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Like BB, I really did LOL. Brilliant. 🙂

You think so? Childish bickering is one thing, but revelling in the

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:25:08 +0100, bomba wrote:

Its strange that that's considered a BAD status, isn't it?

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Like BB, I really did LOL. Brilliant. 🙂

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You think so? Childish bickering is one thing, but revelling in the

He's the one with all of the negative Karma points and it shows. Living in a trailer in Hicksville
USA is quite the punishment. He's such a sad and pathetic case, we should all take pity on him and
those of his ilk.

JD

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Like BB, I really did LOL. Brilliant. 🙂

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You think so?

Yes, sir, I really do.

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Childish bickering is one thing, but revelling in the

Yeah, like the flu in Colorado thread? No, I haven't found Dave to have even one shred of human
decency. The fact that he revels in childish argument is a symptom of that, I think. I really do
think, for the most part, that Dave is about as mean-spirited as one can be without already having
self-selected oneself out of the gene pool.
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You think so?

Yes, sir, I really do.

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Yeah, like the flu in Colorado thread?

Precisely. That was the same day as the post about G.T.'s karma (at least in my part of the world).
Hence my post.

No, I haven't found Dave to

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have even one shred of human decency. The fact that he revels in childish argument is a symptom of
that, I think.

Hmm, best not to mention your contributions to those threads then...

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Hahahahaha!

Hey.

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Like BB, I really did LOL. Brilliant. 🙂

Na, Don Rickles at best....

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Except for one fine detail: For Dave, *every* day is "act like a

BBBWWWHHHAAAAA! Gee, I guess I fit right in round here! Damn, and here I was trying to
distinguish myself...

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You think so? Childish bickering is one thing, but revelling in the

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IMO.

I'll forward your observation to Google News then...And again, here I am fitting the stereotypical
AM-B poster...

Dave (Just a brick in the WALL!)

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> Except for one fine detail: For Dave, *every* day is "act like a

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You think so?

Yes, sir, I really do.

Ah yes...typical. You actually think someone cares. How cute...

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Childish bickering is one thing, but revelling in the

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IMO.

Yeah, like the flu in Colorado thread?

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. All I did was post a link. Perhaps you didn't like my personal quip
at the end. Seems fairly thined skinned of you to me. But hey, that's life.

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Precisely. That was the same day as the post about G.T.'s karma (at least in my part of the
world). Hence my post.

There is this saying, (stop me if you've heard this) "Do unto others as you would have them do unto
you" that pretty much sums up all I have to say about that.

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No, I haven't found Dave to

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have even one shred of human decency. The fact that he revels in childish argument is a symptom
of that, I think.

Wow, you're good. To be able to garner that much info about my life from my pawltry usenet posts.
Why, that simply astonishing!

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Hmm, best not to mention your contributions to those threads then...

ahem...

Dave (best not to. Excellent!)

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No, I haven't found Dave to

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have even one shred of human decency. The fact that he revels in childish argument is a symptom
of that, I think.

Hmm, best not to mention your contributions to those threads then...

Well, one could take issue with that comparison for a number of reasons:

1.) Do you think I revel in childish arguments? While I'll engage in a flamefest every now and again
for amusement, I would classify my participation in a.m-b as mostly level-headed discussion.
Mostly. 😉

2.) I consider the reveling in childish argument a symptom of his problem, not merely the act of
engagement in said argument. I am looking at the motivation, not the mere action. Since we have
had a wide variety of folks engage Dave in his idiocy, one might imagine that engaging in
flamefests in and of themselves is not indicative of a mental defect. You, Rimmer, Pete F., JD,
Clyde, etc. have all taken their shots. Are you suggesting, even for a moment, that those folks
should be compared to Dave, just because they engaged him at his level?

suggesting that by engaging Dave at his level, that you are comparing your motivations with his?

3.) Finally, while reveling in childish argument might be a symptom of a lack of human decency, it
certainly isn't the only one. It might in fact be just a minor one, with his own dumbass
commentary as the primary indicator.

While I do agree that there is irony in my comments, and that I have sunk to his level on several
occasions, I do not agree at any point that those acts in any way indicate that I have the same sort
of mindset.

