Fuji Tourer now in Australia

Nice bike, lets hope we see more of the Fuji range available her
(Melbourne please!!)

Concerning the price though... On Fuji's website its listed rrp is $84
usd which is equal to around $1170 aud

$1600+ aud here, what's going on? :

Looking at the pic it looks as though its got a quil stem / threade
headset? If so a good idea for a touring bike

Imo the Fuji World is more an audax style bike than 'full-on tourer'
From what I've read an 853 frame and carbon fork are not ideal gear fo
loaded touring

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Nice bike, lets hope we see more of the Fuji range available here
(Melbourne please!!).

Concerning the price though... On Fuji's website its listed rrp is $840
usd which is equal to around $1170 aud.

$1600+ aud here, what's going on? 🙁

Looking at the pic it looks as though its got a quil stem / threaded
headset? If so a good idea for a touring bike.

Yes it has!! and, although i never noticed it, it's also supposed to have
somewhere that you can carry spare spokes, I'll have to have another look at
that next time i see it.

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Imo the Fuji World is more an audax style bike than 'full-on tourer'.
From what I've read an 853 frame and carbon fork are not ideal gear for
loaded touring.

mmm good point, i'll have to go and have another look at the 'World' , i

thought it actually looked a bit more robust than the straight tourer ( I
forgot to read the specs ).

As for the price, yes well, I guess they are playing on the fact that
there's little available in touring bikes here which is why it'd be good
that more people buy them so there'll hopefully be more competition in the
market place and then hopefully better bikes get more cheaper when the
original bikes sold which start to become available on the used bike market
when they become superceded.....well, it kinda works in the motorcar
industry.
Also, when you look at the price of making the bike, then you have the
profit from the US distributors,shipping, then the taxes(import duty)
getting them here as well as GST, then, the profit for Australian
distributors goes on then the profit for the bike shops, is it any wonder
that they cost a motza for the customer and why they devalue so quickly.
I mean, why is it that the Cannondale T2000 is about $3,499? same reason!!
Cannondale has good name in cycling yes, but compare the $3,499 to about
$1,600 to $2,000, the fuji still looks much better value.

Also, on enquiry, Clarence St.Cycles( Sydney) have the Trek 520 on special
at around $2,099 this month which is excellent value as their price is
normally about $2,500. decisions decisions!!

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I suggest you re-check that price with the distributor Euro Solutions.
couple of weeks back, i asked them about the price of the Track bik
(US$600 on the website). They gave me a retail of about AUS$900 (Can'
remember the exact figure) but definately not as inflated as what you'r
talking about

I'm pretty close to getting that Fuji ... already told my LBS guy t
look into it

Cheers Koo

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Koon Yong said:

I suggest you re-check that price with the distributor Euro Solutions. A
couple of weeks back, i asked them about the price of the Track bike
(US$600 on the website). They gave me a retail of about AUS$900 (Can't
remember the exact figure) but definately not as inflated as what you're
talking about. I'm pretty close to getting that Fuji ... already told my
LBS guy to look into it.

Is this the bike you are talking about or is there an '04 model

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/fujitrack03.htm

Have you considered one of these? (~$900 AUD): They are AUSSIE and soun
quite similar to the Fuji

http://www.hillbrick.com.au/reviews/reviews_pista_track.htm

hipp

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I suggest you re-check that price with the distributor Euro Solutions. A
couple of weeks back, i asked them about the price of the Track bike
(US$600 on the website). They gave me a retail of about AUS$900 (Can't
remember the exact figure) but definately not as inflated as what you're
talking about.

I'm pretty close to getting that Fuji ... already told my LBS guy to
look into it.

Cheers Koon

As Gescom pointed out, the fuji tourer was listed in the US for $840

retail, so I'd say it would have cost around the $400-500 mark wholesale in
the States.So assuming that our dollar is worked out at $0.70 to the usd,
that would make it about $650 aussie dollars wholesale plus all the import
duties , shipping costs, insurance, transport to wholesalers depot and our
lovely GST.
Assuming that we work on the retail figure of US $840, it comes to the
equivelant of Aus $1,170 in the usa, well i guess the taxes, insurance,
transportation costs and wholesale and retail profits will make up the
remaining $500-700 that we are being charged, plus i think also that because
there isn't much in the way of Touring bikes here and the high cost of them
that are here, they think that this is pretty much competitive when you put
the fuji up against the Trek 520 for example which after speaking to some of
the ppl at bikeshops and also eurosolutions, I think that the Trek 520 (rrp
$2399) is the one they are aiming against.

