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  1. There's a small (potential-)user survey on the European satellite navigation
    system Galileo at the National Space Centre's web site
    http://www.spacenow.org.uk/galileo/ . It's apparently meant to feed into
    the Department of Transport's input into the project.

    I've got nothing to do with them; just thought some might be interested.

    By the way, does anybody know if the current GPS receivers will be able
    to work with the Galileo system, ie is the hardware built with tuning to
    a different frequency in mind?
    --
    Rudi Winter, Aberystwyth, Wales

  2. In article <[email hidden]>, Rudi Winter
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    By the way, does anybody know if the current GPS receivers will be able
    to work with the Galileo system, ie is the hardware built with tuning to
    a different frequency in mind?

    No. However many of the current receivers will have been retired by the
    time it is ready. The last announcement said 2012!

    --

    Dominic Sexton

  3. Dominic Sexton said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Rudi Winter
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    By the way, does anybody know if the current GPS receivers will be
    able to work with the Galileo system, ie is the hardware built with
    tuning to a different frequency in mind?

    No. However many of the current receivers will have been retired by
    the time it is ready. The last announcement said 2012!

    Galileo receivers will use GPS satellites too but GPS receivers won't
    use Galileo sats.

    Chris
    --
    Chris Eilbeck
    MARS Flight Crew http://www.mars.org.uk/
    UKRA #1108 Level 2 UYB
    Tripoli UK Member #9527 LSMR

  4. Ysgrifennodd "Rudi Winter" <[email hidden]> mewn neges
    newyddion:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    There's a small (potential-)user survey on the European satellite
    navigation
    system Galileo at the National Space Centre's web site
    http://www.spacenow.org.uk/galileo/ . It's apparently meant to feed into
    the Department of Transport's input into the project.

    I've got nothing to do with them; just thought some might be interested.

    By the way, does anybody know if the current GPS receivers will be able
    to work with the Galileo system, ie is the hardware built with tuning to
    a different frequency in mind?
    --
    Rudi Winter, Aberystwyth, Wales

    Good thing is that in answer to:-
    5) Which use of Galileo interests you the most?

    Outdoor pursuits has the highest proportion, outstripping even the incar
    navigation brigade.

    T Dave R

    --

    Walker Gee.pee.ess
    www.walkeryri.org.uk

  5. "Dafydd Ap Arwyn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Good thing is that in answer to:-
    5) Which use of Galileo interests you the most?

    Outdoor pursuits has the highest proportion, outstripping even the incar
    navigation brigade.

    T Dave R

    The survey should have an option for "stop wasting my tax money duplicating
    something the Americans give me for free anyway!" Or have I missed
    something?

  6. On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:55:16 +0100, "Michael" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    | The survey should have an option for "stop wasting my tax money duplicating
    | something the Americans give me for free anyway!" Or have I missed
    | something?

    Yes the insurance industry agrees with me that the US DoD might pull GPS
    at a moments notice, so one can not use it on safety critical things.
    Galileo will make its money from safety critical applications, as part of
    the autopilot systems of aircraft, ships and the like.

    --
    Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk>
    The London suicide bombers killed innocent commuters.
    Animal rights terrorists and activists kill innocent patients.

  7. Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the
    wonderful person Dave Fawthrop <[email hidden]>
    said

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:55:16 +0100, "Michael" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    | The survey should have an option for "stop wasting my tax money duplicating
    | something the Americans give me for free anyway!" Or have I missed
    | something?

    Yes the insurance industry agrees with me that the US DoD might pull GPS
    at a moments notice, so one can not use it on safety critical things.
    Galileo will make its money from safety critical applications, as part of
    the autopilot systems of aircraft, ships and the like.

    Hmm, Ok so something the Americans designed =MIGHT= get turned off.
    Whereas something the French and Italians built =WILL= have bugs in, be
    over budget, and arrive late (if at all). 8>. (c.f. WAAS vs. EGNOS,
    right?)

    --
    GSV Three Minds in a Can
    Contact recommends the use of Firefox; SC recommends it at gunpoint.

  8. GSV Three Minds in a Can bashed at the keyboard and came up with:

    Quoted message said:

    Hmm, Ok so something the Americans designed =MIGHT= get turned off.
    Whereas something the French and Italians built =WILL= have bugs in, be
    over budget, and arrive late (if at all). 8>. (c.f. WAAS vs. EGNOS,
    right?)

    Oh yes, the quality of french, coupled with the Italians, I can see your
    point.

  9. Dominic Sexton said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Rudi Winter
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    By the way, does anybody know if the current GPS receivers will be able
    to work with the Galileo system, ie is the hardware built with tuning to
    a different frequency in mind?

    No. However many of the current receivers will have been retired by the
    time it is ready.

    True - or lost!

    Quoted message said:

    The last announcement said 2012!

    I thought that was when it's supposed to be ready to be entrusted with
    critical services.
    --
    Rudi Winter, Aberystwyth, Wales

  10. Dafydd Ap Arwyn said:

    Good thing is that in answer to:-
    5) Which use of Galileo interests you the most?

    Outdoor pursuits has the highest proportion, outstripping even the incar
    navigation brigade.

    Yes, I was quite surprised about that too. The question about whether
    train protection or road charging was more likely to benefit us is a
    bit weird, I thought. Turkeys and Christmas spring to mind...
    --
    Rudi Winter, Aberystwyth, Wales

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