetti with sauce is just 9 grams

    The problem then is that many calories in the diet come from extra
    virgin olive oil that is devoid of protein.
    So when I've already consumed enough calories and filled my stomach to
    its max, the amount of protein consumed is still lower than what I
    should aim for.

    Who said that getting enough protein is easy?!
    It is not!

    I hope someone can help me with my predicament
    Thank You

    P.S
    I know I will be probably suggested to take protein powder but the
    thought that we can't get enough protein from food alone unless we
    stuff our stomach till it explodes or consume a 5.000 calories daily
    diet frustrates me.
    Aren't we supposed to be naturally fit and muscular (if it wasn't for a
    sedentary life) ? how we did it before protein powder was created?

    J. David

    you should be able to eat 1 lb (400 gms) of chicken/meat/fish per day -
    that gives you approx 100 gms of protein right there. - - say 30 almonds is
    another 12 gms - 3 slices of a good quality bread is 15 grms. - so there
    you have nearly 130 gms of protein right there.

  3. Jimmy wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I have lately started lifting weights and following a healthy diet
    (Willett: the kind of fat/protein/carbs is more important than the
    amount/ratio)
    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    Because of this I started wondering how much protein I consume every
    day comparing them to how much protein I *should" consume.

    Since I'm trying to grow muscles I want to eat more protein than
    usually recommended and I aim for 1.5g/kg/day which would be for me 83
    grams of protein
    I realized in spite of what I've been told it is really hard to get
    enough proteins, the problem is that many foods that are high in
    calories and fill you up quickly don't provide much protein.

    For example 100g of fish is just 15g of protein
    100g of chicken is just 20g of protein
    Two glasses of milk 6 grams of protein
    This is just 41g but already a good amount of calories and bulk
    Add an egg? That's just 6g protein more of protein
    Two eggs? Just 12, so it is just 53g
    50 grams of beans with a salad? That's just 5 grams of protein
    A serving of whole spaghetti with sauce is just 9 grams

    The problem then is that many calories in the diet come from extra
    virgin olive oil that is devoid of protein.
    So when I've already consumed enough calories and filled my stomach to
    its max, the amount of protein consumed is still lower than what I
    should aim for.

    Who said that getting enough protein is easy?!
    It is not!

    I hope someone can help me with my predicament
    Thank You

    P.S
    I know I will be probably suggested to take protein powder but the
    thought that we can't get enough protein from food alone unless we
    stuff our stomach till it explodes or consume a 5.000 calories daily
    diet frustrates me.
    Aren't we supposed to be naturally fit and muscular (if it wasn't for a
    sedentary life) ? how we did it before protein powder was created?

    J. David

    You can get it from food like David suggested. Depends how busy your
    lifestyle is. I sometimes find it hard to have time to eat lots while at
    work and often let the fridge at home run low. As some of the blokes
    suggested here I have picked up some whey protein powder and never looked
    back. Quick and easy. I just make morning shake using whey protein powder,
    low fat milk and add other stuff like banana and wheat germ?

    Mike

  4. Quoted message said:

    Because of this I started wondering how much protein I consume every


    day comparing them to how much protein I *should" consume.>

    Most of the [censored] around here just swallow, that's plenty of protein.

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jimmy said:

    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    At 5'9" (or 5.9', 5'10.8"😉 and 121 lbs, you need to put on some weight
    before the wind takes you.

    Seth
    --
    Don't ever masturbate after getting capsaicin on your hands. -- Patrick Arnold

  6. cans of tuna are cheap and offer 32 g per serving...i take em to work
    all the time(much to the chagrin of my coworkers, as i eat it straight
    out of the can in the office)

  7. "mike avera" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    cans of tuna are cheap and offer 32 g per serving...i take em to work
    all the time(much to the chagrin of my coworkers, as i eat it straight
    out of the can in the office)

    What you are doing could be referred to as 'mercury loading'. Good luck

  8. Quoting Jimmy:

    Quoted message said:

    I have lately started lifting weights and following a healthy diet
    (Willett: the kind of fat/protein/carbs is more important than the
    amount/ratio)

    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    At your age/height/weight, I'd like to suggest you're not seeing
    yourself clearly unless you've really got one strange-ass build. What
    are your waist, chest, and neck measurements?

    Whichever it is, suggestions would be the same:

    Eat more, lift hard and heavy, get plenty of rest. Rinse and repeat.
    Be consistent. You will gain both muscle and scale weight (as you
    should at your low weight), if you're eating enough.

    Looking for easy to prepare sources of protein? Pick up a couple or
    three turkey breast roasts a week or some chicken breast.

    Learn to do marinades, stir frys, salads to keep it interesting.

    A little red meat and dairy wouldn't hurt either.

