Geneviève Jeanson admits to doping

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There was an interview with Jeanson on the The National (CBC's nightly
news program) tonight. In it she admitted to taking EPO. She blames
her former coach André Aubut. The Sept. 20 edition of The National is
available online after 11pm EDT at
http://www.cbc.ca/national/latestbroadcast.html The Jeanson interview
starts at about 8 minutes or so in, after the story about the Canadian
dollar reaching par with the US dollar.

Try this: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2007/09/20/jeanson-doping.html

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There was an interview with Jeanson on the The National (CBC's nightly
news program) tonight. In it she admitted to taking EPO. She blames
her former coach André Aubut. The Sept. 20 edition of The National is
available online after 11pm EDT at
http://www.cbc.ca/national/latestbroadcast.html The Jeanson interview
starts at about 8 minutes or so in, after the story about the Canadian
dollar reaching par with the US dollar.

Try this: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2007/09/20/jeanson-doping.html

Awfully sad story. On one hand, she was coached by Abut from 15, and
first took EPO at 16. I can't blame a teenager that much for making bad
decisions.

ObCreepy: this report says she used to be married to Abut (!)

http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews/August/8.28.076.00PM43.shtml

Which, basically, is just wrong.

I thought it was quite nice that the CBC video report had quotes from
Sue Palmer-Komar saying, basically, "she stole from us."

Which is fair comment.

Also, the one report says Genevieve is running a restaurant in AZ, and
the CBC says she has an online bike shop.

-Is it both?

-What's the bike shop? A web screenshot is briefly shown in the video,
but I can't read any of the text. Only a rough idea of the layout.

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"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

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Amy Moore also spoke in English that she saw Aubut throw Jeanson's plate of
food across the room because she wasn't eating fast enough.

An eating TT (ETT). Now that's something the fatty masters would
excel at.

I am crushec a french canadian would do such things

Jason Spaceman said:

There was an interview with Jeanson on the The National (CBC's nightly
news program) tonight. In it she admitted to taking EPO. She blames
her former coach André Aubut. The Sept. 20 edition of The National is
available online after 11pm EDT at
http://www.cbc.ca/national/latestbroadcast.html The Jeanson interview
starts at about 8 minutes or so in, after the story about the Canadian
dollar reaching par with the US dollar.

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Living in Arizona I've seen her ride a
few times here. It was obvious, almost
immediately, that she was doping, on the
climbs. Abut, kept her as a prisoner,
because he was afraid she would
accidentally spill the beans. Abut, and
her parents are the monsters, it's
really sad that cycling can be turned
into such a horror story, but that seems
the way the sport is going. From one
horror story to the next.

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The English speaking 4 minute clip I saw this morning is only a fraction of
the 4 part interview Radio Canada aired. It's almost as small as their
Jeanson intro piece, which is a seperate fifth part, but even the Radio
Canada segments cut off in mid sentence and don't start up again in the same
place. It's like even these much larger segments are yet part of a larger
documentary which they cut out segments.

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The English speaking 4 minute clip I saw this morning is only a fraction of
the 4 part interview Radio Canada aired. It's almost as small as their
Jeanson intro piece, which is a seperate fifth part, but even the Radio
Canada segments cut off in mid sentence and don't start up again in the same
place. It's like even these much larger segments are yet part of a larger
documentary which they cut out segments.

I saw the whole thing on the French CBC website:
http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/cyclisme/2007/09/20/008-jeanson22h.shtml
which divides the full feature in 4 parts (except that they cut off
each part too early so there is some stuff missing). That is a great
report, they did a good job, and I think it must be very rare to to a
documentary where someone totally lies at the beginning and tells the
truth at the end, that doesn't even happen in court cases! In
particular, the first interview takes place in March 2007 and she
doesn't acknowledge her doping until months later.

My impression of Jeanson when she is in her "lying phase" of the
interview is that she is quite sophisticated in terms of her public
image, so is fairly negative. She comes off better in her later
confession. In general, she doesn't seem too different from the
screwed up female cyclists I've dealt with over the years, who had a
string of coaches or boyfriends to maintain their fragile egos. Her
Svengali coach is also (unfortunately) not so unusual.

