Get OFF it!

On Sat 02 Jul 2005 10:41:10p, dee wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

What doesn't belong here? Sandra Lee has a cooking show on FNTV, yes,
that's Food Network TV. Why isn't this topic acceptable to you as a
viable topic for discussion.

Did I say anything at all about Sandra Lee? No!

Quoted message said:

Maybe you and Jill should just get
together and decide what is and isn't a genuine topic for discussion on
rfc. Of course, we know that Jill doesn't have cable, so she, doesn't
have a clue about the [censored] that is on. I suspect that you, Wayne, do
have cable, and, just want to stir the pot.

I do have cable, but my cable service does not cary Food Network TV. I
have never seen Sandra Lee. I stir my own pots, thank you. I do not need
your help.

My comment was solely about totally off-topic posts. Perhaps it would have
been best in its own thread.

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On Sat 02 Jul 2005 10:36:07p, cathyxyz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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Goomba38 said:

jmcquown said:

Yet another reason I don't pay for (or HAVE) Cable television. Read a
book. Even read HER book if you want to. But please quit yapping about
her here.

Jill

Now hold your gol'darn horses there Miss Jill. We read a lot of clap
trap by others (yourself and myself included) routinely. Who decides
which yapping is worthy and which is not?
I have actually enjoyed the posts about Sandra Lee. If you haven't, just
skip reading them. But lets be fair, ok?
Goomba

LOL. I do not have "cable" either. Even if I did, I doubt we could get
the same channels as in the US... So I get a laugh out of some of these
threads - especially when I can't sleep 🙂
Cheers
Cathy

I would imagine that some of these topics would put you to sleep! :-)

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On Sat 02 Jul 2005 10:36:07p, cathyxyz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Goomba38 said:

jmcquown said:

Yet another reason I don't pay for (or HAVE) Cable television. Read a
book. Even read HER book if you want to. But please quit yapping about
her here.

Jill

Now hold your gol'darn horses there Miss Jill. We read a lot of clap
trap by others (yourself and myself included) routinely. Who decides
which yapping is worthy and which is not?
I have actually enjoyed the posts about Sandra Lee. If you haven't, just
skip reading them. But lets be fair, ok?
Goomba

LOL. I do not have "cable" either. Even if I did, I doubt we could get
the same channels as in the US... So I get a laugh out of some of these
threads - especially when I can't sleep 🙂
Cheers
Cathy

I would imagine that some of these topics would put you to sleep! :-)

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Wayne Boatwright said:

I would imagine that some of these topics would put you to sleep! :-)

LOL. Not all of them. Sad thing is, living out here in the "sticks" can
leave me at a disadvantage. I know nothing about politics (thank
goodness 🙂 ), do not like to discuss religion (on RFC or anywhere, for
that matter).... and as I pointed out earlier, even if I did have
"cable" or satellite tv that is available here in SA, they only have
one cooking channel and that's BBC Food. I have no clue about some of
the "OT" threads, so I skip a lot of them. Our "local" tv channels have
a few cooking programs, but they are always a few seasons behind and
the few locally-made shows are not too bad... but it would be nice to
have more variety.

Cheers
Cathy

Wayne Boatwright said:

I would imagine that some of these topics would put you to sleep! :-)

LOL. Not all of them. Sad thing is, living out here in the "sticks" can
leave me at a disadvantage. I know nothing about politics (thank
goodness 🙂 ), do not like to discuss religion (on RFC or anywhere, for
that matter).... and as I pointed out earlier, even if I did have
"cable" or satellite tv that is available here in SA, they only have
one cooking channel and that's BBC Food. I have no clue about some of
the "OT" threads, so I skip a lot of them. Our "local" tv channels have
a few cooking programs, but they are always a few seasons behind and
the few locally-made shows are not too bad... but it would be nice to
have more variety.

