Fuji Sagres - Info?

Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:28:25 GMT,
<[email hidden]>, "Scott Ehardt"

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Any info from model year to original selling price to comments about
the strange frame design would be great!

It's called a "mixte" frame.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_m-o.html#mixte

You might be able to discern the model year from its components.
If that's the Suntour derailleur I think it is then I'm guessing
around 1985.
http://www.firstflightbikes.com/suntour.htm

That stem looks like it's raised past its limit.
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Scott Ehardt said:

comments
about the strange frame design

Nothing weird at all about the frame, it's a mixte. I've owned a few three
speed mixte's and they're excellent for fetching six packs from the corner
market. :P

Looks to be a Pleischer rack on the back.

I'm guessing early eighties by looking at the cranks and components, which
are rather nice for a mixte. Usually I see them around here from the early
seventies and they have one piece cranks or cottered ones.

I'd guess a bike like that sold in the 300 dollar range back then if my
memory serves me.

Seems to be a perfect candidate for a toodlin' bike. 😄

Enjoy it. 😉

Zoot Katz said:

That stem looks like it's raised past its limit.

Hey maybe somebody lucked out and got a lengthy technomic. :P

Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:58:19 GMT,
<[email hidden]>, maxo

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Zoot Katz said:

That stem looks like it's raised past its limit.

Hey maybe somebody lucked out and got a lengthy technomic. :P

For fifteen bucks, okay and throw in the crank too, thanks.
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It's called a "mixte" frame.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_m-o.html#mixte

So it *is* a women's bike! LOL Oh well...

Quoted message said:

You might be able to discern the model year from its components.
If that's the Suntour derailleur I think it is then I'm guessing
around 1985.
http://www.firstflightbikes.com/suntour.htm

Yes, a Suntour derailleur.

Quoted message said:

That stem looks like it's raised past its limit.

Yep, about 3/4" past the limit. Thanks for catching that!

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Hello - I just got a Fuji Sagres of unknown year at a garage sale

Photos:
non-drive side:
http://www.scehardt.com/bike01.jpg
front:
http://www.scehardt.com/bike02.jpg
drive side:
http://www.scehardt.com/bike03.jpg

I don't have much experience with bike repairs, but I want to work on this
one myself. On that note, is this the correct chain for this bike? It has
six gears in the back. http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=7175

Also, I think I need a tool to detach the chain... like this one?
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=6742

I'm sure its apparent by now I need some help to be able to work on this
bike, like a book. There are some helpful websites like Sheldon's, but I
think a book might be better at having everything in one place. Does
anybody have a bicycle repair book they recommend? Possibly one that covers
both road and mountain bikes?

Thanks!
Scott

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Scott Ehardt said:

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It's called a "mixte" frame.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_m-o.html#mixte

So it *is* a women's bike! LOL Oh well...

Not quite. Mixtes were one manifestation of the
thankfully short-lived 70s 'unisex' trend.

cheers,
Tom

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Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:44:31 -0700, <[email hidden]>,

(Tom Keats) said:

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So it *is* a women's bike! LOL Oh well...

Not quite. Mixtes were one manifestation of the
thankfully short-lived 70s 'unisex' trend.

And now we have compact frames instead.. . yuck.
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Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:15:26 GMT,
<[email hidden]>, "Scott Ehardt"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If that's the Suntour derailleur I think it is then I'm guessing
around 1985.
http://www.firstflightbikes.com/suntour.htm

Yes, a Suntour derailleur.

There's lots of different Suntour derailleurs. Most of them good.

The one I'm guessing it might be is one of their not-so-good ones.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hadland/page35.htm

The various date codes stamped into the metal are explained here.
http://www.vintage-trek.com/component_dates.htm

Check the public library for bike repair books.
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zk

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Zoot Katz said:

Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:44:31 -0700, <[email hidden]>,

(Tom Keats) said:

Quoted message said:

So it *is* a women's bike! LOL Oh well...

Not quite. Mixtes were one manifestation of the
thankfully short-lived 70s 'unisex' trend.

And now we have compact frames instead.. . yuck.

Actually, it seems the mixte configuration pre-dates
the '70s by several decades, especially in Europe:
http://www.rijwiel.net/kruisf2e.htm

There are some other, interesting (and perhaps funny-looking)
examples of more exotic frame configs at this site, too.

cheers,
Tom

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Scott Ehardt said:

is this the correct chain for this bike? It
has six gears in the back. http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=7175

Yes and a good deal as well.

Quoted message said:

Also, I think I need a tool to detach the chain... like this one?
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=6742

That'll work, just be patient, that style of tool is a bit persnickity,
but works fine. Remember that your chain will most likely have a stiff
link where you put it back together, but flexing the the sucker a bit
should get rid of that.

The Nashbar chain will come with a quick link, but you certainly want to
wrap the chain around the large/large sprockets sans derailleur to figure
out the right length, you'll most likely remove several links. Thread it
back through the derailleur pulleys when you're done. :P

Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:05:58 -0700, <[email hidden]>,

(Tom Keats) said:

Actually, it seems the mixte configuration pre-dates
the '70s by several decades, especially in Europe:
http://www.rijwiel.net/kruisf2e.htm

I saw old yellow Peugeot mixtes in France used by letter carriers.
Lately I've heard ladies frames being called "Scottish step-throughs".
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Scott Ehardt said:

is this the correct chain for this bike? It
has six gears in the back. http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=7175

Yes and a good deal as well.

Quoted message said:

Also, I think I need a tool to detach the chain... like this one?
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=6742

That'll work, just be patient, that style of tool is a bit persnickity,
but works fine. Remember that your chain will most likely have a stiff
link where you put it back together, but flexing the the sucker a bit
should get rid of that.

The Nashbar chain will come with a quick link, but you certainly want to
wrap the chain around the large/large sprockets sans derailleur to figure
out the right length, you'll most likely remove several links. Thread it
back through the derailleur pulleys when you're done. :P

Thanks for your help! The project is currently on hold until my Nashbar
shipment comes in...

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