On the other hand, what seems unusual to me is that she was given EPO
at the early age of 16. Apart from its dubious usefulness, it is
terrible to start a doping program at that early age when form is
continuing to develop. If doping has any justification, it should be
done when the athlete has already reached maximal form at a later
age.From that point of view, her case seems to have similarities with
Pantani's, in that they only knew doping, so for them cycling and
doping were the same thing, and they both could not understand why
they were hounded by the UCI and the press.

-ilan

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it must be very rare to to a
documentary where someone totally lies at the beginning and tells the
truth at the end, that doesn't even happen in court cases!

What about totally lying at the end and telling the truth at the beginning?

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Dan Connelly d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m said:

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it must be very rare to to a
documentary where someone totally lies at the beginning and tells the
truth at the end, that doesn't even happen in court cases!

What about totally lying at the end and telling the truth at the beginning?

"Aubut at first confirmed the drug story to Radio-Canada, but then
issued a denial."

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2007/09/20/jeanson-doping.html

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"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

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The English speaking 4 minute clip I saw this morning is only a fraction

of

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the 4 part interview Radio Canada aired. It's almost as small as their
Jeanson intro piece, which is a seperate fifth part, but even the Radio
Canada segments cut off in mid sentence and don't start up again in the

same

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place. It's like even these much larger segments are yet part of a

larger

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documentary which they cut out segments.

I saw the whole thing on the French CBC website:
http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/cyclisme/2007/09/20/008-jeanson22h.shtml
which divides the full feature in 4 parts (except that they cut off
each part too early so there is some stuff missing). That is a great
report, they did a good job, and I think it must be very rare to to a
documentary where someone totally lies at the beginning and tells the
truth at the end, that doesn't even happen in court cases! In
particular, the first interview takes place in March 2007 and she
doesn't acknowledge her doping until months later.

My impression of Jeanson when she is in her "lying phase" of the
interview is that she is quite sophisticated in terms of her public
image, so is fairly negative. She comes off better in her later
confession. In general, she doesn't seem too different from the
screwed up female cyclists I've dealt with over the years, who had a
string of coaches or boyfriends to maintain their fragile egos. Her
Svengali coach is also (unfortunately) not so unusual.

On the other hand, what seems unusual to me is that she was given EPO
at the early age of 16. Apart from its dubious usefulness, it is
terrible to start a doping program at that early age when form is
continuing to develop. If doping has any justification, it should be
done when the athlete has already reached maximal form at a later
age.From that point of view, her case seems to have similarities with
Pantani's, in that they only knew doping, so for them cycling and
doping were the same thing, and they both could not understand why
they were hounded by the UCI and the press.

-ilan

This is the best I have seen in English...

This is the best I have seen so far in English.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/13360.0.html

The program hinted, but never directly claimed, that Aubut was responsible
for administering the drug or forcing Jeanson to use EPO. His role in her
life, though briefly touched upon in the interview, remains foggy. While
Jeanson explained her method of stopping the drug five days before
competition to avoid getting caught, questions still surround how she passed
a large number of doping tests in her career.

Program producers promise to address those questions in next week's episode
of Enquête.

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The English speaking 4 minute clip I saw this morning is only a fraction

of

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the 4 part interview Radio Canada aired. It's almost as small as their
Jeanson intro piece, which is a seperate fifth part, but even the Radio
Canada segments cut off in mid sentence and don't start up again in the

same

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place. It's like even these much larger segments are yet part of a

larger

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documentary which they cut out segments.

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I saw the whole thing on the French CBC website:
http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/cyclisme/2007/09/20/008-jeanson22h....
which divides the full feature in 4 parts (except that they cut off
each part too early so there is some stuff missing). That is a great
report, they did a good job, and I think it must be very rare to to a
documentary where someone totally lies at the beginning and tells the
truth at the end, that doesn't even happen in court cases! In
particular, the first interview takes place in March 2007 and she
doesn't acknowledge her doping until months later.