Cheers
Cathy

On Sat 02 Jul 2005 11:05:39p, cathyxyz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

I would imagine that some of these topics would put you to sleep! :-)

LOL. Not all of them. Sad thing is, living out here in the "sticks" can
leave me at a disadvantage. I know nothing about politics (thank
goodness 🙂 ), do not like to discuss religion (on RFC or anywhere, for
that matter).... and as I pointed out earlier, even if I did have
"cable" or satellite tv that is available here in SA, they only have
one cooking channel and that's BBC Food. I have no clue about some of
the "OT" threads, so I skip a lot of them. Our "local" tv channels have
a few cooking programs, but they are always a few seasons behind and
the few locally-made shows are not too bad... but it would be nice to
have more variety.

I don't personally care to discuss politics or religion in any venue, and I
firmly believe that those who do should do so in groups where those
subjects are "on topic". We are serviced by a local "mom and pop" cable
company, so there are many channels I can't get, and a few that I would
like to have. In its early days, I thoroughly enjoyed Food Network TV.
They had some high quality shows featuring people who knew what the hell
they were talking about. From what I ga ther, many of their current shows
are produced for sheer entertainment value and offer very little
interesting content. If were available to me right now, I doubt that I'd
subscribe. Actually, if I could get BBC Food, I'd really prefer that. Our
local public broadcasting station has a few cooking shows that I like. The
trouble is, I rarely know when they are on.

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On Sat 02 Jul 2005 11:05:39p, cathyxyz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

I would imagine that some of these topics would put you to sleep! :-)

LOL. Not all of them. Sad thing is, living out here in the "sticks" can
leave me at a disadvantage. I know nothing about politics (thank
goodness 🙂 ), do not like to discuss religion (on RFC or anywhere, for
that matter).... and as I pointed out earlier, even if I did have
"cable" or satellite tv that is available here in SA, they only have
one cooking channel and that's BBC Food. I have no clue about some of
the "OT" threads, so I skip a lot of them. Our "local" tv channels have
a few cooking programs, but they are always a few seasons behind and
the few locally-made shows are not too bad... but it would be nice to
have more variety.

I don't personally care to discuss politics or religion in any venue, and I
firmly believe that those who do should do so in groups where those
subjects are "on topic". We are serviced by a local "mom and pop" cable
company, so there are many channels I can't get, and a few that I would
like to have. In its early days, I thoroughly enjoyed Food Network TV.
They had some high quality shows featuring people who knew what the hell
they were talking about. From what I ga ther, many of their current shows
are produced for sheer entertainment value and offer very little
interesting content. If were available to me right now, I doubt that I'd
subscribe. Actually, if I could get BBC Food, I'd really prefer that. Our
local public broadcasting station has a few cooking shows that I like. The
trouble is, I rarely know when they are on.

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jmcquown said:

Sandra Lee or whoever she is is not worth the bandwidth, pro or con.

When I read the header, I immediately started singing Kool & The Gang's
"Get Down On It!"

I think people like to make fun of this show becaus it's such a
trainwreck. I have found some of the discourse more entertaining than
the show, itself. That being said, it is on-topic since it is a
cooking show, is it not? Can you not kill a thread with your
newsreader?

Quoted message said:

OB FOOD: Tomorrow I'll be making a couple of nice sole fillets. Maybe sole
piccata. I have a nice fresh lemon and would just need capers. Thinking of
steamed brussels sprouts to go with.

Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean fish,
really.

OB FOOD: Made an awesome pot of chili today despite the weather being
in the high 80's. It's one of those dishes I just have to have every
now and then...

-L.

Wayne Boatwright said:

I don't personally care to discuss politics or religion in any venue, and I
firmly believe that those who do should do so in groups where those
subjects are "on topic".

Have to agree with you there...

We are serviced by a local "mom and pop" cable

Quoted message said:

company, so there are many channels I can't get, and a few that I would
like to have. In its early days, I thoroughly enjoyed Food Network TV.
They had some high quality shows featuring people who knew what the hell
they were talking about. From what I ga ther, many of their current shows
are produced for sheer entertainment value and offer very little
interesting content. If were available to me right now, I doubt that I'd
subscribe. Actually, if I could get BBC Food, I'd really prefer that. Our
local public broadcasting station has a few cooking shows that I like. The
trouble is, I rarely know when they are on.

