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  1. Just got a slightly used Challenge Hurricaine. Has 9 speeds
    and a mountain drive on the front axel.
    (www.schlumpf.ch/md_engl.htm). I had the local bikeshop put
    it together. I'm wondering if they could have done something
    wrong in set-up or if there is another explanation to my
    problem. The problem is that I basically have one gear (#9).
    Everything below #9 goes from too easy (#8 and 7) to "maybe
    if I was going up Mt. Everest this would be good" easy
    (gears 6 to 1).

    I can't imagine a bike with such great reviews would be like
    this. Engaging the montain-drive only made peddling easier.

    Any thoughtd, recommendations or suggestions would be
    greatly appreciated.

    Thanks - Dave

  2. [email hidden] (DavesNotHere) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Just got a slightly used Challenge Hurricaine. Has 9
    speeds and a mountain drive on the front axel.
    (www.schlumpf.ch/md_engl.htm). I had the local bikeshop
    put it together. I'm wondering if they could have done
    something wrong in set-up or if there is another
    explanation to my problem. The problem is that I basically
    have one gear (#9). Everything below #9 goes from too easy
    (#8 and 7) to "maybe if I was going up Mt. Everest this
    would be good" easy (gears 6 to 1).

    I can't imagine a bike with such great reviews would be
    like this. Engaging the montain-drive only made
    peddling easier.

    Any thoughtd, recommendations or suggestions would be
    greatly appreciated.

    Thanks - Dave

    It would be helpful to know how many teeth are on the
    cassette cogs in the rear and the chainring in the front.

    Combining a Mountain Drive with a 20" drive wheel is darn
    strange unless you plan on pulling trucks out of ditches.
    Are you sure you didn't want a Speed Drive
    schlumpf.chsd engl.htm ?

    Jeff

  3. (Jeff Wills) said:

    Combining a Mountain Drive with a 20" drive wheel is darn
    strange unless you plan on pulling trucks out of ditches.
    Are you sure you didn't want a Speed Drive
    schlumpf.chsd engl.htm ?

    Jeff

    Actually, Jeff, it's not strange at all. I have a MD on my
    Pharobike, with a 65T chainring and an 11-32 cassette.

    This gives me a gear range of something like 17-108 gear
    inches (depends on the tire I'm using). Much wider than is
    possible with derailleurs with that size wheel.

    The problem with the SD is that the overdrive ratio isn't
    that large, so you don't get the wide range of gearing
    (which is really the point of going to the MD in the
    first place).

    I may at some point pick up the new HSD, which gives a 2.5x
    overdrive...same amount as the MD only in reverse...so I can
    keep my wide range gearing. It would also save a fair bit of
    weight and improve the chain lines.

    Andy Douglas Catrike

  4. [email hidden] (Andrew Douglas) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (Jeff Wills) said:

    Combining a Mountain Drive with a 20" drive wheel is
    darn strange unless you plan on pulling trucks out of
    ditches. Are you sure you didn't want a Speed Drive
    schlumpf.chsd engl.htm ?

    Jeff

    Actually, Jeff, it's not strange at all. I have a MD on my
    Pharobike, with a 65T chainring and an 11-32 cassette.

    This gives me a gear range of something like 17-108 gear
    inches (depends on the tire I'm using). Much wider than is
    possible with derailleurs with that size wheel.

    The problem with the SD is that the overdrive ratio isn't
    that large, so you don't get the wide range of gearing
    (which is really the point of going to the MD in the
    first place).

    I may at some point pick up the new HSD, which gives a
    2.5x overdrive...same amount as the MD only in
    reverse...so I can keep my wide range gearing. It
    would also save a fair bit of weight and improve the
    chain lines.

    Andy Douglas Catrike

    Here's the latest: Took the bike back to my LBS this
    afternoon. Got someone who was a little smarter about bikes
    this time. He confirmed that the mountain-drive was not
    engaging in the direct-drive mode. I'm rolling the dice and
    hoping they can fix it since they readily admitted it was
    nothing they knew about. I printed the manual for them, so
    hopefully that will help. Thanks for your input and
    suggestions - Dave

  5. Andrew Douglas said:

    Actually, Jeff, it's not strange at all. I have a MD on my
    Pharobike, with a 65T chainring and an 11-32 cassette.

    This gives me a gear range of something like 17-108 gear
    inches (depends on the tire I'm using). Much wider than is
    possible with derailleurs with that size wheel....

    My Sunset [1] has the same size wheels as the Pharobike
    Lowfat, but the use of the 13/20 step-up combined with a
    44/32/22 crank and 11-34 cassette provides a gearing range
    of 19-120 inches.

    Thank you for providing me with yet another opportunity to
    post something about my Sunset. 😉

    [1] < ihpva.orgSunset001.
    jpg >, < ihpva.orgSun
    set005.jpg >.

    --
    Tom Sherman – Quad Cities (Illinois Side)

  6. What size is your front sprocket?

    --
    Ian

    catrike.co.ukcatrike.co.uk

    Quoted message said:

    From: [email hidden] (DavesNotHere)
    Organization: groups.google.comgroups.google.com Newsgroups:
    alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent Date: 25 Apr 2004 15:07:50 -
    0700 Subject: Gearing Question - Need Expert Insights

    Just got a slightly used Challenge Hurricaine. Has 9
    speeds and a mountain drive on the front axel.
    (www.schlumpf.ch/md_engl.htm). I had the local bikeshop
    put it together. I'm wondering if they could have done
    something wrong in set-up or if there is another
    explanation to my problem. The problem is that I basically
    have one gear (#9). Everything below #9 goes from too easy
    (#8 and 7) to "maybe if I was going up Mt. Everest this
    would be good" easy (gears 6 to 1).

    I can't imagine a bike with such great reviews would be
    like this. Engaging the montain-drive only made
    peddling easier.

    Any thoughtd, recommendations or suggestions would be
    greatly appreciated.

    Thanks - Dave

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