Garmin Forerunner 301

"TG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Hello...hope someone has an answer for me.

I recently replaced my polar heart monitor with a Garmin Forerunner
301. I chose this product mainly because I have added outside running
to my workouts.

The Garmin Forerunner states that it calculates calories. I used it
for a race several weeks ago and it was great. HOWEVER, when I am
inside with the GPS OFF, it doesn't calculate calories. This makes the
device worthless to me. 50% of my workouts are inside. Does the
calorie expenditure (however accurate/inaccurate as it may be) depend
on the GPS being on?

Thanks for any insight!!

One mile walked or ran burns about 100 calories. There's no
need for the unit to have to tell you that.

cheers,
--
David Hirsh, director
www.absolutelyaccurate.com
Southern Ontario's Summer Race Series!

Thanks for the reply, but I don't agree. It depends on a lot of
things: weight, heart rate, etc. I do more than just run; I use all
different types of stationary cardio machines as well and I do free
weights.

Thanks,

TG

TG said:

Thanks for the reply, but I don't agree. It depends on a lot of
things: weight, heart rate, etc. I do more than just run; I use all
different types of stationary cardio machines as well and I do free
weights.

Thanks,

TG

You might check your owner's manual to see if it estimates calories
burned on distance or hr. It sounds like it might use distance, maybe
with some hr modification. So if gps is off, then no calorie estimate.

Or there may be an option you have to turn off/on to get it to use hr
rather than distance.

I don't know - just making a suggestion where to look. You might also
check http://gpsathletes.com/, if you don't get an answer here and can't
find something in the manual or their web page. (I use a Polar 625
outdoors and indoors so not familiar with Garmin 301, but have been a
little curious as to how it estimates calories. I think the earlier
versions - without the hrm - also calculate calories suggesting that
maybe it's gps linked.)

Dot

--
"A winner is just a loser who tried one more time." -Captain George M.
Moore, Jr., United States Air Force (retired),
http://www.avdlm.com/press.php?page=stories&storyid=1

You're out of luck I'm afraid. The F301 does its calorie calculations using
the GPS data. So inside no GPS signal no calories.

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Quoted message said:

Hello...hope someone has an answer for me.

I recently replaced my polar heart monitor with a Garmin Forerunner
301. I chose this product mainly because I have added outside running
to my workouts.

The Garmin Forerunner states that it calculates calories. I used it
for a race several weeks ago and it was great. HOWEVER, when I am
inside with the GPS OFF, it doesn't calculate calories. This makes the
device worthless to me. 50% of my workouts are inside. Does the
calorie expenditure (however accurate/inaccurate as it may be) depend
on the GPS being on?

Thanks for any insight!!

TG

Quoted message said:

Hello...hope someone has an answer for me.

I recently replaced my polar heart monitor with a Garmin Forerunner
301. I chose this product mainly because I have added outside running
to my workouts.

The Garmin Forerunner states that it calculates calories. I used it
for a race several weeks ago and it was great. HOWEVER, when I am
inside with the GPS OFF, it doesn't calculate calories. This makes the
device worthless to me. 50% of my workouts are inside. Does the
calorie expenditure (however accurate/inaccurate as it may be) depend
on the GPS being on?

I have a Forerunner 201 and a Polar S610i. Both have their calorie
epxpenditure formulas and both come out to roughly 100 Kcal/mile for my
weight. As David mentioned, estimating at 100 calories per minute
(regardless of pace) is close enough for most purposes.

If you really want to get into messing with formulas and you can start with
this rec.running gem from Sam Callan http://tinyurl.com/7kz5x or for the
entire thread http://tinyurl.com/cssvz.

--
Phil M.

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I have a Forerunner 201 and a Polar S610i. Both have their calorie
epxpenditure formulas and both come out to roughly 100 Kcal/mile for my
weight. As David mentioned, estimating at 100 calories per minute
(regardless of pace) is close enough for most purposes.

er... would that be per mile?

bj said:

Phil said:

estimating at 100 calories per minute

er... would that be per mile?

Now that Phil's an ultra runner, he thinks in time not distance. :-)

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I have a Forerunner 201 and a Polar S610i. Both have their calorie
epxpenditure formulas and both come out to roughly 100 Kcal/mile for my
weight. As David mentioned, estimating at 100 calories per minute
(regardless of pace) is close enough for most purposes.

er... would that be per mile?

I guess I misquoted David. But aren't his miles pretty close to 1 minute?
;-)

--
Phil M.

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Now that Phil's an ultra runner, he thinks in time not distance. :-)

Yeah right. You know it could be about 100 Kcal/min on a steep course w/ 50
pounds of gear and 10 pound shoes w/ caked on mud (Dot style).

--
Phil M.

garmin doesn't know your calorie expenditures any more than anyone in this
group does. 100 kcal per mile is about as accurate as you are going to get,
and that's probably what the forerunner uses. personally, i think it's good
mainly for estimating mileage and finding your way back to the start when
running in a strange location.