BBC Food doesn't look too bad, but we don't feel it's worth it to
subscribe for just one cooking channel.... never mind the other
"rubbish" they have on our "service"... makes me laugh, they have NINE
sports channels... but lets not go there 🙂

We do get some Jamie Oliver stuff on local tv, but are way behind.
There was a long thread recently about one of his shows - he was doing
cooking at a school or something. Haven't seen that yet either... maybe
we will.

Anyhoo, you guys all enjoy your 4th of July celebrations - some of the
meals being planned sound wonderful.

Cheers
Cathy

-L. said:

Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean fish,
really.

Ohhh, sole is great! Give it a try. 😉

Quoted message said:

OB FOOD: Made an awesome pot of chili today despite the weather being
in the high 80's. It's one of those dishes I just have to have every
now and then...

-L.

Love chili, don't you want to share your recipe with us, please?
Cheers
Cathy

On Sat 02 Jul 2005 11:28:02p, cathyxyz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

I don't personally care to discuss politics or religion in any venue,
and I firmly believe that those who do should do so in groups where
those subjects are "on topic".

Have to agree with you there...

We are serviced by a local "mom and pop" cable

Quoted message said:

company, so there are many channels I can't get, and a few that I would
like to have. In its early days, I thoroughly enjoyed Food Network TV.
They had some high quality shows featuring people who knew what the
hell they were talking about. From what I ga ther, many of their
current shows are produced for sheer entertainment value and offer very
little interesting content. If were available to me right now, I doubt
that I'd subscribe. Actually, if I could get BBC Food, I'd really
prefer that. Our local public broadcasting station has a few cooking
shows that I like. The trouble is, I rarely know when they are on.

BBC Food doesn't look too bad, but we don't feel it's worth it to
subscribe for just one cooking channel.... never mind the other
"rubbish" they have on our "service"... makes me laugh, they have NINE
sports channels... but lets not go there 🙂

I think we have at least that many, all of which I have removed from our
scan sequence. We also have at least 8-9 all "news" and politic type
channels, all but one news channel of which I have blocked. One doesn't
need to know that much! :-)

Quoted message said:

We do get some Jamie Oliver stuff on local tv, but are way behind.
There was a long thread recently about one of his shows - he was doing
cooking at a school or something. Haven't seen that yet either... maybe
we will.

Anyhoo, you guys all enjoy your 4th of July celebrations - some of the
meals being planned sound wonderful.

Cheers
Cathy

Thanks, Cathy, and you have a great weekend!

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Wayne Boatwright said:

When I lived in Ohio I thought of chili as a cold weather food, and rarely
prepared it any other time except in winter.

I grew up in Illinois so we rarely had it in the summertime.

Quoted message said:

Here in Arizona it's never
cold enough to "qualify", so we disregard seasonal dishes. However, I made
a big pot of chili a couple of weeks ago when it was 112 degrees outside.
It was good!

I just spent 10 days in Carefree and Sedona - first time I had been to
AZ for an extended period of time. Next time we will be visiting in
the winter. 😉

-L.

On Sat 02 Jul 2005 11:25:43p, -L. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

jmcquown said:

Sandra Lee or whoever she is is not worth the bandwidth, pro or con.

When I read the header, I immediately started singing Kool & The Gang's
"Get Down On It!"

<vbg>

Quoted message said:

I think people like to make fun of this show becaus it's such a
trainwreck. I have found some of the discourse more entertaining than
the show, itself. That being said, it is on-topic since it is a
cooking show, is it not? Can you not kill a thread with your
newsreader?

I don't know about Jill's, but I can kill a poster very easily with Xnews.
Killing a thread or topic is a bit more effort.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

OB FOOD: Tomorrow I'll be making a couple of nice sole fillets. Maybe
sole piccata. I have a nice fresh lemon and would just need capers.
Thinking of steamed brussels sprouts to go with.

Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean fish,
really.

I've enjoyed very good sole preparations in restaurants. The one time I
prepared it, it was way too "fishy" for my tastes.

Quoted message said:

OB FOOD: Made an awesome pot of chili today despite the weather being
in the high 80's. It's one of those dishes I just have to have every
now and then...

