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  1. -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: The Mind Continues to Boggle
    Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:47:02 -0400
    From: Josh Hill <[email hidden]>
    Reply-To: [email hidden]
    Newsgroups: misc.writing

    'Others who went out of their way to offer help were turned down, such
    as Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, who told reporters his city had
    offered emergency, medical and technical help as early as last Sunday
    to FEMA but was turned down. Only a single tank truck was requested,
    Daley said. Red tape kept the American Ambulance Association from
    sending 300 emergency vehicles from Florida to the flood zone,
    according to former senator John Breaux (D-La.) They were told to get
    permission from the General Services Administration. "GSA said they
    had to have FEMA ask for it," Breaux told CNN. "As a result they
    weren't sent".

    [ . . . ]

    ' "It's such an irony I hate to say it, but we have less capability
    today than we did on September 11," said a veteran FEMA official
    involved in the hurricane response. "We are so much less than what we
    were in 2000," added another senior FEMA official. "We've lost a lot
    of what we were able to do then".'

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301653_pf.html

    --
    Josh

    "This is a devastating storm. This is a storm that's
    going to require immediate action now." -George W. Bush,
    four days after Hurricane Katrina

  2. There are quite a few Cleveland Fire Fighters there waiting ... and waiting
    .... and waiting .... while ppl die.
    They went to help but they are being forced to take days and days worth of
    classes.
    I guess that just means for more dead floating bodies.
    It just sickens me. It's not like the fire fighters are the average person
    just trying to help out, these are seasoned and very well trained
    professionals.

    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: The Mind Continues to Boggle
    Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:47:02 -0400
    From: Josh Hill <[email hidden]>
    Reply-To: [email hidden]
    Newsgroups: misc.writing

    'Others who went out of their way to offer help were turned down, such
    as Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, who told reporters his city had
    offered emergency, medical and technical help as early as last Sunday
    to FEMA but was turned down. Only a single tank truck was requested,
    Daley said. Red tape kept the American Ambulance Association from
    sending 300 emergency vehicles from Florida to the flood zone,
    according to former senator John Breaux (D-La.) They were told to get
    permission from the General Services Administration. "GSA said they
    had to have FEMA ask for it," Breaux told CNN. "As a result they
    weren't sent".

    [ . . . ]

    ' "It's such an irony I hate to say it, but we have less capability
    today than we did on September 11," said a veteran FEMA official
    involved in the hurricane response. "We are so much less than what we
    were in 2000," added another senior FEMA official. "We've lost a lot
    of what we were able to do then".'

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301653_pf.html

    --
    Josh

    "This is a devastating storm. This is a storm that's
    going to require immediate action now." -George W. Bush,
    four days after Hurricane Katrina

  3. "Kat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    There are quite a few Cleveland Fire Fighters there waiting ... and
    waiting ... and waiting .... while ppl die.
    They went to help but they are being forced to take days and days worth of
    classes.
    I guess that just means for more dead floating bodies.
    It just sickens me. It's not like the fire fighters are the average
    person just trying to help out, these are seasoned and very well trained
    professionals.

    I saw that, they are handing out flyers. Uh, you don't need trained
    fire and emergency personnel for that!

    nancy

  4. Nancy Young said:

    "Kat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    There are quite a few Cleveland Fire Fighters there waiting ... and
    waiting ... and waiting .... while ppl die.
    They went to help but they are being forced to take days and days worth of
    classes.
    I guess that just means for more dead floating bodies.
    It just sickens me. It's not like the fire fighters are the average
    person just trying to help out, these are seasoned and very well trained
    professionals.

    I saw that, they are handing out flyers. Uh, you don't need trained
    fire and emergency personnel for that!

    It's very odd to me that NOLA hasn't *jumped* on the chance to get
    Cleveland and Chicago assistance...for heaven's sakes, Indianapolis has
    had people down there since a week ago today (Task Force One and FD) -
    and face it, Indy folks just don't have the experience that
    Cleveland/Chicago Task Forces and Fire Departments have. (I'm not
    dissing my own fire department, I'm just saying that they don't see
    quite the same amount of action - or the same kind - as Cleveland and
    Chicago.)

