I think I have what is called a ganglion cyst. It is on top of the tibialis anterior tendon, right under the top lacing on my shoe. I'll try running without lacing up the top 4 eyelets, since this would make the top lacing below the cyst. My guess is that this was caused by lacing my shoes too tightly and too high. It is especially painful when running downhill. Anyone else have this problem? Did you change your lacing?
Phil M.
-- "Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself." Martin Vanbee
My guess is that this was caused by lacing my shoes too tightly and too high. It is especially painful when running downhill. Anyone else have this problem? Did you change your lacing?
I had that problem, and it WAS painful, and alternative lacing didn't really help. What DID help, though, is to lace as normal, but when I went to tie the bow, I slid the knot over to be on top of the eyelet, thus, the knot was NOT on the tongue of the shoe.
Solved my problem until it healed (which took quite a while).
The reason I tied my shoes tightly was because the laces kept on coming undone. Then (duh) I started double lacing them. Wish I had thought of that before, I mean, I do it to my kids shoes every day.
My guess is that this was caused by lacing my shoes too tightly and too high. It is especially painful when running downhill. Anyone else have this problem? Did you change your lacing?
I had that problem, and it WAS painful, and alternative lacing didn't really help. What DID help, though, is to lace as normal, but when I went to tie the bow, I slid the knot over to be on top of the eyelet, thus, the knot was NOT on the tongue of the shoe.
Thanks for the response. I just tried this and went for a short run. I still felt the pressure and pain on that spot. When I have the shoe laced up to just the 4th eyelet it relieves the pain. I'll see how this works for tomorrow's 17-miler.
Phil M.
-- "Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself." Martin Vanbee
went to tie the bow, I slid the knot over to be on top of the eyelet, thus, the knot was NOT on the tongue of the shoe.
Thanks for the response. I just tried this and went for a short run. I still felt the pressure and pain on that spot. When I have the shoe laced up to just the 4th eyelet it relieves the pain. I'll see how this works
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tomorrow's 17-miler.
Too bad! It worked for me. I know how painful it is. By the way, among the hockey crowd, it's called "skater's bite", but there's not much on it on the net, there must be another term for it.
I think I have what is called a ganglion cyst. It is on top of the tibialis anterior tendon, right under the top lacing on my shoe.
I had one on the bottom of my foot. Not real painful, but pretty uncomfortable. It mysteriously dissapeared as mysteriously as it appeared after a few months.
You have probably tried this already, but when this happened to me I used "split-tension" in the tying. Lace most of the shoe up firmly, then tie the beginning of a regular shoe knot (just the end over and under end part) this will hold the tension in the bottom half of the shoe. Then lace the top eyelet more lossoely and tie it gently to prevent aggravating the cyst. When I had this the only permanent solution was a different pair of shoes. No idea what the difference was between the two pairs though. Good luck, Trevor
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went to tie the bow, I slid the knot over to be on top of the eyelet, thus, the knot was NOT on the tongue of the shoe.
Thanks for the response. I just tried this and went for a short run. I still felt the pressure and pain on that spot. When I have the shoe
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up to just the 4th eyelet it relieves the pain. I'll see how this works
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tomorrow's 17-miler.
Too bad! It worked for me. I know how painful it is. By the way, among the hockey crowd, it's called "skater's bite", but there's not much on it
When I had this the only permanent solution was a different pair of shoes.
The Dr said there was nothing that would really make a difference (it will go away when it's damn good N' ready) in how long it will effect you. I suspect the different shoes took the pressure off of the area where the cyst was, but made no difference in recovery time. It disapeared overnight with me.
You have probably tried this already, but when this happened to me I used "split-tension" in the tying. Lace most of the shoe up firmly, then tie the beginning of a regular shoe knot (just the end over and under end part) this will hold the tension in the bottom half of the shoe. Then lace the top eyelet more lossoely and tie it gently to prevent aggravating the cyst. When I had this the only permanent solution was a different pair of shoes. No idea what the difference was between the two pairs though. Good luck, Trevor
I finished the 17-miler in good shape. I sort of did what you recommended. I laced the shoe up to the fourth eyelet, tied a bow right there with normal size loops but real long ends. I took the ends and finished lacing up to the top, but with zero pressure, then tied another bow. I felt a little pressure at first, but it went away after a mile. The only problem is that the shoe felt extremely lose near the end of the run. The fact that it was soaked with sweat didn't help either. I'm really looking forward to cooler temperatures.
Phil M.
-- "Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself." Martin Vanbee
Glad it helped. Perhaps re-tying is necessary for those long runs. It might be the shoes... It rained here all weekend, making for sloppy runs in the morning. I would rather have the heat. Trevor
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You have probably tried this already, but when this happened to me I used "split-tension" in the tying. Lace most of the shoe up firmly, then tie the beginning of a regular shoe knot (just the end over and under end part) this will hold the tension in the bottom half of the shoe. Then lace the top eyelet more lossoely and tie it gently to prevent aggravating the cyst. When I had this the only permanent solution was a different pair of shoes. No idea what the difference was between the two pairs though. Good luck, Trevor
I finished the 17-miler in good shape. I sort of did what you recommended. I laced the shoe up to the fourth eyelet, tied a bow right there with normal size loops but real long ends. I took the ends and finished lacing up to the top, but with zero pressure, then tied another bow. I felt a little pressure at first, but it went away after a mile. The only problem is that the shoe felt extremely lose near the end of the run. The fact that it was soaked with sweat didn't help either. I'm really looking forward to cooler temperatures.
Phil M.
-- "Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself." Martin Vanbee
It rained here all weekend, making for sloppy runs in the morning. I would rather have the heat.
Heat is a distance runner's worst enemy. FWIW, from Bob Glover's book, a rule of thumb is that you will lose about 1 second per mile per degree above 60.
Phil M.
-- "Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself." Martin Vanbee
I finished the 17-miler in good shape. I sort of did what you recommended. I laced the shoe up to the fourth eyelet, tied a bow right there with normal size loops but real long ends. I took the ends and finished lacing up to the top, but with zero pressure, then tied another bow. I felt a little pressure at first, but it went away after a mile. The only problem is that the shoe felt extremely lose near the end of the run. The fact that it was soaked with sweat didn't help either. I'm really looking forward to cooler temperatures.
Wouldn't it be just as easy to skip the loop(s) near the pressure point and not play the two lace game?
I finished the 17-miler in good shape. I sort of did what you recommended. I laced the shoe up to the fourth eyelet, tied a bow right there with normal size loops but real long ends. I took the ends and finished lacing up to the top, but with zero pressure, then tied another bow. I felt a little pressure at first, but it went away after a mile. The only problem is that the shoe felt extremely lose near the end of the run. The fact that it was soaked with sweat didn't help either. I'm really looking forward to cooler temperatures.
Wouldn't it be just as easy to skip the loop(s) near the pressure point and not play the two lace game?
Not really. The second bow is simply a place to put the extra lacing
Phil M.
-- "Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself." Martin Vanbee
