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Geared Unicycles, an easer way?

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  1. Has anyone made a modern version of this design, it looks as if it would
    be functional and relatively easy to construct?

    'Link!' (http://tinyurl.com/zq9by)

    I haven't seen a thread about this in the past two years, sorry if it's
    already been discussed.

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  2. Ah, so that's what the purple phaze is based on, I've never seen a photo
    of it.

    In that case, this thread might as well be left to die, it looks like
    the idea has already been resurrected.

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  3. George Barnes made a similar design within the last few years. Peter's
    is rather current. They differ from Pete Perron's PurplePhaze and
    OutaPhaze projects in that they don't employ a jackshaft through the
    hub. Dave Stockton sells the Perron designs I think.

    If you look at Peter's design and picture the elevated cranks on the
    frame being replaced by two chain cogs on only one side of the frame
    with an axle that runs through the hub you start to get the idea. The
    axle has a cog attached to it. The axle goes through bearings in the
    hub and the hub has a cog attached to it. Two short chains run, one
    from the jackshaft to the first frame cog and one from the second frame
    cog to the hub. It's a sweet, strong, simple design.

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  4. George Barnes made a geared unicycle with that design. Thread about it
    is here: 'Another geared unicycle...'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40534)
    Unfortunately, all the links in that thread are dead so I'll attach one
    of the pictures here.

    +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |Filename: GB4 - gear_uni1.jpg |
    |Download: http://www.unicyclist.com/attachment/13784 |
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  5. Can anyone explain the Jackshaft to me? It looks the same or at least
    similar to the other designs... but it sounds different from the
    disscussion about it...

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  6. are these possible to buy?

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  7. mornish said:

    are these possible to buy?

    Yes, but currently development of them is on temporary hold. The price
    is unknown at this time.

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  8. Though the finished product should be cheaper than a Schlumpf, unless
    they are made in large numbers they probably won't be much cheaper. The
    upside will be that they are mechanically simpler, so you won't be dead
    in the water if something breaks inside your hub. But otherwise I'd go
    straight to the much more elegant, lighter and *shiftable* Schlumpf
    design.

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  9. johnfoss said:

    Though the finished product should be cheaper than a Schlumpf, unless
    they are made in large numbers they probably won't be much cheaper. The
    upside will be that they are mechanically simpler, so you won't be dead
    in the water if something breaks inside your hub. But otherwise I'd go
    straight to the much more elegant, lighter and *shiftable* Schlumpf
    design.

    The engineer in me cringes at the way you are throwing around these
    terms, John, with no substantiation or justification.

    About the only thing I could agree with is that the Phaze approach is
    "mechanically simpler". However, that does not guarantee not being
    "dead in the water" if a hub part breaks. Field (or non-factory)
    serviceability must be designed into any device to be effective.

    The cost of an item of whatever complexity is not just a function of
    number of parts, but of demand, production line, material costs, and
    many other factors. It is often the case that a simpler thing costs
    more than a more complex thing. For an extreme example, a diamond is
    likely to cost more than a pencil, despite the pencil being more
    complex.

    "Elegance" is a subjective term, but to an engineer, elegance is a
    combination of strength, simplicity, effectiveness, serviceability,
    ruggedness, weatherproofness, appearance, and other factors.
    Oftentimes, a customer only realizes an item's elegance when he finds
    that servicing it is easy, or he finds that his product fails much less
    often than a competitor's product.

    Lighter - I haven't seen any data or setup that allows the two designs
    to be compared weight-wise. Have you?

    The Purple/Outta Phaze setup is shiftable, moreso than the Schumpf.
    Perhaps you meant shiftable-while-riding?

    Thanks for listening to my comments.

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  10. For a large wheel, the assembly could possibly be inverted, meaning that
    the axis of the pedal/crank apparatus was lower than the axle/spindle
    of the wheel.

    On the other hand, that would produce minimum inseam problems. Would
    be interesting, though - a low profile "dropped" Coker...😎

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