Getting cut off by Kirsipuu

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:52:23 GMT, "Michael" <[email hidden]>

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When someone like Kirsipuu cuts off a rider, clipping his
front wheel and causing him to fall (as in the sprint to
finish the 2nd stage today where 2 riders fell), what's the
feeling about his move in the pelaton?

Liggett said it was a brilliant ride, but I'm thinking
there are people who don't like Kirsipuu tonight.

Mike

Kirsipuu made that move because of another rider in front of
him who came off his line. I'm not sure which rider that
was, I think it was Tom Boonen.

Michael said:

When someone like Kirsipuu cuts off a rider, clipping his
front wheel and causing him to fall (as in the sprint to
finish the 2nd stage today where 2 riders fell), what's
the feeling about his move in the pelaton?

It's peloton.

On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 21:06:33 +0200, "Kyle Legate" <[email hidden]>

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Michael said:

When someone like Kirsipuu cuts off a rider, clipping his
front wheel and causing him to fall (as in the sprint to
finish the 2nd stage today where 2 riders fell), what's
the feeling about his move in the pelaton?

It's peloton.

In the Netherlands, we have a special Usenet saying, or
disclaimer;

"spelling and typing errors are preserved in this message,
specially for those who have nothing else to talk about"

("nobody's perfect, glad my name is Arne Vogel"😉

Kyle Legate said:

Michael said:

When someone like Kirsipuu cuts off a rider, clipping his
front wheel and causing him to fall (as in the sprint to
finish the 2nd stage today where 2 riders fell), what's
the feeling about his move in the pelaton?

It's peloton.

And when the day comes that riders really are robots, it'll
be the Pelotron.

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Kyle Legate said:

Michael said:

When someone like Kirsipuu cuts off a rider, clipping
his front wheel and causing him to fall (as in the
sprint to finish the 2nd stage today where 2 riders
fell), what's the feeling about his move in the
pelaton?

It's peloton.

In the Netherlands, we have a special Usenet saying, or
disclaimer;

"spelling and typing errors are preserved in this message,
specially for those who have nothing else to talk about"

Lyle is a Canadian. They're known for worrying about
spelling as if spelling World War II correctly excuses them
for doing so little.

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("nobody's perfect, glad my name is Arne Vogel"😉

With the "goog-goog-googly eyes"?

Bird said:

Kyle Legate said:

Michael said:

When someone like Kirsipuu cuts off a rider, clipping
his front wheel and causing him to fall (as in the
sprint to finish the 2nd stage today where 2 riders
fell), what's the feeling about his move in the pelaton?

It's peloton.

In the Netherlands, we have a special Usenet saying, or
disclaimer;

"spelling and typing errors are preserved in this message,
specially for those who have nothing else to talk about"

Yeah, but I'm not in the Netherlands. Someone was going to
correct "Peloton" anyway; it's a favourite hobby of the
newsgroup.

As for the feeling in the pelOton: it will be directed at
Boonen, not Kirsipuu.

Tom Kunich said:

Kyle is a Canadian. They're known for worrying about
spelling as if spelling World War II correctly excuses
them for doing so little.

Hey! My mother and her family were liberated by Canadians.

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Kyle Legate said:

Michael said:

When someone like Kirsipuu cuts off a rider, clipping
his front wheel and causing him to fall (as in the
sprint to finish the 2nd stage today where 2 riders
fell), what's the feeling about his move in the
pelaton?

It's peloton.

In the Netherlands, we have a special Usenet saying, or
disclaimer;

"spelling and typing errors are preserved in this message,
specially for those who have nothing else to talk about"

Dude... the guy who cannot spell PELOTON is from Cornell --
he's new to the sport and certainly should know better how
to spell a very common RBR word.

No reason to stick up for him. If the Cornell dude can spell
Kirsipuu he should be EXPECTED to spell "peloton" correctly.

-KJP

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("nobody's perfect, glad my name is Arne Vogel"😉

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Bird said:

On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 21:06:33 +0200, "Kyle Legate"
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As for the feeling in the pelOton: it will be directed at
Boonen, not Kirsipuu.

It's "peloton".

(Tom Ewall) said:

It's "peloton".

It's "bunch".

"Michael" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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When someone like Kirsipuu cuts off a rider, clipping his
front wheel and causing him to fall (as in the sprint to
finish the 2nd stage today where 2 riders fell), what's
the feeling about his move in the pelaton?

Liggett said it was a brilliant ride, but I'm thinking
there are people who don't like Kirsipuu tonight.

Mike

I couldn't see from the coverage that it was Boonen causing
the reaction, but the rider that swung out was Jean-Patrick
Nazon (clearly wearing ugly dark glasses) not Kirsipuu.
Kirsipuu was on the inside of the turn (and doesn't wear
ugly sunglasses) and with his experience probably would not
have reacted the same way. Nazon could have avoided the
situation but it would have cost him his sprint.

