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  1. Following the massive success of the last attempt to build our way out of congestion, the Government
    has announced a cave-in^H^H^H^H^H^H^H programme of motorway widening.
    news.bbc.co.uk3056636.stm

    It will cost £6bn (but will not of course stop cagers bleating about how overtaxed they are). There
    was a £1bn programme not too long ago, I seem to recall. So that's £7bn for mobile death
    greenhouses.

    Given the Government's stated aim of boosting sustainable transport, this can only be good news!
    Clearly they must be planning to match this with equal funding for sustainable transport, otherwise
    they will never achieve their goals.

    So let's see where the billions of pounds for sustainable transport will be spent! I bet the man
    with the paint bucket gets a prominent role :-(

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    Guy
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  2. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Following the massive success of the last attempt to build our way out of congestion, the
    Government has announced a cave-in^H^H^H^H^H^H^H programme of motorway widening.
    news.bbc.co.uk3056636.stm

    It will cost £6bn (but will not of course stop cagers bleating about how overtaxed they are).
    There was a £1bn programme not too long ago, I seem


    to

    Quoted message said:

    recall. So that's £7bn for mobile death greenhouses.

    Given the Government's stated aim of boosting sustainable transport, this can only be good news!
    Clearly they must be planning to match this with equal funding for sustainable transport,
    otherwise they will never achieve their goals.

    So let's see where the billions of pounds for sustainable transport will


    be

    Quoted message said:

    spent! I bet the man with the paint bucket gets a prominent role :-(

    How many U turns is this?

    First they decided 'predict and despoil' was unsustainable. But they were young, naive and
    idealistic then.

    Then they decided that a 'limited' billion or so would solve our problems.

    Now they have sold out to the roads lobby and we are back to massive despoliation.

    Well -- I suppose they have to have roads to store all the cars on while they are not going anywhere
    because of all the traffic cones.

    🙂

  3. you know? said:

    Following the massive success of the last attempt to build our way out of congestion, the
    Government has announced a cave-in^H^H^H^H^H^H^H programme of motorway widening.
    news.bbc.co.uk3056636.stm

    It will cost £6bn (but will not of course stop cagers bleating about how overtaxed they are). There
    was a £1bn programme not too long ago, I seem to recall. So that's £7bn for mobile death
    greenhouses.

    Given the Government's stated aim of boosting sustainable transport, this can only be good news!
    Clearly they must be planning to match this with equal funding for sustainable transport, otherwise
    they will never achieve their goals.

    So let's see where the billions of pounds for sustainable transport will be spent! I bet the man
    with the paint bucket gets a prominent role :-(

    "Meet the new boss Same as the old boss"

    Garry

  4. Tony W said:


    "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Following the massive success of the last attempt to build our way out of congestion, the
    Government has announced a cave-in^H^H^H^H^H^H^H programme of motorway widening.
    news.bbc.co.uk3056636.stm

    It will cost £6bn (but will not of course stop cagers bleating about how overtaxed they are).
    There was a £1bn programme not too long ago, I seem


    to

    Quoted message said:

    recall. So that's £7bn for mobile death greenhouses.

    Given the Government's stated aim of boosting sustainable transport, this can only be good news!
    Clearly they must be planning to match this with equal funding for sustainable transport,
    otherwise they will never achieve their goals.

    So let's see where the billions of pounds for sustainable transport will


    be

    Quoted message said:

    spent! I bet the man with the paint bucket gets a prominent role :-(

    How many U turns is this?

    First they decided 'predict and despoil' was unsustainable. But they were young, naive and
    idealistic then.

    Then they decided that a 'limited' billion or so would solve our problems.

    Now they have sold out to the roads lobby and we are back to massive despoliation.

    Well -- I suppose they have to have roads to store all the cars on while they are not going
    anywhere because of all the traffic cones.

    🙂

    It is an appalling waste of public funds.

    All they need to do to solve the motorway congestion problem is build a few high speed rail lines.

    Line #1 London - Southampton - Exeter - Plymouth Line #2 London - Reading - Bristol - Cardiff -
    Swansea Line #3 London - Oxford - Birmingham - Liverpool Line #4 London - Leicester - Nottingham -
    Leeds - Newcastle Line #5 London - Cambridge - Norwich Line #6 Birmingham - Manchester - Carlisle -
    Glasgow Line #7 Glasgow - Edinburgh
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  5. Gonzalez said:
    Quoted message said:

    Well -- I suppose they have to have roads to store all the cars on while they are not going
    anywhere because of all the traffic cones.

    🙂

    It is an appalling waste of public funds.

    All they need to do to solve the motorway congestion problem is build a few high speed rail lines.

    Line #1 London - Southampton - Exeter - Plymouth Line #2 London - Reading - Bristol - Cardiff -
    Swansea Line #3 London - Oxford - Birmingham - Liverpool Line #4 London - Leicester - Nottingham -
    Leeds - Newcastle Line #5 London - Cambridge - Norwich Line #6 Birmingham - Manchester - Carlisle
    - Glasgow Line #7 Glasgow - Edinburgh

    I would have thought the problem was the common factor in your first 5 examples. Why do successive
    goverements keep spending my money to cure congestion that I never see, can't they spend the money
    of the people that are causing the congestion? If there is congestion in/around London, either tax
    Londoners until they can afford to cure the problem or until enough people move away from London to
    cure the problem.

  6. Quoted message said:

    I would have thought the problem was the common factor in your first 5 examples. Why do successive
    goverements keep spending my money to cure congestion that I never see, can't they spend the money
    of the people that are causing the congestion? If there is congestion in/around London, either tax
    Londoners until they can afford to cure the problem or until enough people move away from London
    to cure the problem.

    Bang on. The only jams we ever het in Southampton are usually the result of roadworks.

    Simonb

  7. Garry Broad <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    you know? said:

    So let's see where the billions of pounds for sustainable transport will be spent! I bet the man
    with the paint bucket gets a prominent role :-(

    "Meet the new boss Same as the old boss"

    Well, we won't get fooled again!

  8. "Marc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If there is congestion in/around London, either tax Londoners until they can afford to cure the
    problem or until enough people move away from London to cure the problem.

    You would have to start by not encouraging them to go there in the first place before you can begin
    to reverse the process.

    There must be tens or even hundreds of thousands of "Londoners" whose entire families (outside of
    their own nuclear unit) live elsewhere in the country and are only living there because they can't
    get the sort of work they're looking for elsewhere.

    If we could find a way of luring these people back to their roots and then initiating the reverse
    process that would be progress.

    One day we will be forced to have a national demographic policy which encompasses:-

    1) Birthright
    2) Care of the elderly
    3) Geographic distribution of population
    4) Age distribution of population
    5) Immigration
    6) Emigration

    ...although it would need a particularly imaginative politician to sell the idea.

    F A

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