I'm not in the bicycle business so i really wouldn't know the profit margins
allowable in Australia, I can only assume with reasonable logic of where the
price build-up would come from, but when you look at the rest of the market
with MTB's & Racers, being very competetive in brands and numbers sold, then
perhaps it might be safe to say that as they've introduced a touring bike
here especially for the touring/commuter market in amongst all the hybrids
out there, that they wouldn't expect to sell all that many in comparison.

The Mongoose Randonneur ex, which has got a nice write up in Aus cycling
mag, retails for about Aus$1575 or there abouts, the next being the Trek 520
which retails for around $2399 so, I guess the Fuji is nicely placed in the
middle to make it more desirable and worth their while.Cannondale is well
over the $3,000 mark.

Last but not least, as I stated before, if more cyclist bought tourers, then
there'll be more competition hence lower prices. We are only a very small
market by comparison and shipping anything here from anywhere costs a
fortune.(although its often been noted that domestic transport costs(wharf
to wharehouse) exceed that per unit of the international shipping costs)

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hippy said:

Is this the bike you are talking about or is there an '04 model?
http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/fujitrack03.html
Have you considered one of these? (~$900 AUD): They are AUSSIE and sound
quite similar to the Fuji.
http://www.hillbrick.com.au/reviews/reviews_pista_track.html
hippy

Yes Hippy, it is the '04 model. Red finish with similar components a
the '03 but better looking in my opinion

Check it out www.fujibikes.co

it might be the alternative to your fixed gear road bike

In addition to the Hillbrick, I've look at the KHS, Cannondale, Avanti
Specialized, Raceline, Cecil walker and the Bianchi (which is no
available in Oz but the pista concept frameset is

the fuji won coz it was available in my size (49cm) and already drille
for a front brake. Plus it was great value for money. I've been lookin
for a fixie for 1.5 years while riding my converted fixed gear MTB an
it's been a fustrating process ... so I'm glad that I've finally foun
something that fullfills my requirements

Cheers Koo

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I suggest you re-check that price with the distributor Euro Solutions. A
couple of weeks back, i asked them about the price of the Track bike
(US$600 on the website). They gave me a retail of about AUS$900 (Can't
remember the exact figure) but definately not as inflated as what you're
talking about.

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I'm pretty close to getting that Fuji ... already told my LBS guy to
look into it.

Cheers Koon

I made enquires yesterday regarding the RRP of the Fuji Tourer, in it's

standard form it is $1529 but many bikeshops are doing their own upgrades
like better rims and possibly dyno-hubs etc

It'll be interesting what that price ends up as!!

DJ

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I made enquires yesterday regarding the RRP of the Fuji Tourer, in
it's

standard form it is $1529 but many bikeshops are doing their own
upgrades like better rims and possibly dyno-hubs etc
It'll be interesting what that price ends up as!!
DJ

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Hey DJ

I made my order for the Fuji early this week. RRP from EuroSolutions i
AUS$895. I'm getting it from the shop for AUS$750. That cheap becaus
I'm a regular customer and I pay in cash

Track bikes are pretty rare compared to roadies but I suppose tourer
are even more so. I'm still surprised that the tourer would be that muc
inflated. Presumably, all the models get imported in together so th
distributer must be getting a bigger slice of the cake on the toure
then the other models. Bummer

Cheers Koo

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I made enquires yesterday regarding the RRP of the Fuji Tourer, in
it's

standard form it is $1529 but many bikeshops are doing their own
upgrades like better rims and possibly dyno-hubs etc
It'll be interesting what that price ends up as!!
DJ

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Hey DJ,

I made my order for the Fuji early this week. RRP from EuroSolutions is
AUS$895. I'm getting it from the shop for AUS$750. That cheap because
I'm a regular customer and I pay in cash.

Track bikes are pretty rare compared to roadies but I suppose tourers
are even more so. I'm still surprised that the tourer would be that much
inflated. Presumably, all the models get imported in together so the
distributer must be getting a bigger slice of the cake on the tourer
then the other models. Bummer.

Cheers Koon

Wow, that's one hell of a discount Koon, so if they are giving you that much
discount, they'd still have to make something out of it..........makes
wonder what the actual profit margin average is per bike.

I guess also that it's mainly the add-ons that make the difference as well,
most people when buying a bike will spend extra on cycling clothes,
bidons,lights, upgraded components and not to mention helmets.

If you've bought a tack bike, then you haven't got the extra cost of
gearing...am I right? what would that bike you've bought cost with tiagra
STI shifeters, Deore rear etc?

