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    Subject: Red Delicious most nutritious
    Date: 25 May 2005 09:26:00 -0700
    From: Roman Bystrianyk <[email hidden]>
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    Joe Friesen, "Red Delicious most nutritious", Globe and Mail, May 24,
    2005,
    Link:
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050524/APPLES24/TPHealth/

    An apple a day may keep the doctor away, but new research shows that
    when it comes to healthy eating, not all apples are created equal.

    A study by scientists at Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada to be
    published this week indicates that of the eight main varieties of apple
    grown in Ontario, the Red Delicious is the most nutritious.

    Red Delicious apples contain more than five times as many antioxidants
    as Empire apples, the variety with the lowest antioxidant level, said
    the study's lead researcher, Rong Tsao.

    "Redder apples are generally richer in antioxidants than pale coloured
    apples," Dr. Tsao said, explaining that antioxidants are the "good
    chemicals in fruits and vegetables that help us fight cancers and
    cardiovascular diseases.

    "These are the compounds that are known to fight with the so-called
    free radicals in our body."

    "The free radicals are the culprits of modern human chronic diseases."

    The study is notable because it pinpoints for the first time the
    individual molecules that contribute most to antioxidant activities in
    apples. Those molecules were found to be much more prevalent in the
    skin of the apple than in the flesh of the fruit, leading Dr. Tsao to
    recommend Canadians put down their peelers and eat the whole apple.

    Identifying those molecules will also help scientists such as Dr. Tsao
    as they try to produce new breeds of apples that could potentially
    contain more concentrated nutritional benefits.

    "So instead of eating two [apples], or even one, you can cut the
    [portion] size in half," Dr. Tsao said.

    There were significant differences in the antioxidant levels of the
    apple varieties used in the study.

    The flesh of the Northern Spy was found to be richest in antioxidants,
    while the Empire and the Mutsu had the lowest levels in both their
    flesh and skin. All the apples used in the study were grown at the same
    orchard near Woodstock, Ont., and under the same agronomic conditions
    to guarantee the consistency of the results.

    Dr. Tsao, who works out of the federal Department of Agriculture and
    Agri-Food's lab in Guelph, Ont., said the results don't necessarily
    mean consumers will change their apple-eating habits, or that farmers
    should start producing only certain varieties.

    "Food is a very interesting thing. People don't always choose food by
    what is most nutritious," he said.

    Apples, which he believes are the second most commonly consumed fruit
    after bananas, are not as rich in antioxidants as blueberries or
    blackberries. They are, however, more affordable, more widely available
    and more robust when it comes to storage, which means that an apple a
    day may the most effective means of ensuring a healthy dose of
    antioxidants.

    Dr. Tsao now plans to use his findings to work with companies in the
    apple juicing industry to create new products from apple waste. The
    juicing industry typically discards the peels, he said, which are rich
    in antioxidants. That material could be reworked and sold as a new kind
    of nutritional product for human or animal consumption.

    The study will be published on-line this week in the Journal of
    Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Other popular apple varieties, such as
    the Granny Smith or the Gala, were left out of the study because they
    are not grown locally.

    A new study on apples shows that of the eight main varieties grown in
    Ontario, Red Delicious has the most antioxidant activity. Antioxidants
    in apples have been associated with lowered risks for certain kinds of
    cancer.

    THE APPLE SKIN TOP 8*

    Red Delicious; 17,851

    Ida Red; 12,083

    Cortland; 11,908

    Northern Spy; 10,044

    Golden Delicious; 9,616

    Mutsu; 6,820

    McIntosh; 6.436

    Empire; 2,736

    THE APPLE FLESH TOP 8*

    Northern Spy; 6,425

    Cortland; 3,660

    Red Delicious; 3,215

    MacIntosh; 2,785

    Ida Red; 2,749

    Golden Delicious; 2,036

    Mutsu; 1,584

    Empire; 550

    *Measured in FRAP units of antioxidant activity - FRAP is a commonly
    used measure of antioxidant activity

    SOURCE: DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND AGRI FOOD

  2. "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Dr. Tsao, who works out of the federal Department of Agriculture and
    Agri-Food's lab in Guelph, Ont., said the results don't necessarily
    mean consumers will change their apple-eating habits, or that farmers
    should start producing only certain varieties.

    "Food is a very interesting thing. People don't always choose food by
    what is most nutritious," he said.

    I'd rather chew cardboard than a red or golden delicious apple, nutritious
    or not. But Cortlands are right up there so I'll keep eating those.