Janek

Not Really Janek said:

I couldn't see from the coverage that it was Boonen
causing the reaction, but the rider that swung out was Jean-
Patrick Nazon (clearly wearing ugly dark glasses) not
Kirsipuu.

No, it was Kirsipuu. In a short interview with Norwegian TV2
(which broadcasts TdF in Norway), he said he didn't realize
what had happened until he saw the replay on TV.

--
Stig Are M. Botterli [email hidden]

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Not Really Janek said:

I couldn't see from the coverage that it was Boonen
causing the reaction, but the rider that swung out was
Jean-Patrick Nazon (clearly wearing ugly dark glasses)
not Kirsipuu.

No, it was Kirsipuu. In a short interview with Norwegian
TV2 (which broadcasts TdF in Norway), he said he didn't
realize what had happened until he saw the replay on TV.

--
Stig Are M. Botterli [email hidden]

I thought it was Kirsipuu. He had an Ag2R jersey, finishing
behind his teammate Nazon.

It looked reckless to me to swing out like that. He was
clearly frustrated trying to get to the front.

Mike

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 19:01:27 GMT, "Michael" <[email hidden]>

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It looked reckless to me to swing out like that. He was
clearly frustrated trying to get to the front.

He was on the end of a wave that was initially caused by
Boonen wobbling as his chain jumped/gear slipped.

Roger

"Michael" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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When someone like Kirsipuu cuts off a rider, clipping his
front wheel and causing him to fall (as in the sprint to
finish the 2nd stage today where 2 riders fell), what's
the feeling about his move in the pelaton?

Liggett said it was a brilliant ride, but I'm thinking
there are people who don't like Kirsipuu tonight.

If they really weren't happy with it, they would have
raised a protest
- by lifting an arm, signaling to the judges. This was seen
in the Giro d'Italia and would have been taken extra-
seriously yesterday because there WAS a crash. But there
was no protest and the rider who went down didn't [censored],
so he's off the hook. These things are expected to happen.

Also, some think it was Tom Boonen who caused it and
not Kirsipuu.

-Sonarrat.

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Tom Kunich said:

Kyle is a Canadian. They're known for worrying about
spelling as if spelling World War II correctly excuses
them for doing so little.

Hey! My mother and her family were liberated by Canadians.

You are mistaking the real Canadians for the likes of Kyle.

Tom Kunich said:

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Tom Kunich said:

Kyle is a Canadian. They're known for worrying about
spelling as if spelling World War II correctly excuses
them for doing so little.

Hey! My mother and her family were liberated by
Canadians.

You are mistaking the real Canadians for the likes of Kyle.

So, Tom - tell us how you think Canada did not do enough in
the Second World War (or the First, even). Did we refuse to
get involved against [censored] until we were attacked? Did we
wait until Russia had decimated [censored]'s army to attack
(yeah we got beat when we did, but we tried)? Did we whine
about "appeasment" while sitting back and selling materiel
to boost our economy and staying out of the fray?

I am sure that we are all glad that the United States joined
World War II (and WWI) in the end. But please do not
denigrate my country for doing "...so little.". Given our
population and non-militaristic history, I am very proud of
the job we did in both wars.

And while I do not know Kyle, I suspect he is actually a
"real" Canadian. That is something to be proud of, and
something that people respect you for - around the world.
Despite the stupid beer ads....

steve

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On 2004-07-06, Not Really Janek <[email hidden]>

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I couldn't see from the coverage that it was Boonen
causing the reaction, but the rider that swung out was
Jean-Patrick Nazon (clearly wearing ugly dark glasses)
not Kirsipuu.

No, it was Kirsipuu. In a short interview with Norwegian
TV2 (which broadcasts TdF in Norway), he said he didn't
realize what had happened until he saw the replay on TV.

--
Stig Are M. Botterli [email hidden]

I thought it was Kirsipuu. He had an Ag2R jersey,
finishing behind his teammate Nazon.

It looked reckless to me to swing out like that. He was
clearly frustrated trying to get to the front.

Mike

Nazon. See cyclingnews.comtour04.phpOpen ↗
2004/tour04/stage2/CADUTA

Jaan was far over on the riders' left side, not even in the
picture. I agree that it was reckless. Nazon could have
avoided Boonen with far less movement.

Janek

Tom Kunich said:

Of course, that is the Canadian way after all. And thanks
for demonstrating why Canadians need never again be taken
seriously about anything.

This from the laughing-stock of r.b.r., living in a
country run by a president who is the laughing-stock of
the entire World?

OK... whatever, Tom. I'm done here.