Quoted message said:

My impression of Jeanson when she is in her "lying phase" of the
interview is that she is quite sophisticated in terms of her public
image, so is fairly negative. She comes off better in her later
confession. In general, she doesn't seem too different from the
screwed up female cyclists I've dealt with over the years, who had a
string of coaches or boyfriends to maintain their fragile egos. Her
Svengali coach is also (unfortunately) not so unusual.

Quoted message said:

On the other hand, what seems unusual to me is that she was given EPO
at the early age of 16. Apart from its dubious usefulness, it is
terrible to start a doping program at that early age when form is
continuing to develop. If doping has any justification, it should be
done when the athlete has already reached maximal form at a later
age.From that point of view, her case seems to have similarities with
Pantani's, in that they only knew doping, so for them cycling and
doping were the same thing, and they both could not understand why
they were hounded by the UCI and the press.

Quoted message said:

-ilan

This is the best I have seen in English...

This is the best I have seen so far in English.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/13360.0.html

The program hinted, but never directly claimed, that Aubut was responsible
for administering the drug or forcing Jeanson to use EPO. His role in her
life, though briefly touched upon in the interview, remains foggy. While
Jeanson explained her method of stopping the drug five days before
competition to avoid getting caught, questions still surround how she passed
a large number of doping tests in her career.

Program producers promise to address those questions in next week's episode
of Enquête.

GBMT

To underscore Aubut's badness, he first claimed that the decision to
take EPO was taken by them together, though he fails to realise that
at 16, Jeanson was not legally capable of making such decisions.

On the CBC French website there are other video clips, in particular
an interview with a Quebec coach after the programme aired. Among
other things, he states that it was difficult to intervene in the
destructive Jeanson-Aubut relation because of the equivocal position
of her entourage. In particular, despite all the problems, after she
qualified for the Olympics at the Canadian Championships, her father
rushed to hug Aubut and called him a genius.

One other impression from the show was the not very flattering
impression of Amy Moore, who was "scared" because Aubut started
yelling at Jeanson so left the room. Frankly, I consider that a
professional bike racer should have more gumption. Cathy Marsal and
Magali LeFloch come out pretty well, though Manon Jutra looks kind of
scary herself.

-ilan

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One other impression from the show was the not very flattering
impression of Amy Moore, who was "scared" because Aubut started
yelling at Jeanson so left the room. Frankly, I consider that a
professional bike racer should have more gumption. Cathy Marsal and
Magali LeFloch come out pretty well, though Manon Jutra looks kind of
scary herself.

I don't suppose people with much gumption fell in with Aubut in the
first place, or stayed with him. Le Floc'h at least had the excuse of
not being real familiar with the North American scene when she signed
with Rona, and she was gone to Quark the following year.

I wonder if anyone tried to interview the gumption-full Nicole
Freedman, who was on the very first Rona squad in 2001, as I recall?
She's never been shy about speaking her mind about ... anything.

MMan said:

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One other impression from the show was the not very flattering
impression of Amy Moore, who was "scared" because Aubut started
yelling at Jeanson so left the room. Frankly, I consider that a
professional bike racer should have more gumption. Cathy Marsal and
Magali LeFloch come out pretty well, though Manon Jutra looks kind of
scary herself.

I don't suppose people with much gumption fell in with Aubut in the
first place, or stayed with him. Le Floc'h at least had the excuse of
not being real familiar with the North American scene when she signed
with Rona, and she was gone to Quark the following year.

I wonder if anyone tried to interview the gumption-full Nicole
Freedman, who was on the very first Rona squad in 2001, as I recall?
She's never been shy about speaking her mind about ... anything.

Well, I've known Nicole almost from the start (in her first year of
bike racing), so I conjecture she would say something along the lines
of: "Oh yeah, him. He was a jerk, kind of like most coaches actually."
The reason is that she is one of the rare intelligent riders who don't
need much coaching so relationships with them can be sketchy.