So, after all that, please enlighten me as to the implication of your comment. State it in plain
English, such that a dumb 'Merkin could figure it out. That way we'll both be clear on your opinion.
Of course, if you're just having a [censored]-take in my direction, and it was all meant as a joke, my
apologies for not seeing it. I am one of those 'Merkins, after all. 🙂

Thanks,
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Firstly, if you're going to killfile Jonesy, you shouldn't respond by proxy through my post.

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> Childish bickering is one thing, but revelling in the

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> IMO.

Yeah, like the flu in Colorado thread?

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. All I did was post a link. Perhaps you didn't like my personal
quip at the end. Seems fairly thined skinned of you to me. But hey, that's life.

You often post links discussing death and serious illness in other people's locales? See anyone
else do it? Perhaps I've missed it, but I can't recall anyone else here taking pleasure in
other's misery.

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Precisely. That was the same day as the post about G.T.'s karma (at least in my part of the
world). Hence my post.

There is this saying, (stop me if you've heard this) "Do unto others as you would have them do
unto you" that pretty much sums up all I have to say about that.

The "Do unto others" phrase is meant to be used in a positive context, not as an excuse to justify
morally inappropriate actions and comments. And seriously, is that how you would have "others do
unto you"?

The scary thing is that you seem to find nothing wrong with your actions. I sincerely hope you're
not passing this sort of [censored] on to your children.

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Firstly, if you're going to killfile Jonesy, you shouldn't respond by proxy through my post.

And perhaps a little snipping would go a long way on your part as well...

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>> Childish bickering is one thing, but revelling in the

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> Yeah, like the flu in Colorado thread?

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. All I did was post a link. Perhaps you didn't like my personal
quip at the end. Seems fairly thined skinned of you to me. But hey, that's life.

You often post links discussing death and serious illness in other people's locales?

How often have I done that. Besides it's just the news. It's not like I make this [censored] up. (Well
cept for my "embellishments" 🙂

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See anyone else do it? Perhaps I've missed it, but I can't recall anyone else here taking pleasure
in other's misery.

[censored], I've had the company I worked for quartarly stock report posted in some freakish effort to
goad me..(which made "me" miserable cuz I lost a little coin) .Folks are regularly dragged thru the
mud round these parts.

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Precisely. That was the same day as the post about G.T.'s karma (at least in my part of the
world). Hence my post.

There is this saying, (stop me if you've heard this) "Do unto others as you would have them do
unto you" that pretty much sums up all I have to say about that.

The "Do unto others" phrase is meant to be used in a positive context, not as an excuse to justify
morally inappropriate actions and comments. And seriously, is that how you would have "others do
unto you"?

Only after been set upon as I have by some of these nutjobs.

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The scary thing is that you seem to find nothing wrong with your actions.

Why should I? They are measured responses to the same type of [censored] that has been shovled my way over
the years.

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I sincerely hope you're not passing this sort of [censored] on to your children.

Well I appreciate the sentiment, but alas it is of no consequence to you, so your concern is
un-necessary. Thanks anyway.

Dave

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Hmm, best not to mention your contributions to those threads then...

Well, one could take issue with that comparison for a number of reasons:

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So, after all that, please enlighten me as to the implication of your comment. State it in plain
English, such that a dumb 'Merkin could figure it out. That way we'll both be clear on your
opinion. Of course, if you're just having a [censored]-take in my direction, and it was all meant as a
joke, my apologies for not seeing it.

I just found it ironic that you'd inferred his engagement in childish arguing was a symptom of his
lack of 'human decency', when you're frequently one of those who partake in the arguments with him.

I could have stuck a smiley on the end because it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I thought there was
a valid point in there.

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I am one of those 'Merkins, after all. 🙂

Nevermind, I've heard a cure will be available soon :p

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Firstly, if you're going to killfile Jonesy, you shouldn't respond by proxy through my post.

And perhaps a little snipping would go a long way on your part as well...

It was a direct reply to Jonesy. Snipping his (relevant) quotes might have seemed a touch
over-zealous.

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You often post links discussing death and serious illness in other people's locales?

