gettin' it off my chest

Shanon wrote:
|| My husband told me to quit [censored] at him and tell someone who
|| cares, so here goes: (and I apologize in advance)
||
|| I prefer to purchase as many Atkins products as I can by way of
|| vitamins, shakes, bread and convenience foods, because Atkins
|| Nutritionals was formed to fund the Robert C Atkins, which, in turn,
|| funds alternative medicine reasearch. This was Dr Atkins' life
|| work, his passion, and he thus far has been the only doctor that I
|| have EVER heard of trying to get people off the medications they are
|| currently taking and onto a natural supplement or nothing at
|| all....also, every batch of food made by Atkins Nutritionals is sent
|| to an independent lab for testing, which cant be said for most other
|| "low carb" brands. And, I dont think other large corporations that
|| have recently jumped on the low-carb bandwagon support anything but
|| their executive's pocketbooks.

I don't feel personally that this is a valid reason to buy those products.
They are still highly processed foods in most cases and a lot of them are
just plain junk food replacements. Too many of them can be bad for anyone.

If you want to promote Atkins best, then just follow LC, get plenty of
exercise, and be successul at it. You don't really need to buy as many
Aktins Nutritional products as you can.

||
|| Speaking of all the Johnny-come-latelies, naysayers, or anyone else
|| that wants to make a quick buck off the "new low-carb phenom",
|| please, read the book and quit LYING about Atkins being bad for
|| people! Induction wasnt meant to last for the rest of someone's
|| life! Heeelllllloooooo! He was a Cardiologist! With 40 years of
|| experience with the low-carb WOE! People that follow the plan lose
|| their excess weight, and eat a healthy, nutrient-rich, whole-food
|| diet!
||
|| Can we all face something together, (inhale) if everyone gave up the
|| processed foods that are killing us, all those large corporations
|| would be OUT OF BUSINESS, so they are desperately trying to find
|| (fund) research out there that discredits Dr Atkins! (exhale slowly)
||
|| By the way, someone has been asking for info about another plan out
|| there and my opinion is this: you cant have 1 "free day" per week
|| and expect to stabilize your blood sugar so that you can be free of
|| cravings, nor can you wildly binge one day per week and expect to
|| loose any weight! Weightlifting will only get you so far!

Well, the truth of this statement depends. Some can, some can't. You or I
can't say and a person must find what works for them.

||
|| there, I said it, and it sure felt good! I promise to post more
|| often so I wont be so overblown next time!
||
|| Glitter Girl

"Ignoramus24200" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I am curious, in one paragraph you write about buying highly processed
atkins junk foods, and in another paragraph, you implore us to give up
all processed foods. That makes no sense.

I noticed that too as well as dissing me for *asking* about the Body For
Life program on here.

If I am curious about *something* no matter what it is I like to learn about
things I am interested in, but
if and when I do, I am also finding out that it *is* entirely possible to do
a low carb version of BFL and many ppl
(from what I have been reading on the internet) have and do *without* eating
high carb foods on thier free days
or the high carb foods that are in the food plan of BFL. My main interest
is in the *exercise* portion of the BFL plan.

Kinda makes me wonder *who* this person is.

"Shanon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

By the way, someone has been asking for info about another plan out there
and my opinion is this: you cant have 1 "free day" per week and expect to
stabilize your blood sugar so that you can be free of cravings, nor can

you

Quoted message said:

wildly binge one day per week and expect to loose any weight!

And you are singling me out because?????

Quoted message said:

Weightlifting
will only get you so far!

Go repeat that phrase in M.F.W. and see what the fellows there will say to
that.
I'd be more then interested in thier replies.

I agree with the idea of patronizing Atkins to support the research.
However, since the business was sold, I'm not sure if the product profits
flow though to the Atkins Foundation, that funds the studies. Also,
unfortunately, I have not found an Atkins product that I like.

Maybe buying the books would help.

Contrary to your post, low carb should be a Way Of Life, and not just a
temporary diet.

"Shanon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[snip]

~~Jaime~~ said:

"Ignoramus24200" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I am curious, in one paragraph you write about buying highly processed
atkins junk foods, and in another paragraph, you implore us to give up
all processed foods. That makes no sense.

I noticed that too as well as dissing me for *asking* about the Body For
Life program on here.

If I am curious about *something* no matter what it is I like to learn about
things I am interested in, but
if and when I do, I am also finding out that it *is* entirely possible to do
a low carb version of BFL and many ppl
(from what I have been reading on the internet) have and do *without* eating
high carb foods on thier free days
or the high carb foods that are in the food plan of BFL. My main interest
is in the *exercise* portion of the BFL plan.

Kinda makes me wonder *who* this person is.