    Gabby

  3. "Gabby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I'd rather chew cardboard than a red or golden delicious apple,
    nutritious or not. But Cortlands are right up there so I'll keep
    eating those.

    I agree about red delicious apples. Whoever named them must not have
    tasted them first! But I've had some very good golden delicious apples
    in season -- some grown in Washington, and some grown locally. I was
    surprised at how good they were.

    Chris

  4. "Gabby" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Dr. Tsao, who works out of the federal Department of Agriculture and
    Agri-Food's lab in Guelph, Ont., said the results don't necessarily
    mean consumers will change their apple-eating habits, or that farmers
    should start producing only certain varieties.

    "Food is a very interesting thing. People don't always choose food by
    what is most nutritious," he said.

    I'd rather chew cardboard than a red or golden delicious apple,
    nutritious or not. But Cortlands are right up there so I'll keep
    eating those.

    Gabby

    Gabby,

    Never tried those. I'm stuck on Fiji apples.

    Andy

  5. On Wed, 25 May 2005 16:58:04 -0300, "Gabby" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Dr. Tsao, who works out of the federal Department of Agriculture and
    Agri-Food's lab in Guelph, Ont., said the results don't necessarily
    mean consumers will change their apple-eating habits, or that farmers
    should start producing only certain varieties.

    "Food is a very interesting thing. People don't always choose food by
    what is most nutritious," he said.

    I'd rather chew cardboard than a red or golden delicious apple, nutritious
    or not. But Cortlands are right up there so I'll keep eating those.

    Gabby

    Absolutely! I think the Red Delicious, anyway, were developed to
    withstand long-distance transport and to look beautiful in displays.
    They should have been called "Red Beautiful."

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  6. Chris said:

    "Gabby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I'd rather chew cardboard than a red or golden delicious apple,
    nutritious or not. But Cortlands are right up there so I'll keep
    eating those.

    I agree about red delicious apples. Whoever named them must not have
    tasted them first! But I've had some very good golden delicious
    apples in season -- some grown in Washington, and some grown locally.
    I was surprised at how good they were.

    Chris

    My small parrot won't touch a red delicious. She likes Golden Delicious and
    Gala apples, that's about it. I like apple juice but don't care for the
    texture of *any* apple.

    Jill

  7. "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Gabby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I'd rather chew cardboard than a red or golden delicious apple,
    nutritious or not. But Cortlands are right up there so I'll keep eating
    those.

    I agree about red delicious apples. Whoever named them must not have
    tasted them first! But I've had some very good golden delicious apples in
    season -- some grown in Washington, and some grown locally. I was
    surprised at how good they were.

    Don't think I've come across a good golden delicious but I'll take your word
    for it. DH usually buys Granny Smiths and I like those just fine. Mac are
    a bit too sweet for my taste. Cortlands are fine, but my favorites 'grocery
    store' variety is Gravenstein.

    But back in the days of the dinosaurs when I was growing up there was a
    variety of apples we knew as "August apples". These were green apples, kind
    of mealy and very [censored] -- I've no idea what they were. We ate them
    sprinkled with salt. It seemed that all the old houses in our village had
    at least one tree of those; unfortunately, there is nary a one left. I
    think the last time I ate an August apple was in P.E.I. about 17 years ago,
    when we happened upon a tree in someone's front yard while out driving
    around. We rang the doorbell and asked if we could buy a few. Needless to
    say, we went home with a bag full and the guy's good wishes.

  8. Chris said:

    "Gabby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'd rather chew cardboard than a red or golden delicious apple,
    nutritious or not. But Cortlands are right up there so I'll keep
    eating those.

    I agree about red delicious apples. Whoever named them must not have
    tasted them first! But I've had some very good golden delicious apples
    in season -- some grown in Washington, and some grown locally. I was
    surprised at how good they were.

    Chris


    They used to taste good. Then they kept on "tweaking" them to look like
    a perfect apple but lost the flavor along the way. The Fuji apple is the
    "repaired" version of the red delicious. It is a cross breed developed
    by the Japanese to bring the flavor back.

  9. THey taste like [censored].

  10. Chris said:


    I agree about red delicious apples. Whoever named them must not have
    tasted them first! But I've had some very good golden delicious apples
    in season -- some grown in Washington, and some grown locally. I was
    surprised at how good they were.

    I am with you there. I always thought that "Delicious" was a misnomer,
    since they were the least tasty of all apples. Let me rephrase that.
    They weren't just the least tasty. They were the worst tasting.

  11. "Andy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Never tried those. I'm stuck on Fiji apples.

    My favorites are Nittany...or Stayman...