How often have I done that. Besides it's just the news. It's not like I make this [censored] up. (Well
cept for my "embellishments" 🙂

Except it was totally irrelevant here unless you wanted to gloat.

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See anyone else do it? Perhaps I've missed it, but

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I can't recall anyone else here taking pleasure in other's misery.

[censored], I've had the company I worked for quartarly stock report posted in some freakish effort to
goad me..(which made "me" miserable cuz I lost a little coin)

Link?

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The "Do unto others" phrase is meant to be used in a positive context, not as an excuse to justify
morally inappropriate actions and comments. And seriously, is that how you would have "others do
unto you"?

Only after been set upon as I have by some of these nutjobs.

You've totally missed the point of the phrase. It has absolutely nothing to do with retaliation.

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The scary thing is that you seem to find nothing wrong with your actions.

Why should I? They are measured responses to the same type of [censored] that has been shovled my way
over the years.

But they're not - that's why I piped up. I've watched you lot and your handbags for the last couple
of years, but no-one's ever gone as low as you did a couple of days ago.

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Hmm, best not to mention your contributions to those threads then...

Well, one could take issue with that comparison for a number of reasons:

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Uhh, no. The reasoning is the important bit. Ignoring it is easy if you have a point to make, I
suppose...

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So, after all that, please enlighten me as to the implication of your comment. State it in plain
English, such that a dumb 'Merkin could figure it out. That way we'll both be clear on your
opinion. Of course, if you're just having a [censored]-take in my direction, and it was all meant as a
joke, my apologies for not seeing it.

I just found it ironic that you'd inferred his engagement in childish arguing was a symptom of
his lack of 'human decency', when you're frequently one of those who partake in the arguments
with him.

No, not merely "engagement." Re-read what I wrote, instead of just ignoring it.

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I could have stuck a smiley on the end because it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I thought there
was a valid point in there.

I will surmise that this is at best a "white lie," since you decided to ignore completely what I
wrote, and re-iterate your original opinion.

Since you are loathe to state your opinion openly, I am going to have to ASSume that you find me a
sociopath on par with Dave for merely engaging him in his idiotic arguments. Of course, your
engagement with him in this thread suggests...? Worse, if arguing *with* Dave is stupid and
childish, arguing *about* Dave must be...?

But no matter. As I do not give much weight to USENET denizens' opinions of me (negative *or*
positive, especially from those folks I have never met,) your implied criticism has no effect on my
self-worth, nor will it have an effect on my posting habits.

Good day, Mr. Harris.
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<I'll just snip the rest because this is the important bit>

Uhh, no. The reasoning is the important bit. Ignoring it is easy if you have a point to make, I
suppose...

Actually, ignoring it was easier because I wanted to go to bed...

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I could have stuck a smiley on the end because it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I thought there
was a valid point in there.

I will surmise that this is at best a "white lie," since you decided to ignore completely what I
wrote, and re-iterate your original opinion.

Fair call. I didn't ignore what you wrote though, I just chose to ignore it because I was tired and
didn't want to end up in a protracted discussion over something that was essentially a throw-away
comment. Ho hum, eh?

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Since you are loathe to state your opinion openly, I am going to have to ASSume that you find me a
sociopath on par with Dave for merely engaging him in his idiotic arguments. Of course, your
engagement with him in this thread suggests...?

It suggests that I took great offence to something he wrote. It happens rarely, but I'll pipe up
when I think someone has crossed the line.

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Worse, if arguing *with* Dave is stupid and childish, arguing *about* Dave must be...?

Foolish? Anyway, I can't see that this constitutes an argument - you haven't called me
anything yet 🙂

And to set your mind at rest here's a full reply:

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1.) Do you think I revel in childish arguments?

Yes.

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While I'll engage in a flamefest every now and again for amusement,

Assuming your first sentence is meant to be some sort of protestation to my comment, following it up
in the next sentence with an admission of such (albeit reworded) is a nice contradiction.

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I would classify my participation in a.m-b as mostly level-headed discussion. Mostly. 😉

I'm not going to disagree with that. I enjoy reading your most of your posts and your RRs.

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2.) I consider the reveling in childish argument a symptom of his problem, not merely the act of
engagement in said argument.

