Hey that's interesting. I didn't know that manufacturers were doing this. I don't know Rotec but I remember the Diablo. Can't recall it's design, tho. I couldn't find any info about it on the Jamis site.
The Diablo was a swoopy carbon number I saw in a few shops but never on the trail. The shock was low and housed inside the frame -- it looked like it would have been a [censored] to get at.
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Of course what's most obvious is that only a few manufacturers adopted this system and now it appears to be abandoned. I can specualte that it must be a poor performer and/or be too expensive to manufacture and maintain.
Hey that's interesting. I didn't know that manufacturers were doing
this.
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I don't know Rotec but I remember the Diablo. Can't recall it's design, tho. I couldn't find any info about it on the Jamis site.
The Diablo was a swoopy carbon number I saw in a few shops but never on the trail. The shock was low and housed inside the frame -- it looked like it would have been a [censored] to get at.
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Of course what's most obvious is that only a few manufacturers adopted
this
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system and now it appears to be abandoned. I can specualte that it must
be
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a poor performer and/or be too expensive to manufacture and maintain.
I wouldn't recommend either of these for XC SS'ing, though....
Agreed. You are right. The manufacturers, too, don't appear to be recommending them for XC use.
If you must have a full suspension single speed, how else can it be done? With a chain tensioner??? This is a silly discussion anyway because singlespeeds are supposed to be a departure from these complex systems.
Hey that's interesting. I didn't know that manufacturers were doing
this.
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I don't know Rotec but I remember the Diablo. Can't recall it's design, tho. I couldn't find any info about it on the Jamis site.
The Diablo was a swoopy carbon number I saw in a few shops but never on the trail. The shock was low and housed inside the frame -- it looked like it would have been a [censored] to get at.
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Of course what's most obvious is that only a few manufacturers adopted
this
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system and now it appears to be abandoned. I can specualte that it must
be
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a poor performer and/or be too expensive to manufacture and maintain.
I wouldn't recommend either of these for XC SS'ing, though....
Agreed. You are right. The manufacturers, too, don't appear to be recommending them for XC use.
If you must have a full suspension single speed, how else can it be done? With a chain tensioner???
Yes, 12" travel off-road motorcycles are essentialy single speeds since the transmission is separate from the drive train. A beefy chain guide plus a well placed roller under the swingarm pivot keeps the chain fairly tight and on the sprockets.
Greg
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>I don't know Rotec but I remember the Diablo. Can't recall it's
design,
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>tho. I couldn't find any info about it on the Jamis site.
The Diablo was a swoopy carbon number I saw in a few shops but never on the trail. The shock was low and housed inside the frame -- it looked like it would have been a [censored] to get at.
>Of course what's most obvious is that only a few manufacturers adopted
this
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>system and now it appears to be abandoned. I can specualte that it
must
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be
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>a poor performer and/or be too expensive to manufacture and maintain.
I wouldn't recommend either of these for XC SS'ing, though....
Agreed. You are right. The manufacturers, too, don't appear to be recommending them for XC use.
If you must have a full suspension single speed, how else can it be
done?
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With a chain tensioner???
Yes, 12" travel off-road motorcycles are essentialy single speeds since
the
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transmission is separate from the drive train. A beefy chain guide plus a well placed roller under the swingarm pivot keeps the chain fairly tight and on the sprockets.
Ok, but the size of the chain has got to play a different dynamic here. It's not easy to drop such a wide chain. It's designed to flex as little as possible and it's got to move a lot to fall off such thick sprockets.
