Get OFF it!

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jmcquown said:

Sandra Lee or whoever she is is not worth the bandwidth, pro or con.

When I read the header, I immediately started singing Kool & The
Gang's
"Get Down On It!"

I think people like to make fun of this show becaus it's such a
trainwreck. I have found some of the discourse more entertaining
than the show, itself. That being said, it is on-topic since it is a
cooking show, is it not? Can you not kill a thread with your
newsreader?

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OB FOOD: Tomorrow I'll be making a couple of nice sole fillets.
Maybe sole
piccata. I have a nice fresh lemon and would just need capers.
Thinking of
steamed brussels sprouts to go with.

Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean fish,
really.

Sole is lovely just fried gently in some good butter and a good
squeeze of lemon.

O

I agree, and will probably only coat minimally in crumbs and pan fry in
butter or a butter/olive oil mix and sprinkle lemon juice over the fish when
it's done. Capers (I'd have to go to the store, not in the mood for that)
are optional. A nice wine and lemon sauce is nice but not essential.

Jill

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I was raised on chili *with* beans, ground beef. Of course you couldn't
exactly call my mom's chili "chili". 1 lb. ground beef, 2 cans kidney
beans, 2 cans Campbell's tomato soup, 2 soup cans of water. I don't
think she even added salt or pepper. Uh... love you Mom but please tell
me you aren't making chili 🙂

Personally, I don't care if the meat is ground or chopped, as long as
there is plenty of it. I like beans, too.

My mom's chili had a bit more flavor and more ingredients; sauteed chopped
onion and garlic, 1 lb. ground beef, 2 cans kidney beans, 1 can Campbell's
tomato soup, 1 can tomato paste, 2-3 tablespoons chili powder, 1 teaspoon
powdered cumin, 1 bay leafm, a bit of black pepper, but no salt. I
believe she added 1 soup can and 1 tomato paste can of water. It was a
rather thick chili, and pretty good.

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Okay, here's a new debate. Pro beans or con? LOL

Beans, but not too many... without the beans it's simply meat sauce,
with too many beans it's simply non-vegetarian stewed beans. My recipe
is in the R.F.C. Cook Book... naturally mine is the only real chili
recipe. Everything else is just an attempt. Versions made with fowl
ain't any kind of chili, in fact creating such a monstrosity is a food
felony... your pot gets melted down and you get ten years on nothing
but turkey lasagna and water. Someone once served me turkey lasagna, I
literally gagged.

Sheldon

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Okay, here's a new debate. Pro beans or con? LOL

Beans, but not too many... without the beans it's simply meat sauce,
with too many beans it's simply non-vegetarian stewed beans. My recipe
is in the R.F.C. Cook Book... naturally mine is the only real chili
recipe. Everything else is just an attempt. Versions made with fowl
ain't any kind of chili, in fact creating such a monstrosity is a food
felony... your pot gets melted down and you get ten years on nothing
but turkey lasagna and water. Someone once served me turkey lasagna, I
literally gagged.

Sheldon

Naturally! :-) And I agree. AFAIC, the only decent turkey is a roasted
turkey. Ain't no way no how I'll eat it any other way. It certainly
doesn't belong in chili. Y'all can keep your turkey "creations", including
turkey bacon and turkey sausages, etc.

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yes, but cable tv has a lot to reccomend it, watching a rerun of "The
Great Escape", right now. Sometimes, it's worth a few bucks a month to
get such quality shows.

History Channel (we get three of them)
Travel Channel
Discovery (we get four or five of them, especially like Discovery HD)
Learning Channel
Food Channel. (I like Unwrapped)

I like Unwrapped too!

kili

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Okay, here's a new debate. Pro beans or con? LOL

Jill

Not even debatable. NO beans is the only true chili.

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Okay, here's a new debate. Pro beans or con? LOL

Jill

Not even debatable. NO beans is the only true chili.

You sound like my hubby, Edwin. He is adamant about no beans in chili. I
grew up with beans in chili, but it's a moot point; I can't stand the stuff
anyway.

kili

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Okay, here's a new debate. Pro beans or con? LOL

Jill

Not even debatable. NO beans is the only true chili.

People who insist that "true" chili cannot have beans rank extremely high on
both the "boring" and "wrong" scales.

--
Peter Aitken

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snip My midwestern version has ground meat, of course. :-)

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How Midwestern, really??? Did your mother, relatives and mothers of friends
add either elbow macaroni or spaghetti pasta to the chili?
Janet

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literally gagged.

Sheldon

Oh, man!!! Memory Lane--turkey lasagna with whole wheat pasta and eggplant
and carrot slices between layers and faux cheese--never accept an invitation
to dinner unless you have full knowledge of whatever phase or new age
whatever they are on.
Janet

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How Midwestern, really??? Did your mother, relatives and mothers of
friends add either elbow macaroni or spaghetti pasta to the chili?
Janet

LOL! My family are MS natives and, AFAIK, never made chili. My mom got
the simple recipe she used from a neighbor when we lived in St. Louis, MO.
Macaroni or spaghetti was never added by anyone I knew. My first encounter
with that was during a visit to Cincinnati where, of course, Cincinnati
chili originated. Can't say I liked the stuff. It wasn't the pasta I
minded, but the seasonings which included a significant amount of cinnamon
and chocolate.

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I've enjoyed very good sole preparations in restaurants. The one
time I prepared it, it was way too "fishy" for my tastes.