When I lived in Ohio I thought of chili as a cold weather food, and rarely
prepared it any other time except in winter. Here in Arizona it's never
cold enough to "qualify", so we disregard seasonal dishes. However, I made
a big pot of chili a couple of weeks ago when it was 112 degrees outside.
It was good!

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On Sat 02 Jul 2005 11:42:59p, -L. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

When I lived in Ohio I thought of chili as a cold weather food, and
rarely prepared it any other time except in winter.

I grew up in Illinois so we rarely had it in the summertime.

Quoted message said:

Here in Arizona it's never
cold enough to "qualify", so we disregard seasonal dishes. However, I
made a big pot of chili a couple of weeks ago when it was 112 degrees
outside. It was good!

I just spent 10 days in Carefree and Sedona - first time I had been to
AZ for an extended period of time. Next time we will be visiting in
the winter. 😉

-L.

I have never been to Carefree, but I have been to Sedona in both winter and
summer. I prefer it in summer, as it's much cooler than the Phoenix area.
Having spent most of my life where winters were cold, I even find winter in
Sedona too chilly.

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Wayne Boatwright said:

On Sat 02 Jul 2005 11:25:43p, -L. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

jmcquown said:

Sandra Lee or whoever she is is not worth the bandwidth, pro or con.

When I read the header, I immediately started singing Kool & The
Gang's "Get Down On It!"

<vbg>

Quoted message said:

I think people like to make fun of this show becaus it's such a
trainwreck. I have found some of the discourse more entertaining
than the show, itself. That being said, it is on-topic since it is a
cooking show, is it not? Can you not kill a thread with your
newsreader?

I don't know about Jill's, but I can kill a poster very easily with
Xnews. Killing a thread or topic is a bit more effort.

I can skip (and have been) skipping threads with Sandra Lee's name in the
subject. But Dee herself perpetuatued the problem when she titled a thread
"My favorite recipe". I open it and what do I read but yet another piece of
[censored] about this Sandra person. How am I supposed to know that's what it was
about?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

OB FOOD: Tomorrow I'll be making a couple of nice sole fillets.
Maybe sole piccata. I have a nice fresh lemon and would just need
capers. Thinking of steamed brussels sprouts to go with.

Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean fish,
really.

I've enjoyed very good sole preparations in restaurants. The one
time I prepared it, it was way too "fishy" for my tastes.

Must have been an off day. Sole is very delicate and mild-tasting.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

OB FOOD: Made an awesome pot of chili today despite the weather
being in the high 80's. It's one of those dishes I just have to
have every now and then...

When I lived in Ohio I thought of chili as a cold weather food, and
rarely prepared it any other time except in winter. Here in Arizona
it's never cold enough to "qualify", so we disregard seasonal dishes.
However, I made a big pot of chili a couple of weeks ago when it was
112 degrees outside. It was good!

Sometimes, you just have to have chili 🙂

On Sun 03 Jul 2005 12:23:54a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

I can skip (and have been) skipping threads with Sandra Lee's name in
the subject. But Dee herself perpetuatued the problem when she titled a
thread "My favorite recipe". I open it and what do I read but yet
another piece of [censored] about this Sandra person. How am I supposed to
know that's what it was about?

Agreed. I hate those kind of surprises.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> OB FOOD: Tomorrow I'll be making a couple of nice sole fillets.
> Maybe sole piccata. I have a nice fresh lemon and would just need
> capers. Thinking of steamed brussels sprouts to go with.

Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean fish,
really.

I've enjoyed very good sole preparations in restaurants. The one
time I prepared it, it was way too "fishy" for my tastes.

Must have been an off day. Sole is very delicate and mild-tasting.

Must have gotten a bad piece. I rarely prepare fish at home, since I'm the
only who eats it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

OB FOOD: Made an awesome pot of chili today despite the weather
being in the high 80's. It's one of those dishes I just have to have
every now and then...

When I lived in Ohio I thought of chili as a cold weather food, and
rarely prepared it any other time except in winter. Here in Arizona
it's never cold enough to "qualify", so we disregard seasonal dishes.
However, I made a big pot of chili a couple of weeks ago when it was
112 degrees outside. It was good!