    And the Indy Task Force/FD people aren't just handing around flyers,
    our news was showing them searching for dead bodies. I mean, I assume
    they were from Indy - the FD was wearing an Indy shoulder patch...

    I have to wonder...with all this fear of "trampling" on "states rights"
    (which seems to be the excuse du jour), will the CDC have to wait to be
    invited in to help with the iminent cholera epidemic? Or can they just
    barrel in and do what has to be done?

    Lisa Ann

    obFood: Apparently, I provided dinner for about 15 mosquitoes. They
    found me very tasty, and I'm afraid they've told all their friends.

  5. Lisa Ann said:

    obFood: Apparently, I provided dinner for about 15 mosquitoes. They
    found me very tasty, and I'm afraid they've told all their friends.

    Tea... monitor... you know...

    Pastorio

  6. Bob (this one) said:
    Lisa Ann said:

    obFood: Apparently, I provided dinner for about 15 mosquitoes. They
    found me very tasty, and I'm afraid they've told all their friends.

    Tea... monitor... you know...

    Pastorio

    Did it come out your nose? It doesn't count if it didn't. <g>

    Lisa Ann

  7. Lisa Ann said:
    Bob (this one) said:
    Lisa Ann said:

    obFood: Apparently, I provided dinner for about 15 mosquitoes. They
    found me very tasty, and I'm afraid they've told all their friends.

    Tea... monitor... you know...

    Did it come out your nose? It doesn't count if it didn't. <g>

    Maybe a few drops, but I did have a prolonged coughing spell. Does that
    count? Maybe 1/2 the value of nose leaks?

    Pastorio

  8. Lisa Ann said:

    Nancy Young wrote:
    I have to wonder...with all this fear of "trampling" on "states
    rights" (which seems to be the excuse du jour), will the CDC have to
    wait to be invited in to help with the iminent cholera epidemic? Or
    can they just barrel in and do what has to be done?


    Good lord! Are we back to the 'War of Northern Aggression' (aka Civil War?)
    What the hell was civil about it I don't know. States Rights? I hope
    whatever the outcome is, I don't have to wear a damn hat. I hate hats. <G>

    Anyone familiar with Stephen King's 'The Stand'?

    Jill <--off to watch a scary old movie, Poltergeist. They're HEERRE! The
    TV people. Damn, the television people with this tragedy are scarier than
    with a poltergeist.

  9. Nancy Young said:

    "Kat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    There are quite a few Cleveland Fire Fighters there waiting ... and
    waiting ... and waiting .... while ppl die.
    They went to help but they are being forced to take days and days worth of
    classes.
    I guess that just means for more dead floating bodies.
    It just sickens me. It's not like the fire fighters are the average
    person just trying to help out, these are seasoned and very well trained
    professionals.

    I saw that, they are handing out flyers. Uh, you don't need trained
    fire and emergency personnel for that!

    nancy

    No, of course not. They're needed to accompany the president for
    photo-ops.

    -bwg

  10. Lisa Ann said:

    I have to wonder...with all this fear of "trampling" on "states rights"
    (which seems to be the excuse du jour), will the CDC have to wait to be
    invited in to help with the iminent cholera epidemic? Or can they just
    barrel in and do what has to be done?

    That is a smoke screen thrown up by the rovians to try and shift the
    blame away from the president and his cronies.

    Quoted message said:


    Lisa Ann

    obFood: Apparently, I provided dinner for about 15 mosquitoes. They
    found me very tasty, and I'm afraid they've told all their friends.

    -bwg

  11. Bob (this one) said:
    Lisa Ann said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    Lisa Ann wrote:

    > obFood: Apparently, I provided dinner for about 15 mosquitoes. They
    > found me very tasty, and I'm afraid they've told all their friends.

    Tea... monitor... you know...

    Did it come out your nose? It doesn't count if it didn't. <g>

    Maybe a few drops, but I did have a prolonged coughing spell. Does that
    count? Maybe 1/2 the value of nose leaks?

    Pastorio

    You know, if your mind stays boggled *too* long it can stick that way...

    Worriedly, ;-)
    Bob

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