What is this 'problem' that you've diagnosed? What makes you qualified to establish that he has a
problem? And if you truly believe that he does have a problem, then what does that make you?
Somebody who choses to have fights with somebody who they know has a problem...

I am

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looking at the motivation, not the mere action. Since we have had a wide variety of folks engage
Dave in his idiocy, one might imagine that engaging in flamefests in and of themselves is not
indicative of a mental defect. You, Rimmer, Pete F., JD, Clyde, etc. have all taken their shots.
Are you suggesting, even for a moment, that those folks should be compared to Dave, just because
they engaged him at his level?

The thing is that all of the people that you've named there don't chose to argue with the same one
or two people on a regular basis.

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suggesting that by engaging Dave at his level, that you are comparing your motivations with his?

Haha, probably...

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4.) Finally, while reveling in childish argument might be a symptom of a lack of human decency,
it certainly isn't the only one. It might in fact be just a minor one, with his own dumbass
commentary as the primary indicator.

While I do agree that there is irony in my comments, and that I have sunk to his level on several
occasions, I do not agree at any point that those acts in any way indicate that I have the same
sort of mindset.

And how do we tell the difference? I mean, you know your own motivations for arguing with Dave, and
you think you know Dave's, but how are the rest of us supposed to gauge 'mindsets' in a name-
calling contest?

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But no matter. As I do not give much weight to USENET denizens' opinions of me (negative *or*
positive, especially from those folks I have never met,) your implied criticism has no effect on
my self-worth, nor will it have an effect on my posting habits.

I'm sure it won't. Pity...

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Good day, Mr. Harris.

Good evening, Mr. Jones.

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<I'll just snip the rest because this is the important bit>

Uhh, no. The reasoning is the important bit. Ignoring it is easy if you have a point to make, I
suppose...

Actually, ignoring it was easier because I wanted to go to bed...

Ahhhh! Never attribute to malice what can easily be attributed to sloth. 😉

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Since you are loathe to state your opinion openly, I am going to have to ASSume that you find me
a sociopath on par with Dave for merely engaging him in his idiotic arguments. Of course, your
engagement with him in this thread suggests...?

It suggests that I took great offence to something he wrote.

OK, then we are discussing a matter of degree. Usually, I am merely annoyed by what he says.

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It happens rarely, but I'll pipe up when I think someone has crossed the line.

And my threshold is lower than yours. Fair enough?

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Worse, if arguing *with* Dave is stupid and childish, arguing *about* Dave must be...?

Foolish? Anyway, I can't see that this constitutes an argument - you haven't called me
anything yet 🙂

Dammit, I knew I forgot something! I cannot seem to come up with anything fitting right off the top
of my head - [insert namecalling here.]

OK, *now* it's an argument! 🙂

Seriously now: I think this may be a bit of semantics at work. While posting in response to Dave is
a total waste of time, posting in a discussion about Dave can certainly be no better.

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1.) Do you think I revel in childish arguments?

Yes.

That is where you are mistaken. While I do find some small (and I do mean small) entertainment in
replying to Dave, Scotty-dog, and the Enviro-nut, it's merely low-brow entertainment. Nothing more,
and certainly there is no "revelling" on my part. More like "throw-away jabs."

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While I'll engage in a flamefest every now and again for amusement,

Assuming your first sentence is meant to be some sort of protestation to my comment, following it
up in the next sentence with an admission of such (albeit reworded) is a nice contradiction.

Hardly. Sometimes I watch the television for no other purpose than to empty my brain of conscious
thought. That doesn't mean for a moment that I am glued to the "entertainment" currently shooting
down the barrel of the electron gun.

I do not accept your black-and-white position on the issue.

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I would classify my participation in a.m-b as mostly level-headed discussion. Mostly. 😉

I'm not going to disagree with that. I enjoy reading your most of your posts and your RRs.

So, one might actually be able to differentiate between my interaction on a.m-b, and someone whose
interaction seems to be 99% churlish and devisive? Therefore, I might actually just be having a go
every now and again just for yuks?

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2.) I consider the reveling in childish argument a symptom of his problem, not merely the act
of engagement in said argument.