    Quoted message said:

    100g of chicken is just 20g of protein

    USDA food database - Chicken, broilers or fryers, breast, meat only,
    cooked, roasted - 165 calories, 31.02 g protein. I think the fat
    free, sliced entry may be closer to what you quoted, but in any case,
    100g of meat just isn't that much. Barely a snack.

    Quoted message said:

    Since I'm trying to grow muscles I want to eat more protein than
    usually recommended and I aim for 1.5g/kg/day which would be for me 83
    grams of protein

    Try at least 1g per pound of body weight instead.
    In your place, I'd probably shoot for about 150-180g protein/day.

    Quoted message said:

    I realized in spite of what I've been told it is really hard to get
    enough proteins, the problem is that many foods that are high in
    calories and fill you up quickly don't provide much protein.

    Look, to put on some muscle at your size, you're going to need to eat
    some calories.

    Even if your belly is a tad large, you're just shooting yourself in
    the foot by focusing on that one body part. I promise you that you
    notice your waist much more than other people do, if they even notice
    it at all. Build up the rest of your body*; please don't fixate on
    that one part.

    * Including back and legs, not just chest and arms. Everything.

  9. "Suze" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Quoting Jimmy:

    Quoted message said:

    I have lately started lifting weights and following a healthy diet
    (Willett: the kind of fat/protein/carbs is more important than the
    amount/ratio)

    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    At your age/height/weight, I'd like to suggest you're not seeing
    yourself clearly unless you've really got one strange-ass build. What
    are your waist, chest, and neck measurements?

    Whichever it is, suggestions would be the same:

    Eat more, lift hard and heavy, get plenty of rest. Rinse and repeat.
    Be consistent. You will gain both muscle and scale weight (as you
    should at your low weight), if you're eating enough.

    Looking for easy to prepare sources of protein? Pick up a couple or
    three turkey breast roasts a week or some chicken breast.

    Learn to do marinades, stir frys, salads to keep it interesting.

    A little red meat and dairy wouldn't hurt either.

    Quoted message said:

    100g of chicken is just 20g of protein

    USDA food database - Chicken, broilers or fryers, breast, meat only,
    cooked, roasted - 165 calories, 31.02 g protein. I think the fat
    free, sliced entry may be closer to what you quoted, but in any case,
    100g of meat just isn't that much. Barely a snack.

    Quoted message said:

    Since I'm trying to grow muscles I want to eat more protein than
    usually recommended and I aim for 1.5g/kg/day which would be for me 83
    grams of protein

    Try at least 1g per pound of body weight instead.
    In your place, I'd probably shoot for about 150-180g protein/day.

    Quoted message said:

    I realized in spite of what I've been told it is really hard to get
    enough proteins, the problem is that many foods that are high in
    calories and fill you up quickly don't provide much protein.

    Look, to put on some muscle at your size, you're going to need to eat
    some calories.

    Even if your belly is a tad large, you're just shooting yourself in
    the foot by focusing on that one body part. I promise you that you
    notice your waist much more than other people do, if they even notice
    it at all. Build up the rest of your body*; please don't fixate on
    that one part.

    * Including back and legs, not just chest and arms. Everything.

    that's good advice Suze. you're pretty smart (for a girl)

  10. Quoting David:

    Quoted message said:

    that's good advice Suze. you're pretty smart (for a girl)

    Thanks!
    You're generally pretty pithy and amusing (for a guy).

  11. "Suze" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Quoting David:

    Quoted message said:

    that's good advice Suze. you're pretty smart (for a girl)

    Thanks!
    You're generally pretty pithy and amusing (for a guy).

    LOL! (Thanks for the nice compliment - I don't get many!)

  12. "Jimmy" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1120694252.053153.168920
    @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I have lately started lifting weights and following a healthy diet
    (Willett: the kind of fat/protein/carbs is more important than the
    amount/ratio)
    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    Because of this I started wondering how much protein I consume every
    day comparing them to how much protein I *should" consume.

    Since I'm trying to grow muscles I want to eat more protein than
    usually recommended and I aim for 1.5g/kg/day which would be for me 83
    grams of protein
    I realized in spite of what I've been told it is really hard to get
    enough proteins, the problem is that many foods that are high in
    calories and fill you up quickly don't provide much protein.

    For example 100g of fish is just 15g of protein
    100g of chicken is just 20g of protein
    Two glasses of milk 6 grams of protein
    This is just 41g but already a good amount of calories and bulk
    Add an egg? That's just 6g protein more of protein
    Two eggs? Just 12, so it is just 53g
    50 grams of beans with a salad? That's just 5 grams of protein
    A serving of whole spaghetti with sauce is just 9 grams

    The problem then is that many calories in the diet come from extra
    virgin olive oil that is devoid of protein.
    So when I've already consumed enough calories and filled my stomach to
    its max, the amount of protein consumed is still lower than what I
    should aim for.

    Who said that getting enough protein is easy?!
    It is not!