  12. "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:


    Dr. Tsao, who works out of the federal Department of
    Agriculture and Agri-Food's lab in Guelph, Ont., said the
    results don't necessarily mean consumers will change their
    apple-eating habits, or that farmers should start producing
    only certain varieties.

    "Food is a very interesting thing. People don't always
    choose food by what is most nutritious," he said.

    that's because Red Delicious apples are *nasty*! i think they
    tacked "delicious" on the name to try & fool people.

    Quoted message said:


    Dr. Tsao now plans to use his findings to work with
    companies in the apple juicing industry to create new
    products from apple waste. The juicing industry typically
    discards the peels, he said, which are rich in
    antioxidants. That material could be reworked and sold as a
    new kind of nutritional product for human or animal
    consumption.

    duh! apple squeezings are already used in livestock feed. i
    get huge bags of pressed (organic) apples for my steers. they
    *love* it. and it's free because the orchard doesn't want it
    (guess they don't understand composting)
    lee

  13. Quoted message said:

    THey taste like [censored].

    If you say so, everyone who I ever introduced to fuji apples said "wow,
    this is a good apple..."

  14. "George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    THey taste like [censored].

    If you say so, everyone who I ever introduced to fuji apples said "wow,
    this is a good apple..."


    =====

    I love Fuji apples and don't care for Gala, Rome, or Red Delicious.

    Cyndi

  15. "enigma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:


    Dr. Tsao, who works out of the federal Department of
    Agriculture and Agri-Food's lab in Guelph, Ont., said the
    results don't necessarily mean consumers will change their
    apple-eating habits, or that farmers should start producing
    only certain varieties.

    "Food is a very interesting thing. People don't always
    choose food by what is most nutritious," he said.

    that's because Red Delicious apples are *nasty*! i think they
    tacked "delicious" on the name to try & fool people.

    Quoted message said:


    Dr. Tsao now plans to use his findings to work with
    companies in the apple juicing industry to create new
    products from apple waste. The juicing industry typically
    discards the peels, he said, which are rich in
    antioxidants. That material could be reworked and sold as a
    new kind of nutritional product for human or animal
    consumption.

    duh! apple squeezings are already used in livestock feed. i
    get huge bags of pressed (organic) apples for my steers. they
    *love* it. and it's free because the orchard doesn't want it
    (guess they don't understand composting)
    lee


    ======

    Actually, I can remember a time (30 or 35 years ago) when Red Delicious
    actually *were* good...

    Cyndi

  16. On Thu 26 May 2005 04:36:18p, Rick & Cyndi wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    THey taste like [censored].

    If you say so, everyone who I ever introduced to fuji apples said "wow,
    this is a good apple..." =====

    I love Fuji apples and don't care for Gala, Rome, or Red Delicious.

    Cyndi

    I like Rome Beauties for baked apples.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  17. In article <55tle.4688$3u3.4041@trnddc07>,

    Rick & Cyndi said:

    Actually, I can remember a time (30 or 35 years ago) when Red Delicious
    actually *were* good...

    Cyndi

    We go pick apples occasionally and the farm has red delicious apples as
    one variety available for picking. They really are good and bear
    absolutely no resemblance to what you get in the store.

    marcella

  18. Gabby said:

    But back in the days of the dinosaurs when I was growing up there was a
    variety of apples we knew as "August apples". These were green apples, kind
    of mealy and very [censored] -- I've no idea what they were. We ate them
    sprinkled with salt. It seemed that all the old houses in our village had
    at least one tree of those; unfortunately, there is nary a one left. I
    think the last time I ate an August apple was in P.E.I. about 17 years ago,
    when we happened upon a tree in someone's front yard while out driving
    around. We rang the doorbell and asked if we could buy a few. Needless to
    say, we went home with a bag full and the guy's good wishes.

    One of the varieties of Russet perhaps? Possibly the Fall Russet, also
    know as the Autumn Russet.
    They seem to have all but been lost and they were one of my favourites
    too, way back when.

    Ross

  19. In rec.food.cooking, on Thu, 26 May 2005 23:37:37 GMT, "Rick & Cyndi"
    <[email hidden]> wrote about Re: [Fwd: Red Delicious most
    nutritious]:

    Quoted message said:

    Actually, I can remember a time (30 or 35 years ago) when Red Delicious
    actually *were* good...

    Maybe it depends on where the apples are grown. My father, who liked
    to experiment, had both a Red Delicious tree and a Gold Delicious
    tree. This was a lot more than 35 years ago. The Golds were okay, but
    the Reds were tasteless. Actually, we preferred Gravensteins to both
    of the others.

    Joan

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