Fugawi OS maps on CD

Victor Meldrew said:

Anyone tried these CD-Rom maps? Are the maps as detailed as the printed OS ones, ie. complete with
footpaths, contours etc.? Are the same colours used?

Scans of 1:50k at 200 pixels per kilometer 256 colours the same as that on www.streetmap.co.uk at
zoom level 3 and 4 (you may have to manually change the &Z=1 or whatever, to &Z=3 or 4 in the URL to
get the OS 50k on streetmap as they are rationing it to keep costs down.

fugawi.comfugawiuk.htmlOpen ↗ is the isolated page covering the UK product from the
frameset. fugawi.commaptopoframe.htmlOpen ↗
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In message <[email hidden]>, Des McGarr <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

One thing I am curious about - the name "Fugawi". Reminds me of the rugby song with the lost pygmy
tribe that stands in the long grass shouting we're (where?) the F***-are-we? (Fugawi?).
Coincidence, do you think, or does the company founder have a sense of humour?

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I have the 4 CDs that cover the UK mainland and Scottish Isles in two separate 2-CD sets.

The maps are precisely as detailed as the paper maps. Printout from them is comparable to the
original Landranger paper map, without the key and legends, but limited in size, of course, by your
printer. Colours are identical to the published OS maps. The quality of the home-printed maps are
very good on my HP A4 DeskJet.

I love the facility to mark on the map on the screen (for example a planned walk) with route
markers. I then print it out and laminate it - hey presto, one rapidly produced waterproof map with
the route marked, just the part area want, plus a bit extra in case - no maps blowing about in the
wind, tearing, or dissolving in the rain. I love the way that once you mark out a route like this, a
single click lets you produce an elevation map - a graph of altitude versus distance. This is very
useful in visualising the terrain and estimating walking time. You also get a table of distance,
total ascent, total descent and waymark points.

Another plus is that the maps ARE seamless and you don't end up struggling with an area on the
corner of 4 seperate maps. You just centre on the point or area you are intersted in. Surprising how
often sod's law kcks in and you have to jeep swapping paper maps.

I do not have GPS (and I don't particularly want one) so cannot comment on using Fugawi UK Digital
Maps with a GPS. So really I am only using a subset of the features of the software. In fact, I had
a bit of trouble in initially using it after installation, since the quick start guide is so 'GPS-
centric' and I had to figure out how to do things without any connected GPS by browsing help topics
and experimenting.

Overall I am pleased with the CDs and software. The downside of course is cost - The UK mainland is
covered in 4 CDs (2 for southern England northwards to ~ Leeds, 2 for northwards from ~Leeds to the
Shetlands). The two sets do overlap a decent amount. I have copied all 4 CDS to hard disk (needs
about 2GB) rather than mess about swapping CDs.

The full 4-CD set is currently £180 (2 x £90) in PC World. Maybe there are cheaper sources. Still
this is much cheaper than buying them all as paper maps. The maps do seem pretty up-to-date and ones
I have compared are as up-to-date as the last Landrangers I have bought. Though would be nice to
have had the new 1:25,000 Explorer series (when completed) on CD, the
1:50,000 Landranger series is still very usable.

One thing I am curious about - the name "Fugawi". Reminds me of the rugby song with the lost pygmy
tribe that stands in the long grass shouting we're (where?) the F***-are-we? (Fugawi?). Coincidence,
do you think, or does the company founder have a sense of humour?

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DDM, Looking over the QE to Brum University
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Quoted message said:

Victor Meldrew said:

Anyone tried these CD-Rom maps? Are the maps as detailed as the printed OS ones, ie. complete
with footpaths, contours etc.? Are the same colours used?

Scans of 1:50k at 200 pixels per kilometer 256 colours the same as that on www.streetmap.co.uk at
zoom level 3 and 4 (you may have to manually change

the

Quoted message said:

&Z=1 or whatever, to &Z=3 or 4 in the URL to get the OS 50k on streetmap

as they

Quoted message said:

are rationing it to keep costs down.

fugawi.comfugawiuk.htmlOpen ↗ is the isolated page covering the

UK

Quoted message said:

product from the frameset. fugawi.commaptopoframe.htmlOpen ↗
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Des McGarr said:

a single click lets you produce an elevation map - a graph of altitude versus distance.

Does it tell you anywhere what the resolution of the height data is?