    I hope someone can help me with my predicament
    Thank You

    P.S
    I know I will be probably suggested to take protein powder but the
    thought that we can't get enough protein from food alone unless we
    stuff our stomach till it explodes or consume a 5.000 calories daily
    diet frustrates me.
    Aren't we supposed to be naturally fit and muscular (if it wasn't for a
    sedentary life) ? how we did it before protein powder was created?

    J. David

    First, no 17-year-old guy has any business using a phrase like "extra-
    virgin olive oil". Puh-leeze.

    Second, focus on g protein/calorie ratios. There is food around with a
    better than 1:10 ratio--focus on them and you could do 200 g protien in a
    2000 calorie diet. It's a lot of fish and lean chicken or turkey, but it
    can be done. Use the protein powder to help out.

    Third, eat. On second thought, first, eat.

    Hugh

    --
    Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will attend no other.

  13. David said:

    "Jimmy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I have lately started lifting weights and following a healthy diet
    (Willett: the kind of fat/protein/carbs is more important than the
    amount/ratio)
    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    Because of this I started wondering how much protein I consume every
    day comparing them to how much protein I *should" consume.

    Since I'm trying to grow muscles I want to eat more protein than
    usually recommended and I aim for 1.5g/kg/day which would be for me 83
    grams of protein
    I realized in spite of what I've been told it is really hard to get
    enough proteins, the problem is that many foods that are high in
    calories and fill you up quickly don't provide much protein.

    For example 100g of fish is just 15g of protein
    100g of chicken is just 20g of protein
    Two glasses of milk 6 grams of protein
    This is just 41g but already a good amount of calories and bulk
    Add an egg? That's just 6g protein more of protein
    Two eggs? Just 12, so it is just 53g
    50 grams of beans with a salad? That's just 5 grams of protein
    A serving of whole spaghetti with sauce is just 9 grams

    The problem then is that many calories in the diet come from extra
    virgin olive oil that is devoid of protein.
    So when I've already consumed enough calories and filled my stomach to
    its max, the amount of protein consumed is still lower than what I
    should aim for.

    Who said that getting enough protein is easy?!
    It is not!

    I hope someone can help me with my predicament
    Thank You

    P.S
    I know I will be probably suggested to take protein powder but the
    thought that we can't get enough protein from food alone unless we
    stuff our stomach till it explodes or consume a 5.000 calories daily
    diet frustrates me.
    Aren't we supposed to be naturally fit and muscular (if it wasn't for a
    sedentary life) ? how we did it before protein powder was created?

    J. David

    you should be able to eat 1 lb (400 gms) of chicken/meat/fish per day -
    that gives you approx 100 gms of protein right there. - - say 30 almonds is
    another 12 gms - 3 slices of a good quality bread is 15 grms. - so there
    you have nearly 130 gms of protein right there.

    Getting enough protein is easy. This kid just needs to educate himself.

    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

  14. David said:

    "Jimmy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I have lately started lifting weights and following a healthy diet
    (Willett: the kind of fat/protein/carbs is more important than the
    amount/ratio)
    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    Because of this I started wondering how much protein I consume every
    day comparing them to how much protein I *should" consume.

    Since I'm trying to grow muscles I want to eat more protein than
    usually recommended and I aim for 1.5g/kg/day which would be for me 83
    grams of protein
    I realized in spite of what I've been told it is really hard to get
    enough proteins, the problem is that many foods that are high in
    calories and fill you up quickly don't provide much protein.

    For example 100g of fish is just 15g of protein
    100g of chicken is just 20g of protein
    Two glasses of milk 6 grams of protein
    This is just 41g but already a good amount of calories and bulk
    Add an egg? That's just 6g protein more of protein
    Two eggs? Just 12, so it is just 53g
    50 grams of beans with a salad? That's just 5 grams of protein
    A serving of whole spaghetti with sauce is just 9 grams

    The problem then is that many calories in the diet come from extra
    virgin olive oil that is devoid of protein.
    So when I've already consumed enough calories and filled my stomach to
    its max, the amount of protein consumed is still lower than what I
    should aim for.

    Who said that getting enough protein is easy?!
    It is not!

    I hope someone can help me with my predicament
    Thank You

    P.S
    I know I will be probably suggested to take protein powder but the
    thought that we can't get enough protein from food alone unless we
    stuff our stomach till it explodes or consume a 5.000 calories daily
    diet frustrates me.
    Aren't we supposed to be naturally fit and muscular (if it wasn't for a
    sedentary life) ? how we did it before protein powder was created?

    J. David

    you should be able to eat 1 lb (400 gms) of chicken/meat/fish per day -
    that gives you approx 100 gms of protein right there. - - say 30 almonds is
    another 12 gms - 3 slices of a good quality bread is 15 grms. - so there
    you have nearly 130 gms of protein right there.

    Getting enough protein is easy. This kid just needs to educate himself.

    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

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