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"mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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A blast from the past. I was looking through the archives.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: First time shaving
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:24:33 -0500
From: Micheal Artindale <[email hidden]>
Organization: Bell Sympatico
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming

I have been competing for over 5 yrs. I am pretty good. I have heard the
good, the bad, and the ugly arguements about shaving for a race, or
shaving period.

My question is simple. I have never shaved anything besides my face, which
I use an electric razor. i have tried to use a regular razor and ending up
cutting myself. I want to try one race with a shaven body, to see if I
swim faster. How do I go about doing it so i dont cut myself, and I dont
leave stubble? should i shave under my swimsuit? and how??

I dont want all the arguements for or against it, I just want to know how,
so i can seee for myself. i may do it constantly, or for just meets, or
may never do it again.

Micheal.

This is the Micheal [sic] who swims at 1kph etc......??

Duncan Heenan said:

"mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

A blast from the past. I was looking through the archives.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: First time shaving
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:24:33 -0500
From: Micheal Artindale <[email hidden]>
Organization: Bell Sympatico
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming

I have been competing for over 5 yrs. I am pretty good. I have heard the
good, the bad, and the ugly arguements about shaving for a race, or
shaving period.

My question is simple. I have never shaved anything besides my face,
which I use an electric razor. i have tried to use a regular razor and
ending up cutting myself. I want to try one race with a shaven body,
to see if I swim faster. How do I go about doing it so i dont cut
myself, and I dont leave stubble? should i shave under my swimsuit?
and how??

I dont want all the arguements for or against it, I just want to know
how, so i can seee for myself. i may do it constantly, or for just
meets, or may never do it again.

Micheal.

This is the Micheal [sic] who swims at 1kph etc......??

The same.

You mention that some people on here are trolls. I hope you dont look in the
mirror. You might just see the worst one on here.

Instead of being rude, insultive.... why dont you be usefull with your
"infinite" wisdom?

I guess you never learned that when swimming, if you actually do swim.

Micheal

"mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

A blast from the past. I was looking through the archives.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: First time shaving
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:24:33 -0500
From: Micheal Artindale <[email hidden]>
Organization: Bell Sympatico
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming

I have been competing for over 5 yrs. I am pretty good. I have heard the
good, the bad, and the ugly arguements about shaving for a race, or
shaving period.

My question is simple. I have never shaved anything besides my face, which
I use an electric razor. i have tried to use a regular razor and ending up
cutting myself. I want to try one race with a shaven body, to see if I
swim faster. How do I go about doing it so i dont cut myself, and I dont
leave stubble? should i shave under my swimsuit? and how??

I dont want all the arguements for or against it, I just want to know how,
so i can seee for myself. i may do it constantly, or for just meets, or
may never do it again.

Micheal.

Quoted message said:

This is the Micheal [sic] who swims at 1kph etc......??

1kph? do you mean 1 km/hr? You have got to be from the USA. I actually do a
little over 2 km/hr. I can do 1 km in less than 30 mins. I think you should
go back to school for remidial math. I will be in the other classroom
learning how to spell.

Micheal

Micheal Artindale said:

You mention that some people on here are trolls. I hope you dont look in the
mirror. You might just see the worst one on here.

When you discover someone is a troll, the best thing to do (for us all) is
to ignore him. You can use filters in your newsreader, but some will
attempt to evade them (Smith has had something like 12 different From:
headers on this newsgroup). Much better to just ignore them.

Micheal Artindale said:

You mention that some people on here are trolls. I hope you dont look in the
mirror. You might just see the worst one on here.

Instead of being rude, insultive.... why dont you be usefull with your
"infinite" wisdom?

It says you were a competitive swimmer for over five years. It says you
were pretty good. That was January of 2004. After you posted that, you
disappeared for awhile, but then you reappeared, and since reappearing,
you have been pretending to know nothing about swimming. You have asked
every stupid question in the book. More than once in some cases, but I
didn't post those messages.

So, yeah, some people here are trolls. Apparently.

Quoted message said:

I guess you never learned that when swimming, if you actually do swim.