Quoted message said:

The UK mainland is covered in 4 CDs (2 for southern England northwards to ~ Leeds, 2 for
northwards from ~Leeds to the Shetlands). The two sets do overlap a decent amount. I have copied
all 4 CDS to hard disk (needs about 2GB) rather than mess about swapping CDs.

Only half the size of Anquet then. I have GB South which comes on 4 CDs and consumes 2GB of hard
drive space. Any idea why Fugawi is only half the size? Are the maps less detailed? (Anquet is 200
pixels per km wide.)

Paul
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Quoted message said:

The full 4-CD set is currently £180 (2 x £90) in PC World. Maybe there

are

Quoted message said:

cheaper sources. Still this is much cheaper than buying them all as paper maps. The maps do
seem pretty up-to-date and ones I have compared are as up-to-date as the last Landrangers I
have bought. Though would be nice to have had the new 1:25,000 Explorer series (when completed)
on CD, the
1:50,000 Landranger series is still very usable.

There most certainly are cheaper sources. I sell the Fugawi maps at £40 each which works out at £160
for all of the UK on CD. Or for the Scotland & North England, I would sell at £70 and the same for
South & Midlands. So that would be £140. And that is cheaper than Amazon. These prices include P&P
to UK mainland.

Guaranteed originals and no they haven't fallen off the back of a lorry!!!

If anyone is interested, please feel free to contact me

Regards

Ross Henderson

Re elevation data resolution

It seems to say in the import elevation properties box for the supplied elevation libraries
transferred from the CD to HDD the resolution is 30 sec (whatever that means in distance). Does that
seem sensible? Again getting all the elevation library files files off CD onto HDD is not very
intuitive and the manual and help files don't make it obvious how to do it. These are not
transferred as part of the install.

Des

"Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Des McGarr said:

a single click lets you produce an elevation map - a graph of altitude versus distance.

Does it tell you anywhere what the resolution of the height data is?

Quoted message said:

The UK mainland is covered in 4 CDs (2 for southern England northwards to ~ Leeds, 2 for
northwards from ~Leeds to the Shetlands). The two sets do overlap a decent amount. I have copied
all 4 CDS to hard disk (needs about 2GB) rather than mess about swapping CDs.

Only half the size of Anquet then. I have GB South which comes on 4 CDs and consumes 2GB of hard
drive space. Any idea why Fugawi is only half the size? Are the maps less detailed? (Anquet is 200
pixels per km wide.)

Paul
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Chris Morriss said:

Quoted message said:

One thing I am curious about - the name "Fugawi". Reminds me of the rugby song with the lost pygmy
tribe that stands in the long grass shouting we're (where?) the F***-are-we? (Fugawi?).
Coincidence, do you think, or does the company founder have a sense of humour?

No, that's exactly the reason it's called that!

They've even used the expression in an ad campaign!

Des McGarr said:

Re elevation data resolution

It seems to say in the import elevation properties box for the supplied elevation libraries
transferred from the CD to HDD the resolution is 30 sec (whatever that means in distance). Does
that seem sensible?

I don't know, is that lat or long? Long secs vary with lat. How many metres in a lat sec are there?

The Anquet FAQ says this;

"Why do the heights on the maps and heights in the Information box not agree? We use a height grid
that provides spot heights every 50 metres. Therefore when calculating a height, we use 4 points
around it and calculate its height from this data. We therefore will not always match an accurate
spot height. Fine movements of the mouse make a big difference on larger scale maps"

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Sorry - you're getting a bit too technical for me. I have not bothered
scanning the manuals or help files for technical details of height
information. I doubt it is in there anyway. All I can say is that plotting
height data for hill walks I have done, from the full length of the Pennine
Way down to local strolls in the Clent and Lickey Hills, the profile matches
what I recall in terms of steepness of slope (and effort!) - which is all I
am interested in. If you really need more technical info whether they
interpolate from the nearest 4 surrounding points, or however they do it I
suggest you ask
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"Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Des McGarr said:

Re elevation data resolution

It seems to say in the import elevation properties box for the supplied elevation libraries
transferred from the CD to HDD the resolution is 30 sec (whatever that means in distance). Does
that seem sensible?

I don't know, is that lat or long? Long secs vary with lat. How many metres in a lat sec
are there?

The Anquet FAQ says this;

"Why do the heights on the maps and heights in the Information box not agree? We use a height grid
that provides spot heights every 50 metres. Therefore when calculating a height, we use 4 points
around it and calculate its height from this data. We therefore will not always match an accurate
spot height. Fine movements of the mouse make a big difference on larger scale maps"

Paul
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