But still. good buying Koon, hope you really enjoy your new
bike.......regards.DJ

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Wow, that's one hell of a discount Koon, so if they are giving
you that much discount, they'd still have to make something out
of it..........makes wonder what the actual profit margin average
is per bike.
I guess also that it's mainly the add-ons that make the difference as
well, most people when buying a bike will spend extra on cycling
clothes, bidons,lights, upgraded components and not to mention helmets.
If you've bought a tack bike, then you haven't got the extra cost of
gearing...am I right? what would that bike you've bought cost with
tiagra STI shifeters, Deore rear etc?
But still. good buying Koon, hope you really enjoy your new
bike.......regards.DJ

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At the end of the day a RRP is still a RECOMMENDED price. The bike shop
can charge whatever they want within reason. If you have a goo
relationship with your LBS guy, maybe you could work something out too

I'm not sure I get you with the add ons. i was comparing the RRP fro
Fuji in the US and from the distributor here regarding the Track and th
Tourer bike

It seems to me that the tourer is much more inflated ... which seem
really weird coz anybody these days can get online and check out wha
the bike costs in the states ... and after seeing how much more thi
particular model costs compared to another (within the same brand),
probably wouldn't buy it knowing that it could be alot cheaper. I.e
somebody somewhere is taking a lot more of my money then they should be
But that's just my opinion ... people buy what they think is worth thei
money and I have no problems with that

Regarding the track bike ... check out the KHS, Bianchi USA and Fuj
websites. All these brands have basic track bikes and you'll notice tha
their entry level ROAD bikes aren't that much more expensive. From
manufacturer's point of view, it doesn't cost alot to have gears et
since they buy everything in bulk. In some cases it might even cost mor
to produce a track bike since the frames are different and will b
produced in much smaller quantities. Not to mention, the cranks an
wheels are different too and those will also be produced in much smalle
quantities

BTW, the fuji bike is great ... I suspect the tourer will be
great bike too

Cheers Koo

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Koon Yong said:

BTW, the fuji bike is great ... I suspect the tourer will be a
great bike too.

Bit off the track here, but really Im pretty shocked about how much some
of the tourers available cost. I had a local framemaker build me up a
lovely frame from scratch, and they did a great job for the price. The
other excellent bit was you can then specify *everything* yourself, not
having to make do with whatever they feel like padding this season's
model with.

The builders were Quantum in Perth/WA.

till

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Koon Yong said:

BTW, the fuji bike is great ... I suspect the tourer will be a
great bike too.

Bit off the track here, but really Im pretty shocked about how much some
of the tourers available cost. I had a local framemaker build me up a
lovely frame from scratch, and they did a great job for the price. The
other excellent bit was you can then specify *everything* yourself, not
having to make do with whatever they feel like padding this season's
model with.

The builders were Quantum in Perth/WA.

till

Yeah Till, an excellent suggestion about getting a frame built with the
rider's specs, and I have considered it myself.
May I ask you, did you get your bike made up as a full blown tourer, what
specs did you request and if it's not too impolite, what was the final cost
of the bike when received?
Do you do much in the way of fully loaded touring or mostly commuting?
I'm actually surprised that here in Australia, that because there are not
many touring bikes avail on our market in comparison to the US or UK, that
some of the more well known frame makers don't try to make up an Australian
tourer like in the old days when many bikes were in fact made here instead
of manufactured in the cheaper asian countries.In the US for example, they
have the Bruce Gordon tourers which are very popular and built to last and i
think they actually specialize just in touring bikes and accessories like
racks, panniers etc.Trek has also got the 520 tourer which is hand made in
the US, but it's around US$1,200 there and Aus $2,399 here.

I'd say one good thing about getting one made up is that yu can specify your
gearing straight off without having to upgrade or change what is on offer as
you stated.

Thanks for sharing this info and suggestion Till

Cheers DJ

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May I ask you, did you get your bike made up as a full blown tourer, what
specs did you request and if it's not too impolite, what was the final cost
of the bike when received?

The frame was $1550 for 853 for the main triangle, with 725 for stays.
They usually use 531, and that is a bit cheaper iirc. The bike was built
by the now-defunct gordos in perth.

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Do you do much in the way of fully loaded touring or mostly commuting?

Right now it is a commuter, I cant seem to find a holiday for it dammit.

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I'd say one good thing about getting one made up is that yu can specify your
gearing straight off without having to upgrade or change what is on offer as
you stated.

Yeah, for me that was the kicker. I didnt want ali so steel was the
choice. Snapped up some bar end shifters, deore 48/36/26 cranks, mavic
T520 rims, xt brakes (with travel agents) and tubus racks =)

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Thanks for sharing this info and suggestion Till

No problem,

till