Micheal

"mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

A blast from the past. I was looking through the archives.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: First time shaving
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:24:33 -0500
From: Micheal Artindale <[email hidden]>
Organization: Bell Sympatico
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming

I have been competing for over 5 yrs. I am pretty good. I have heard the
good, the bad, and the ugly arguements about shaving for a race, or
shaving period.

My question is simple. I have never shaved anything besides my face, which
I use an electric razor. i have tried to use a regular razor and ending up
cutting myself. I want to try one race with a shaven body, to see if I
swim faster. How do I go about doing it so i dont cut myself, and I dont
leave stubble? should i shave under my swimsuit? and how??

I dont want all the arguements for or against it, I just want to know how,
so i can seee for myself. i may do it constantly, or for just meets, or
may never do it again.

Micheal.

"mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Micheal Artindale said:

You mention that some people on here are trolls. I hope you dont look in
the mirror. You might just see the worst one on here.

Instead of being rude, insultive.... why dont you be usefull with your
"infinite" wisdom?

It says you were a competitive swimmer for over five years.

So?

Quoted message said:

It says you were pretty good.

In my view, I was.

Quoted message said:

That was January of 2004. After you posted that, you disappeared for
awhile,

I "disapeared" in around Apr 06 to go to basic training. I "reapeared" in
Dec 06 on a different ISP. In May 07 I moved and changed ISP.

Quoted message said:

but then you reappeared, and since reappearing, you have been pretending
to know nothing about swimming.

I ask things to make sure I know it. If I asked what is the proper kick for
front crawl, how is that bad? I do not know about you, but when I practice I
like to practice the proper way.

Quoted message said:

You have asked every stupid question in the book. More than once in some
cases, but I didn't post those messages.

But, a lot of times, you do reply, and are rude about it.

Quoted message said:

So, yeah, some people here are trolls. Apparently.

Definition of a troll from google.com : a newsgroup post that is
deliberately incorrect, intended to provoke readers; or a person who makes
such a post

I have never made incorrect statements. I do not try to provoke people. I
ask things that I do not know and have always wondered.

Is shaving your body not something a swimmer might do? If someone has never
done it, but wants to know how, is it bad for them to ask?

Micheal

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I guess you never learned that when swimming, if you actually do swim.

Micheal

"mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

A blast from the past. I was looking through the archives.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: First time shaving
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:24:33 -0500
From: Micheal Artindale <[email hidden]>
Organization: Bell Sympatico
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming

I have been competing for over 5 yrs. I am pretty good. I have heard the
good, the bad, and the ugly arguements about shaving for a race, or
shaving period.

My question is simple. I have never shaved anything besides my face,
which I use an electric razor. i have tried to use a regular razor and
ending up cutting myself. I want to try one race with a shaven body, to
see if I swim faster. How do I go about doing it so i dont cut myself,
and I dont leave stubble? should i shave under my swimsuit? and how??

I dont want all the arguements for or against it, I just want to know
how, so i can seee for myself. i may do it constantly, or for just
meets, or may never do it again.

Micheal.

Micheal Artindale said:

"mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Micheal Artindale said:

You mention that some people on here are trolls. I hope you dont look in
the mirror. You might just see the worst one on here.

Instead of being rude, insultive.... why dont you be usefull with your
"infinite" wisdom?

It says you were a competitive swimmer for over five years.

So?

Quoted message said:

It says you were pretty good.

In my view, I was.

Quoted message said:

That was January of 2004. After you posted that, you disappeared for
awhile,

I "disapeared" in around Apr 06 to go to basic training. I "reapeared" in
Dec 06 on a different ISP. In May 07 I moved and changed ISP.

Quoted message said:

but then you reappeared, and since reappearing, you have been pretending
to know nothing about swimming.

I ask things to make sure I know it. If I asked what is the proper kick for
front crawl, how is that bad? I do not know about you, but when I practice I
like to practice the proper way.

Quoted message said:

You have asked every stupid question in the book. More than once in some
cases, but I didn't post those messages.

But, a lot of times, you do reply, and are rude about it.

Quoted message said:

So, yeah, some people here are trolls. Apparently.

Definition of a troll from google.com : a newsgroup post that is
deliberately incorrect, intended to provoke readers; or a person who makes
such a post

I have never made incorrect statements. I do not try to provoke people. I
ask things that I do not know and have always wondered.