What is this 'problem' that you've diagnosed? What makes you qualified to establish that he has a
problem? And if you truly believe that he does have a problem, then what does that make you?
Somebody who choses to have fights with somebody who they know has a problem...

He's a sociopath. (Look it up.) But hey, if a psychologist can pass himself off as a real scientist,
surely a real scientist can pass himself off as a psychologist! 🙂

What it makes me is an amused observer. I do not accept responsibility for his actions, nor for his
reactions to my postings. All that is on his shoulders. If he needs professional help, that's also
his business.

I have no bad feelings whatsoever about poking fun at him. But I do think that trying to equate our
behavior is disingenuous on your part.

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You, Rimmer, Pete F., JD, Clyde, etc. have all taken their shots. Are you suggesting, even for
a moment, that those folks should be compared to Dave, just because they engaged him at his
level?

The thing is that all of the people that you've named there don't chose to argue with the same one
or two people on a regular basis.

LOL. Nonsense.

Define "regular basis."

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suggesting that by engaging Dave at his level, that you are comparing your motivations
with his?

Haha, probably...

Again, nonsense. He has some sort of problem. I doubt that you do.

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4.) Finally, while reveling in childish argument might be a symptom of a lack of human decency,
it certainly isn't the only one. It might in fact be just a minor one, with his own dumbass
commentary as the primary indicator.

While I do agree that there is irony in my comments, and that I have sunk to his level on
several occasions, I do not agree at any point that those acts in any way indicate that I have
the same sort of mindset.

And how do we tell the difference?

Posting content.

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I mean, you know your own motivations for arguing with Dave, and you think you know Dave's, but
how are the rest of us supposed to gauge 'mindsets' in a name-calling contest?

By posting content, taken in total. You have mentioned that you thought positively of some of my
postings in a.m-b. Can the same be said to Dave's? To anything close to the same degree? The
appearance of irony is merely that - appearance. And BTW, I do appreciate kind words about my
postings. If someone takes something positive away from what I write, great. If folks don't like
what I write, then my suggestion is to not read it. I try to be more positive than negative, but I'm
a package deal. 😉

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your implied criticism has no effect on my self-worth, nor will it have an effect on my posting
habits.

I'm sure it won't. Pity...

Why so?
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>Hmm, best not to mention your contributions to those threads then...

Well, one could take issue with that comparison for a number of reasons:

<I'll just snip the rest because this is the important bit>

Uhh, no. The reasoning is the important bit. Ignoring it is easy if you have a point to make, I
suppose...

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So, after all that, please enlighten me as to the implication of your comment. State it in
plain English, such that a dumb 'Merkin could figure it out. That way we'll both be clear on
your opinion. Of course, if you're just having a [censored]-take in my direction, and it was all
meant as a joke, my apologies for not seeing it.

I just found it ironic that you'd inferred his engagement in childish arguing was a symptom of
his lack of 'human decency', when you're frequently one of those who partake in the arguments
with him.

No, not merely "engagement." Re-read what I wrote, instead of just ignoring it.

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I could have stuck a smiley on the end because it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I thought there
was a valid point in there.

I will surmise that this is at best a "white lie," since you decided to ignore completely what I
wrote, and re-iterate your original opinion.

Since you are loathe to state your opinion openly, I am going to have to ASSume that you find me a
sociopath on par with Dave for merely engaging him in his idiotic arguments. Of course, your
engagement with him in this thread suggests...? Worse, if arguing *with* Dave is stupid and
childish, arguing *about* Dave must be...?

But no matter. As I do not give much weight to USENET denizens' opinions of me (negative *or*
positive, especially from those folks I have never met,) your implied criticism has no effect on
my self-worth, nor will it have an effect on my posting habits.

Good day, Mr. Harris.
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Well, if that's what's on the menu, it certainly *will* be merry. Unless it's you that's doing the
offering. I'll pass on that.

😉
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Well, if that's what's on the menu, it certainly *will* be merry.

It's always on the menu at aRe Manor ',;~}~

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Unless it's you that's doing the offering.

Of course! But not to you - I'm all married now, heheheheh!

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I'll pass on that.

Good for you!

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Jonesy

Shaun aRe