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Must have been an off day. Sole is very delicate and mild-tasting.

I agree, Jill. Sounds like it wasn't an "off day", but an "off" sole.
It's a mild, delicious fish.

Dora

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jmcquown said:

OB FOOD: Tomorrow I'll be making a couple of nice sole fillets. Maybe
sole
piccata. I have a nice fresh lemon and would just need capers. Thinking
of
steamed brussels sprouts to go with.

Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean fish,
really.

Sole is lovely just fried gently in some good butter and a good squeeze of
lemon.

O

I wish I could buy some real sole, Ophelia, especially Dover sole. Much of
the "sole" sold here is some other flatfish hiding behind the sole name.

Dora

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jmcquown wrote:
> OB FOOD: Tomorrow I'll be making a couple of nice sole fillets.
> Maybe sole
> piccata. I have a nice fresh lemon and would just need capers.
> Thinking of
> steamed brussels sprouts to go with.

Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean fish,
really.

Sole is lovely just fried gently in some good butter and a good
squeeze of lemon.

O

I wish I could buy some real sole, Ophelia, especially Dover sole.
Much of the "sole" sold here is some other flatfish hiding behind the
sole name.

Oh🙁 Time you came home for a visit and had the real thing🙂

Edwin Pawlowski said:

History Channel (we get three of them)

Are you paying for the extended cable channel$? We have only one on
basic cable.

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I've enjoyed very good sole preparations in restaurants. The one
time I prepared it, it was way too "fishy" for my tastes.

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Must have been an off day. Sole is very delicate and mild-tasting.

I agree, Jill. Sounds like it wasn't an "off day", but an "off" sole.
It's a mild, delicious fish.

Dora

I'm beginning to think that, too, Dora. I'll give it another try one of
these days.

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> jmcquown wrote:
>> OB FOOD: Tomorrow I'll be making a couple of nice sole fillets. Maybe
>> sole
>> piccata. I have a nice fresh lemon and would just need capers.
>> Thinking of
>> steamed brussels sprouts to go with.
>
> Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean fish,
> really.

Sole is lovely just fried gently in some good butter and a good squeeze
of lemon.

O

I wish I could buy some real sole, Ophelia, especially Dover sole. Much
of the "sole" sold here is some other flatfish hiding behind the sole
name.

Oh🙁 Time you came home for a visit and had the real thing🙂

I'll drink to that! (Now where did I stash that rum?). Can't you tell I
was British Navy oriented - W.R.N.S.?

Dora

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>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> OB FOOD: Tomorrow I'll be making a couple of nice sole fillets.
>>> Maybe sole
>>> piccata. I have a nice fresh lemon and would just need capers.
>>> Thinking of
>>> steamed brussels sprouts to go with.
>>
>> Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean
>> fish,
>> really.
>
> Sole is lovely just fried gently in some good butter and a good
> squeeze of lemon.
>
> O

I wish I could buy some real sole, Ophelia, especially Dover sole.
Much of the "sole" sold here is some other flatfish hiding behind
the sole name.

Oh🙁 Time you came home for a visit and had the real thing🙂

I'll drink to that! (Now where did I stash that rum?). Can't you
tell I was British Navy oriented - W.R.N.S.?

Hehe.. I had my son in a Navy Hospital in Malta! It wasn't fair.. the
blokes got the rum and we got the yukkie stout🙁

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>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> OB FOOD: Tomorrow I'll be making a couple of nice sole fillets.
>>>> Maybe sole
>>>> piccata. I have a nice fresh lemon and would just need capers.
>>>> Thinking of
>>>> steamed brussels sprouts to go with.
>>>
>>> Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean fish,
>>> really.
>>
>> Sole is lovely just fried gently in some good butter and a good
>> squeeze of lemon.
>>
>> O
>
> I wish I could buy some real sole, Ophelia, especially Dover sole. Much
> of the "sole" sold here is some other flatfish hiding behind the sole
> name.

Oh🙁 Time you came home for a visit and had the real thing🙂

I'll drink to that! (Now where did I stash that rum?). Can't you tell
I was British Navy oriented - W.R.N.S.?

Hehe.. I had my son in a Navy Hospital in Malta! It wasn't fair.. the
blokes got the rum and we got the yukkie stout🙁

LOL! Sometimes there's simply no justice, is there?

Dora

Wayne Boatwright said:

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jmcquown said:

Okay, here's a new debate. Pro beans or con? LOL

Beans, but not too many... without the beans it's simply meat sauce,
with too many beans it's simply non-vegetarian stewed beans. My recipe
is in the R.F.C. Cook Book... naturally mine is the only real chili
recipe. Everything else is just an attempt. Versions made with fowl
ain't any kind of chili, in fact creating such a monstrosity is a food
felony... your pot gets melted down and you get ten years on nothing
but turkey lasagna and water. Someone once served me turkey lasagna, I
literally gagged.

Sheldon

Naturally! :-) And I agree. AFAIC, the only decent turkey is a roasted
turkey. Ain't no way no how I'll eat it any other way. It certainly
doesn't belong in chili. Y'all can keep your turkey "creations", including
turkey bacon and turkey sausages, etc.

what about leftover turkey sandwiches? (I like them on challah)

any other form than roasted I also cannot stand. I have to make turkey
meatloaf at work. Ground turkey is one of the only food products that i
really HATE to handle. eeech!

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