Is shaving your body not something a swimmer might do? If someone has never
done it, but wants to know how, is it bad for them to ask?

I said why I forwarded your post. In it, you claim you were a
competitive swimmer for more than five years and you were pretty good.
Then you are gone for awhile, and when you return later in 2004, you
pretend to know nothing about swimming.

If you're uncomfortable about shaving, don't shave.

Quoted message said:

Micheal

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I guess you never learned that when swimming, if you actually do swim.

Micheal

"mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> A blast from the past. I was looking through the archives.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: First time shaving
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:24:33 -0500
> From: Micheal Artindale <[email hidden]>
> Organization: Bell Sympatico
> Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming
>
> I have been competing for over 5 yrs. I am pretty good. I have heard the
> good, the bad, and the ugly arguements about shaving for a race, or
> shaving period.
>
> My question is simple. I have never shaved anything besides my face,
> which I use an electric razor. i have tried to use a regular razor and
> ending up cutting myself. I want to try one race with a shaven body, to
> see if I swim faster. How do I go about doing it so i dont cut myself,
> and I dont leave stubble? should i shave under my swimsuit? and how??
>
> I dont want all the arguements for or against it, I just want to know
> how, so i can seee for myself. i may do it constantly, or for just
> meets, or may never do it again.
>
> Micheal.
>

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Micheal Artindale said:

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Quoted message said:

Micheal Artindale wrote:
> You mention that some people on here are trolls. I hope you dont look
> in the mirror. You might just see the worst one on here.
>
> Instead of being rude, insultive.... why dont you be usefull with your
> "infinite" wisdom?
It says you were a competitive swimmer for over five years.

So?

Quoted message said:

It says you were pretty good.

In my view, I was.

Quoted message said:

That was January of 2004. After you posted that, you disappeared for
awhile,

I "disapeared" in around Apr 06 to go to basic training. I "reapeared" in
Dec 06 on a different ISP. In May 07 I moved and changed ISP.

Quoted message said:

but then you reappeared, and since reappearing, you have been pretending
to know nothing about swimming.

I ask things to make sure I know it. If I asked what is the proper kick
for front crawl, how is that bad? I do not know about you, but when I
practice I like to practice the proper way.

Quoted message said:

You have asked every stupid question in the book. More than once in some
cases, but I didn't post those messages.

But, a lot of times, you do reply, and are rude about it.

Quoted message said:

So, yeah, some people here are trolls. Apparently.

Definition of a troll from google.com : a newsgroup post that is
deliberately incorrect, intended to provoke readers; or a person who
makes such a post

I have never made incorrect statements. I do not try to provoke people. I
ask things that I do not know and have always wondered.

Is shaving your body not something a swimmer might do? If someone has
never done it, but wants to know how, is it bad for them to ask?

I said why I forwarded your post. In it, you claim you were a competitive
swimmer for more than five years and you were pretty good. Then you are
gone for awhile, and when you return later in 2004, you pretend to know
nothing about swimming.

If you're uncomfortable about shaving, don't shave.

When was the last time I mentioned shaving?

That question was a how d i do it without cutting myself, not a should i do
it or will people laugh at me.

I have given up on what people think of me. If they laugh, than that is
their problem.

Why did you pick this post?

What does it matter where I go?

Why is it that you keep changing names?

If I knew it would do any good, I would put you in a killfile, however, you
are good for a comical relief.

You are just an old fart who is well over the hill and is crashing to the
bottom.

Micheal

Micheal Artindale said:

"mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Micheal Artindale said:

"mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>> You mention that some people on here are trolls. I hope you dont look
>> in the mirror. You might just see the worst one on here.
>>
>> Instead of being rude, insultive.... why dont you be usefull with your
>> "infinite" wisdom?
> It says you were a competitive swimmer for over five years.
So?

> It says you were pretty good.
In my view, I was.

> That was January of 2004. After you posted that, you disappeared for
> awhile,
I "disapeared" in around Apr 06 to go to basic training. I "reapeared" in
Dec 06 on a different ISP. In May 07 I moved and changed ISP.

> but then you reappeared, and since reappearing, you have been pretending
> to know nothing about swimming.
I ask things to make sure I know it. If I asked what is the proper kick
for front crawl, how is that bad? I do not know about you, but when I
practice I like to practice the proper way.