-ilan

One thing Abut did right, was he didn't
go the t-patch route, and turn Jeanson
into a man, a la Tammy Thomas.
Personally I don't think Aubut gave a
rats ass about Jeanson's success or
failure. The cycling was just a scam he
used on her parents so he could act out
his sexual, physical violence and child
molestation fantasies. Without the
cycling backdrop Aubut would have been
put in prison, but instead he was called
a "coach." Cycling has attracted many
sexual deviants, look at Jonathan Boyer,
another french talking child molester.
How 'bout Jacques Anquetil, didn't he
end up marrying his daughter, while his
wife supported the relationship.

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The English speaking 4 minute clip I saw this morning is only a

fraction

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of

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the 4 part interview Radio Canada aired. It's almost as small as their
Jeanson intro piece, which is a seperate fifth part, but even the

Radio

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Canada segments cut off in mid sentence and don't start up again in

the

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same

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place. It's like even these much larger segments are yet part of a

larger

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documentary which they cut out segments.

Quoted message said:

I saw the whole thing on the French CBC website:
http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/cyclisme/2007/09/20/008-jeanson22h....
which divides the full feature in 4 parts (except that they cut off
each part too early so there is some stuff missing). That is a great
report, they did a good job, and I think it must be very rare to to a
documentary where someone totally lies at the beginning and tells the
truth at the end, that doesn't even happen in court cases! In
particular, the first interview takes place in March 2007 and she
doesn't acknowledge her doping until months later.

Quoted message said:

My impression of Jeanson when she is in her "lying phase" of the
interview is that she is quite sophisticated in terms of her public
image, so is fairly negative. She comes off better in her later
confession. In general, she doesn't seem too different from the
screwed up female cyclists I've dealt with over the years, who had a
string of coaches or boyfriends to maintain their fragile egos. Her
Svengali coach is also (unfortunately) not so unusual.

Quoted message said:

On the other hand, what seems unusual to me is that she was given EPO
at the early age of 16. Apart from its dubious usefulness, it is
terrible to start a doping program at that early age when form is
continuing to develop. If doping has any justification, it should be
done when the athlete has already reached maximal form at a later
age.From that point of view, her case seems to have similarities with
Pantani's, in that they only knew doping, so for them cycling and
doping were the same thing, and they both could not understand why
they were hounded by the UCI and the press.

Quoted message said:

-ilan

This is the best I have seen in English...

This is the best I have seen so far in English.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/13360.0.html

The program hinted, but never directly claimed, that Aubut was responsible
for administering the drug or forcing Jeanson to use EPO. His role in her
life, though briefly touched upon in the interview, remains foggy. While
Jeanson explained her method of stopping the drug five days before
competition to avoid getting caught, questions still surround how she

passed

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a large number of doping tests in her career.

Program producers promise to address those questions in next week's

episode

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of Enquête.

GBMT

To underscore Aubut's badness, he first claimed that the decision to
take EPO was taken by them together, though he fails to realise that
at 16, Jeanson was not legally capable of making such decisions.

On the CBC French website there are other video clips, in particular
an interview with a Quebec coach after the programme aired. Among
other things, he states that it was difficult to intervene in the
destructive Jeanson-Aubut relation because of the equivocal position
of her entourage. In particular, despite all the problems, after she
qualified for the Olympics at the Canadian Championships, her father
rushed to hug Aubut and called him a genius.

One other impression from the show was the not very flattering
impression of Amy Moore, who was "scared" because Aubut started
yelling at Jeanson so left the room. Frankly, I consider that a
professional bike racer should have more gumption. Cathy Marsal and
Magali LeFloch come out pretty well, though Manon Jutra looks kind of
scary herself.

-ilan

Well, Vos's father looks like Frankenstein too, so Jutra's probably just has
those kind of features in her face.