I've also noticed the contradictions - and if glitter girl have so much
conviction about alternative medical research why doesn't she donate directly to
charities who fund these types of research instead of buying the Atkins products?

Anyway - glitter girl has posted here on and off and I don't recall seeing her
posting in the last month or so. She might have dissed you because she has no
idea that you're a long-timer of ASDLC.

Why don't you donate money to charities that fund alternative medicine research
instead of buying (and eating) the highly processed Atkins products? That way
the charities might even get the tax returns from the money you donated,
depending on which country you live in.

Shanon said:

My husband told me to quit [censored] at him and tell someone who cares, so
here goes: (and I apologize in advance)

I prefer to purchase as many Atkins products as I can by way of vitamins,
shakes, bread and convenience foods, because Atkins Nutritionals was formed
to fund the Robert C Atkins, which, in turn, funds alternative medicine
reasearch. This was Dr Atkins' life work, his passion, and he thus far has
been the only doctor that I have EVER heard of trying to get people off the
medications they are currently taking and onto a natural supplement or
nothing at all....also, every batch of food made by Atkins Nutritionals is
sent to an independent lab for testing, which cant be said for most other
"low carb" brands. And, I dont think other large corporations that have
recently jumped on the low-carb bandwagon support anything but their
executive's pocketbooks.

Speaking of all the Johnny-come-latelies, naysayers, or anyone else that
wants to make a quick buck off the "new low-carb phenom", please, read the
book and quit LYING about Atkins being bad for people! Induction wasnt
meant to last for the rest of someone's life! Heeelllllloooooo! He was a
Cardiologist! With 40 years of experience with the low-carb WOE! People
that follow the plan lose their excess weight, and eat a healthy,
nutrient-rich, whole-food diet!

Can we all face something together, (inhale) if everyone gave up the
processed foods that are killing us, all those large corporations would be
OUT OF BUSINESS, so they are desperately trying to find (fund) research out
there that discredits Dr Atkins! (exhale slowly)

By the way, someone has been asking for info about another plan out there
and my opinion is this: you cant have 1 "free day" per week and expect to
stabilize your blood sugar so that you can be free of cravings, nor can you
wildly binge one day per week and expect to loose any weight! Weightlifting
will only get you so far!

there, I said it, and it sure felt good! I promise to post more often so I
wont be so overblown next time!

Glitter Girl

I too doubt if the "proceeds" from the Atkins Nutritionals will actually
now go to "research" of an unbiased nature solely for the benefit of
humanity.

While it is true that if we all were to stop buying heavily processed
foods, many big manufacturers would go OUT OF BUSINESS, but so would
Atkins Nutritionals -- because their foods are HEAVILY PROCESSSED.

Asparagus is not heavily processed if you buy it fresh, but in the can
it is loaded with 350 mg of sodium at the least.

I applaud your intentions, but am saddened by the unrealism of
altruistic hopes and desires.

Jim

Shanon said:

My husband told me to quit [censored] at him and tell someone who cares, so
here goes: (and I apologize in advance)

I prefer to purchase as many Atkins products as I can by way of vitamins,
shakes, bread and convenience foods, because Atkins Nutritionals was formed
to fund the Robert C Atkins, which, in turn, funds alternative medicine
reasearch. This was Dr Atkins' life work, his passion, and he thus far has
been the only doctor that I have EVER heard of trying to get people off the
medications they are currently taking and onto a natural supplement or
nothing at all....also, every batch of food made by Atkins Nutritionals is
sent to an independent lab for testing, which cant be said for most other
"low carb" brands. And, I dont think other large corporations that have
recently jumped on the low-carb bandwagon support anything but their
executive's pocketbooks.

maybe there is another glitter girl out there, this was only my second
post-I just joined the newsgroup a couple of weeks ago, since I dusted off
my copy of the ASDLC cookbook and followed the directions....I was
definitely NOT dissing anyone, more the US media that has the knack of
ticking me off everyday...

as far as the Atkins products are concerned, I buy vitamins, bread, and a
few convenience foods, so I choose to purchase Atkins brand, as I stated
before....there is a large department store chain here in my town that I do
not shop at, even though it means a 30 min trip to another department store,
because this store requires their FEMALE employees to carry plastic
see-through purses.....I do not order pizza from one of the largest pizza
chains because they have a "farm" company set up to support right-to-life
groups....I try not to purchase any products from one of the "big three"
food companies, because they are sabotaging nursing mothers in third world
countries.....

I do have some convictions that I try to live by, like I said, I was
[censored], but I never meant to offend anyone, only spout off......I
apologise for my lack of netiquette.....
"Ada Ma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

~~Jaime~~ said:

"Ignoramus24200" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I am curious, in one paragraph you write about buying highly processed
atkins junk foods, and in another paragraph, you implore us to give up
all processed foods. That makes no sense.