> You have asked every stupid question in the book. More than once in some
> cases, but I didn't post those messages.
But, a lot of times, you do reply, and are rude about it.

> So, yeah, some people here are trolls. Apparently.
Definition of a troll from google.com : a newsgroup post that is
deliberately incorrect, intended to provoke readers; or a person who
makes such a post

I have never made incorrect statements. I do not try to provoke people. I
ask things that I do not know and have always wondered.

Is shaving your body not something a swimmer might do? If someone has
never done it, but wants to know how, is it bad for them to ask?

I said why I forwarded your post. In it, you claim you were a competitive
swimmer for more than five years and you were pretty good. Then you are
gone for awhile, and when you return later in 2004, you pretend to know
nothing about swimming.

If you're uncomfortable about shaving, don't shave.

When was the last time I mentioned shaving?

In your last message. A couple of paragraphs above.

Quoted message said:

That question was a how d i do it without cutting myself, not a should i do
it or will people laugh at me.

I didn't say anything about laughting, you just did.

Quoted message said:

I have given up on what people think of me. If they laugh, than that is
their problem.

Why did you pick this post?

Because in it you claim to have been a good competitive swimmer for five
years, which contradicts the image you chose some time later.

Quoted message said:

What does it matter where I go?

Why is it that you keep changing names?

I don't. I'm using my real name. I have used my real name in the past. I
have changed a few times, when I change newsreader software or ISP
accounts or email addresses or news servers,simply because a new account
is required each time. What do you care what name I use?

Quoted message said:

If I knew it would do any good, I would put you in a killfile, however, you
are good for a comical relief.

You are just an old fart who is well over the hill and is crashing to the
bottom.

How can I ever live it down. Woe is me.

"Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

This is the Micheal [sic] who swims at 1kph etc......??

1kph? do you mean 1 km/hr? You have got to be from the USA. I actually do
a little over 2 km/hr. I can do 1 km in less than 30 mins. I think you
should go back to school for remidial math. I will be in the other
classroom learning how to spell.

Micheal

I was taking the 1 kph from your post where you were 'planning' to swim the
Great Lakes.
by the way, here in Europe we use kph just as the Americans use mph, and not
m/ph.

_ said:

Micheal Artindale said:

You mention that some people on here are trolls. I hope you dont look in the
mirror. You might just see the worst one on here.

When you discover someone is a troll, the best thing to do (for us all) is
to ignore him. You can use filters in your newsreader, but some will
attempt to evade them (Smith has had something like 12 different From:
headers on this newsgroup). Much better to just ignore them.

For those of you who have me in your killfile... well, for those of you
who don't but would like to, here are the names I have used. I don't
plan to change my current name, but you never know.

Martin W. Smith
M. W. Smith
m. w. smith
Martin Smith
mwsmith
Dusty.Rhodes
Duke Kahanamoku

And from my Groucho period:
Otis B. Driftwood
Rufus T. Firefly
WolfJ.Flywheel
S.QuentinQuale
JeffreyT.Spaulding

It took a long time to find all these, but I did get to see the complete
history of Micheal Artindale along the way, which is a tour de force of
rec.sport.swimming not to be missed.

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_ said:

Micheal Artindale said:

You mention that some people on here are trolls. I hope you dont look in
the mirror. You might just see the worst one on here.

When you discover someone is a troll, the best thing to do (for us all)
is
to ignore him. You can use filters in your newsreader, but some will
attempt to evade them (Smith has had something like 12 different From:
headers on this newsgroup). Much better to just ignore them.

For those of you who have me in your killfile... well, for those of you
who don't but would like to, here are the names I have used. I don't plan
to change my current name, but you never know.

Martin W. Smith
M. W. Smith
m. w. smith
Martin Smith
mwsmith
Dusty.Rhodes
Duke Kahanamoku

And from my Groucho period:
Otis B. Driftwood
Rufus T. Firefly
WolfJ.Flywheel
S.QuentinQuale
JeffreyT.Spaulding

It took a long time to find all these, but I did get to see the complete
history of Micheal Artindale along the way, which is a tour de force of
rec.sport.swimming not to be missed.

I think you should do more swimming and less whining.

I will be taking my own adviced tooo.

Micheal