Vos's father...
http://tinyurl.com/yu5up3

Marsal went off on Aubut years ago, she speaks her mind!
http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews/January/1.26.069.47AM23.shtml

I don't have an address for this, but a few more facts here, especially the
upcoming segments on who did what, and when.

by John Symon

September 21, 2007 (Montreal, QC) - Yesterday Geneviève Jeanson, formerly
Canada's Golden Girl of cycling. admitted to having doped with EPO "almost
all of her career." The admission was made on Radio Canada's French-language
TV program, Enquete, that aired yesterday at 9 pm.

The program, animated by Alain Gravel, incorporated several recent
interviews with Jeanson, who now lives in Phoenix, Arizona. In the earlier
interviews, Jeanson, emphatically and aggressively denies ever doping. Then,
as the program unfolds, the inconsistencies in Jeanson's comments become
apparent.

Ultimately she admits to regularly using erythropoietin (EPO) since she was
16-years-old. The Enquete program depicts interviews with many people in
Jeanson's entourage, some of whom contradict themselves at times, such as
her former coach, Andre Aubut. Her doctor, Maurice Duquette, also
contradicts himself as to whether he ever administered EPO to the cyclist
and then becomes evasive. We also learn that Jeanson had a verbally abusive
relationship with Aubut including suggestions of physical violence, and that
Jeanson, now 26, married Aubut in 2006 but divorced him six months later.

Jeanson's bubble began to burst when she was tested at the 2003 Hamilton
Road World Championships in 2003 and recorded extremely high hematocrit (HC)
levels - a measure of the proportion of blood volume that is occupied by red
blood cells. On the program we learn that her HC level was 56%, well above
the normal range of 37-47% for an adult female. During the broadcast Jeanson
initially claims that sleeping in a hypoxic tent (with low oxygen content)
360 nights a year was responsible for producing this 56% result. But experts
scoff at the suggestion that sleeping in a hypoxic tent could produce such a
result, and close friends claim to have never seen Jeanson in such a tent.

One of her supporters, Dr. Ivan Simoneau, authored a report explaining how
Jeanson could naturally have a high HC, but he was apparently unaware of
just how high it was. When told it was 56%, Simoneau is silenced and
eventually proclaims "it's enormous. And dangerous." Similarly, Jeanson's
official spokesman, Daniel Larouche, eventually has to admit that the
cyclist probably doped.

More cracks appeared when Jeanson missed a doping test at the 2004
Fleche-Wallone race in Belgium. Then at the 2005 Tour of Toona, Jeanson
tested positive for EPO, leading to a life-time ban by the United States
Anti-Doping Agency (USADA). Jeanson, although a Canadian citizen, held a
U.S. racing licence and was thus subject to American disciplinary
procedures.

At the time, Jeanson continued to deny any doping and fought the suspension
eventually brokering a deal with USADA, and agreed to a two-year ban that
would have expired in July, 2007, but in December 2006, Jeanson declared
that she "would never race again."

"I took it (EPO). In Hamilton, on Mount Royal, almost all year long. You
only have to abstain from taking it five days before (the control) and
you're OK," states Jeanson during the program. Later she adds, "I did what I
was told to do and wasn't brave enough to say no. I regret it all. I lied to
those who believed in me."

She distinguished herself in her career by earning double gold at the 1999
Junior Road World championships winning the road race and time trial,
competing at the 2000 Olympics, winning the Montreal Women's Road World Cup
four times, and winning the 2005 Canadian Road Championships.

The Enquete program continues next Thursday, Sept. 27, looking at other
questions surrounding the Jeanson case. The next broadcast will examine
unanswered questions including:

- who injected her with EPO?
- when & where did these injections take place?
- what was the role of Dr. Maurice Duquette?
- who in her entourage knew about the doping?
- what role if any did her sponsor, Rona, play in all this?

Poignantly, as the interviews progress chronologically over several months
in the program, Jeanson's hair begins to change colour. Like a metaphor, the
golden girl dyes her hair to first show touches of blue. By the end of the
program, her hair seems to be a rainbow of every colour except gold.

In the past 24 hours, Floyd Landis was stripped of his 2006 TdF winner's
title following his conviction on a doping charge, but no official
announcements have been made as to whether Jeanson will be stripped of any
of her titles.