I noticed that too as well as dissing me for *asking* about the Body For
Life program on here.

If I am curious about *something* no matter what it is I like to learn
about
things I am interested in, but
if and when I do, I am also finding out that it *is* entirely possible to
do
a low carb version of BFL and many ppl
(from what I have been reading on the internet) have and do *without*
eating
high carb foods on thier free days
or the high carb foods that are in the food plan of BFL. My main
interest
is in the *exercise* portion of the BFL plan.

Kinda makes me wonder *who* this person is.

I've also noticed the contradictions - and if glitter girl have so much
conviction about alternative medical research why doesn't she donate
directly to charities who fund these types of research instead of buying
the Atkins products?

Anyway - glitter girl has posted here on and off and I don't recall seeing
her posting in the last month or so. She might have dissed you because
she has no idea that you're a long-timer of ASDLC.

"Shanon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I do have some convictions that I try to live by, like I said, I was
[censored], but I never meant to offend anyone, only spout off......I
apologise for my lack of netiquette.....

I was not offended but I was wondering why I was being singled out in your
original post
for asking about the BFL program.

~~Jaime~~ said:

"Shanon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

By the way, someone has been asking for info about another plan out there
and my opinion is this: you cant have 1 "free day" per week and expect to
stabilize your blood sugar so that you can be free of cravings, nor can

you

Quoted message said:

wildly binge one day per week and expect to loose any weight!

And you are singling me out because?????

Where is your name mentioned? Where is BFL mentioned? Get over yerself
fer chrissakes.

Lybbe
Highest Weight - 308
Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
Today's weight - 214.5
Goal - 150
http://photos.yahoo.com/lybbe

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Weightlifting
will only get you so far!

Go repeat that phrase in M.F.W. and see what the fellows there will say to
that.
I'd be more then interested in thier replies.

Cubit said:

I agree with the idea of patronizing Atkins to support the research.
However, since the business was sold,

It was??? I missed that. Mrs. Robert Atkins was going the circuit a
few weeks ago flogging a new cookbook. Who was the business sold to?

Lybbe
Highest Weight - 308
Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
Today's weight - 214.5
Goal - 150
http://photos.yahoo.com/lybbe

I'm not sure if the product profits

Quoted message said:

flow though to the Atkins Foundation, that funds the studies. Also,
unfortunately, I have not found an Atkins product that I like.

Maybe buying the books would help.

Contrary to your post, low carb should be a Way Of Life, and not just a
temporary diet.

"Shanon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[snip]

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:58:15 -0500, Lybbe <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Where is your name mentioned? Where is BFL mentioned?

It was in a post I made over the last couple of days.
When she mentioned *free day* that told me all I needed to know.

Ada Ma said:

Anyway - glitter girl has posted here on and off and I don't recall seeing her
posting in the last month or so. She might have dissed you because she has no
idea that you're a long-timer of ASDLC.

*Now* I can see your posts Ada Ma. I could not figure out why I was
not seeing them with Outlook Express so I had to download Agent back
into my computer just to get them.

I'm also finding a lot of posts I originally never got. Life is good
again. :-)

Lybbe said:

Cubit said:

I agree with the idea of patronizing Atkins to support the research.
However, since the business was sold,

It was??? I missed that. Mrs. Robert Atkins was going the circuit a
few weeks ago flogging a new cookbook. Who was the business sold to?

In one of the interviews a few weeks after Dr. Atkins died, his
widow mentioned that they'd sold the Atkins Nutritionals division a
few years before.

--
jamie ([email hidden])

"There's a seeker born every minute."

~~Jaime~~ said:

Ada Ma said:

Anyway - glitter girl has posted here on and off and I don't recall seeing her
posting in the last month or so. She might have dissed you because she has no
idea that you're a long-timer of ASDLC.

*Now* I can see your posts Ada Ma. I could not figure out why I was
not seeing them with Outlook Express so I had to download Agent back
into my computer just to get them.

I'm also finding a lot of posts I originally never got. Life is good
again. :-)

Helllo there! I understand you - couple of months ago my workplace's newshost
has gone down and I was reading ASDLC on Google and missed a whole load of
posts. It's like being blindfolded.

Oh well, my brain must have gone totally nuts as a search on Google for glitter
girl on ASDLC turned up with no one else other than you (there's another
glittergirl posted 1 singular post back in 2003).