Sometimes, you just have to have chili 🙂

How true. I loved chili even when I didn't like soup. I love many soups
now, but I still love chili and sometimes I just need a "fix"! :-)

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Wayne Boatwright said:

On Sun 03 Jul 2005 12:23:54a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

When I lived in Ohio I thought of chili as a cold weather food, and
rarely prepared it any other time except in winter. Here in Arizona
it's never cold enough to "qualify", so we disregard seasonal
dishes. However, I made a big pot of chili a couple of weeks ago
when it was 112 degrees outside. It was good!

Sometimes, you just have to have chili 🙂

How true. I loved chili even when I didn't like soup. I love many
soups now, but I still love chili and sometimes I just need a "fix"!
:-)

Okay, here's a new debate. Pro beans or con? LOL

Jill

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Quoted message said:

jmcquown said:

Sandra Lee or whoever she is is not worth the bandwidth, pro or con.

When I read the header, I immediately started singing Kool & The
Gang's
"Get Down On It!"

I think people like to make fun of this show becaus it's such a
trainwreck. I have found some of the discourse more entertaining than
the show, itself. That being said, it is on-topic since it is a
cooking show, is it not? Can you not kill a thread with your
newsreader?

Quoted message said:

OB FOOD: Tomorrow I'll be making a couple of nice sole fillets.
Maybe sole
piccata. I have a nice fresh lemon and would just need capers.
Thinking of
steamed brussels sprouts to go with.

Hummm...I have been afraid to try sole. I'm not big on ocean fish,
really.

Sole is lovely just fried gently in some good butter and a good squeeze
of lemon.

O

On Sun 03 Jul 2005 12:43:55a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Sun 03 Jul 2005 12:23:54a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

> When I lived in Ohio I thought of chili as a cold weather food, and
> rarely prepared it any other time except in winter. Here in Arizona
> it's never cold enough to "qualify", so we disregard seasonal
> dishes. However, I made a big pot of chili a couple of weeks ago
> when it was 112 degrees outside. It was good!

Sometimes, you just have to have chili 🙂

How true. I loved chili even when I didn't like soup. I love many
soups now, but I still love chili and sometimes I just need a "fix"!
:-)

Okay, here's a new debate. Pro beans or con? LOL

Okay, I was brought up on midwestern style chili, which would not be chili
without beans. My chili has evolved considerably from my mother's recipe,
but it still has beans. My preference is a mixture of dark and light red
kidney beans, although occasionally I make a black bean chili to which I
also add corn kernals. I don't care for red bean or pinto bean chili.

Care to add to the mix whether the meat should be ground or chopped in
small pieces? My midwestern version has ground meat, of course. :-)

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Wayne Boatwright said:

On Sun 03 Jul 2005 12:43:55a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Sun 03 Jul 2005 12:23:54a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>> When I lived in Ohio I thought of chili as a cold weather food,
>> and rarely prepared it any other time except in winter. Here in
>> Arizona it's never cold enough to "qualify", so we disregard
>> seasonal dishes. However, I made a big pot of chili a couple of
>> weeks ago when it was 112 degrees outside. It was good!
>
> Sometimes, you just have to have chili 🙂

How true. I loved chili even when I didn't like soup. I love many
soups now, but I still love chili and sometimes I just need a "fix"!
:-)

Okay, here's a new debate. Pro beans or con? LOL

Okay, I was brought up on midwestern style chili, which would not be
chili without beans. My chili has evolved considerably from my
mother's recipe, but it still has beans. My preference is a mixture
of dark and light red kidney beans, although occasionally I make a
black bean chili to which I also add corn kernals. I don't care for
red bean or pinto bean chili.

Care to add to the mix whether the meat should be ground or chopped in
small pieces? My midwestern version has ground meat, of course. :-)

I was raised on chili *with* beans, ground beef. Of course you couldn't
exactly call my mom's chili "chili". 1 lb. ground beef, 2 cans kidney
beans, 2 cans Campbell's tomato soup, 2 soup cans of water. I don't think
she even added salt or pepper. Uh... love you Mom but please tell me you
aren't making chili 🙂

Personally, I don't care if the meat is ground or chopped, as long as there
is plenty of it. I like beans, too.

Jill