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One other impression from the show was the not very flattering
impression of Amy Moore, who was "scared" because Aubut started
yelling at Jeanson so left the room. Frankly, I consider that a
professional bike racer should have more gumption. Cathy Marsal and
Magali LeFloch come out pretty well, though Manon Jutra looks kind of
scary herself.

I don't suppose people with much gumption fell in with Aubut in the
first place, or stayed with him. Le Floc'h at least had the excuse of
not being real familiar with the North American scene when she signed
with Rona, and she was gone to Quark the following year.

I wonder if anyone tried to interview the gumption-full Nicole
Freedman, who was on the very first Rona squad in 2001, as I recall?
She's never been shy about speaking her mind about ... anything.

Well, I've known Nicole almost from the start (in her first year of
bike racing), so I conjecture she would say something along the lines
of: "Oh yeah, him. He was a jerk, kind of like most coaches actually."
The reason is that she is one of the rare intelligent riders who don't
need much coaching so relationships with them can be sketchy.

-ilan

Yeah, she is smart. I heard she got her own grant and team setup with team
Basic. Doesn't she have a MIT degree? Anyway, I have spoke with Nicole
several times, she's funny, fun to be around and seems pretty well educated.

GBMT

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MMan said:

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One other impression from the show was the not very flattering
impression of Amy Moore, who was "scared" because Aubut started
yelling at Jeanson so left the room. Frankly, I consider that a
professional bike racer should have more gumption. Cathy Marsal and
Magali LeFloch come out pretty well, though Manon Jutra looks kind of
scary herself.

I don't suppose people with much gumption fell in with Aubut in the
first place, or stayed with him. Le Floc'h at least had the excuse of
not being real familiar with the North American scene when she signed
with Rona, and she was gone to Quark the following year.

I wonder if anyone tried to interview the gumption-full Nicole
Freedman, who was on the very first Rona squad in 2001, as I recall?
She's never been shy about speaking her mind about ... anything.

Well, I've known Nicole almost from the start (in her first year of
bike racing), so I conjecture she would say something along the lines
of: "Oh yeah, him. He was a jerk, kind of like most coaches actually."
The reason is that she is one of the rare intelligent riders who don't
need much coaching so relationships with them can be sketchy.

Well, without wanting to impugn the personalities of all coaches
everywhere, I think it's fair to say that it's quite reasonable for a
coach to be a "jerk" from time to time. Sometimes the whole purpose of a
coach is to provide external motivation or instruction when a rider's
extrinsic motivation, for whatever reason, falters.

I'm talking about the rider who wants to skip a set of intervals in
March, or doesn't look like trying to bridge to the break, or whatever.
Sometimes the coach just has to do some yelling, and things happen.

There's no coaching-based replacement for natural talent, but motivation
can often be imbued from the outside.

And pro sport provides many examples of coaches who were hated by their
players, but who have a lot of championships (winning tends to improve
any relationship...)

Now, what separates Aubut from the coaches who are jerks is that he
guided a 16-year-old rider into doping, and I find it more than a little
eyebrow-raising that he married her as well.

About his coaching techniques, that's all I really know about Aubut, but
it kinda has to trump anything else, doesn't it?

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Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

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I love how everyone feels so sorry for Geneviéve. She won more races
than anyone else in North America...went to the Olympics...made hundreds
of thousands of dollars before she turned 25. And everyone talks about
how bad and horrible her life was.

I got news for you - I don't see any reason to feel sorry for her, let
alone for having defined abs or being "quiet."

People are way too preoccupied with her relationship with Aubut.

Magilla

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You have a point. If Aubut wouldn't
have shot her up with the dope, we
wouldn't even know her name.

Ryan Cousineau schreef:

Quoted message said:

About his coaching techniques, that's all I really know about Aubut, but
it kinda has to trump anything else, doesn't it?

Well, he is a gym teacher.
http://www.dailypeloton.com/displayarticle.asp?pk=706

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E. Dronkert