The media ticking us off - sort of got used to it. There are often people who
for some reasons - legitimate or totally insane or for their own psychological
well-being - who tick me off for one thing or another. I can spend my precious
time justifying myself or I can run with it and do things that I like instead of
arguing with them. Life's too short to spend justifying myself or trying to
convince non believers - yes, dieting is a kind of religion - that I'm eating
food that are alright for me. I was once a flatmate of a woman who dissed me
for eating a lot of meat (and I used to eat a lot less meat than I do now) - the
thing is that she's also the person who decorated the common area with voodoo
dolls and miniatures of platforms where Inca (?) people used to sacrifice their
children to their gods. She also claimed that she couldn't hand in her
coursework on time because the "spirits" in the flat played tricks on her and
had hidden her floppy disks. Now would you argue with a person like that?
Think of my flatmate whenever you see media dissing low carb. That's it. You
won't feel annoyed anymore!!!

Shanon said:

maybe there is another glitter girl out there, this was only my second
post-I just joined the newsgroup a couple of weeks ago, since I dusted off
my copy of the ASDLC cookbook and followed the directions....I was
definitely NOT dissing anyone, more the US media that has the knack of
ticking me off everyday...

as far as the Atkins products are concerned, I buy vitamins, bread, and a
few convenience foods, so I choose to purchase Atkins brand, as I stated
before....there is a large department store chain here in my town that I do
not shop at, even though it means a 30 min trip to another department store,
because this store requires their FEMALE employees to carry plastic
see-through purses.....I do not order pizza from one of the largest pizza
chains because they have a "farm" company set up to support right-to-life
groups....I try not to purchase any products from one of the "big three"
food companies, because they are sabotaging nursing mothers in third world
countries.....

I do have some convictions that I try to live by, like I said, I was
[censored], but I never meant to offend anyone, only spout off......I
apologise for my lack of netiquette.....
"Ada Ma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

~~Jaime~~ said:

"Ignoramus24200" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

>I am curious, in one paragraph you write about buying highly processed
>atkins junk foods, and in another paragraph, you implore us to give up
>all processed foods. That makes no sense.

I noticed that too as well as dissing me for *asking* about the Body For
Life program on here.

If I am curious about *something* no matter what it is I like to learn
about
things I am interested in, but
if and when I do, I am also finding out that it *is* entirely possible to
do
a low carb version of BFL and many ppl
(from what I have been reading on the internet) have and do *without*
eating
high carb foods on thier free days
or the high carb foods that are in the food plan of BFL. My main
interest
is in the *exercise* portion of the BFL plan.

Kinda makes me wonder *who* this person is.

I've also noticed the contradictions - and if glitter girl have so much
conviction about alternative medical research why doesn't she donate
directly to charities who fund these types of research instead of buying
the Atkins products?

Anyway - glitter girl has posted here on and off and I don't recall seeing
her posting in the last month or so. She might have dissed you because
she has no idea that you're a long-timer of ASDLC.

(jamie) said:

Lybbe said:

Cubit said:

I agree with the idea of patronizing Atkins to support the research.
However, since the business was sold,

It was??? I missed that. Mrs. Robert Atkins was going the circuit a
few weeks ago flogging a new cookbook. Who was the business sold to?

In one of the interviews a few weeks after Dr. Atkins died, his
widow mentioned that they'd sold the Atkins Nutritionals division a
few years before.

Ahhhh. OK. That clears it up for me. Thanks.

Lybbe
Highest Weight - 308
Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
Today's weight - 214.5
Goal - 150
http://photos.yahoo.com/lybbe

"Shanon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I prefer to purchase as many Atkins products as I can by way of vitamins,
shakes, bread and convenience foods, because Atkins Nutritionals was

formed

Quoted message said:

to fund the Robert C Atkins, which, in turn, funds alternative medicine
reasearch. This was Dr Atkins' life work, his passion, and he thus far

has

Quoted message said:

been the only doctor that I have EVER heard of trying to get people off

the

Quoted message said:

medications they are currently taking and onto a natural supplement or
nothing at all....also, every batch of food made by Atkins Nutritionals is
sent to an independent lab for testing, which cant be said for most other
"low carb" brands. And, I dont think other large corporations that have
recently jumped on the low-carb bandwagon support anything but their
executive's pocketbooks.

Hmm, I don't really thing Dr. Atkins had all those products in mind to be
honest. In the book I have he even talks about organic food and so-on.
When he died, it seemed all hell broke lose and the Atkins company was just
into making as much as they can while the iron is hot. I will never eat
that frankinfood.

Enjoy,
Curt

"Shanon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<FI%qd.103097$%x.97903@okepread04>...

Hi
I do my best to eat mostly organic veggies (alot!), meat, fish, and I
still take a multivitiamin every day. I believe I'm getting all the
nutriton I need. If you want to support Atkins Center that's fine,
though.