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  1. Stupidly I gave my email addy to a student cycling clubby thing one
    freshers' fair, and since then have been bombarded with emails. One of
    tehm mentioned raising money for a generator to take to events and power
    lights, pressure washer etc. They've scraped together a few bits (incl a
    couple of frames) to raise a bit of cash. Take a look if you've had
    anything nicked from your bike recently.

    <URL:http://search.ebay.co.uk/
    _W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZleQ2dtriggerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1>

    Stand by for another auction when they realise they'll need to buy
    something for the generator to run.

    If somebody here is from that club tell me who I have to throttle to get
    the emails stopped.

    Mark.

  2. Quoted message said:

    One of tehm [...]

    I am Ian Smith and I claim my five pounds.

  3. Mark Thompson said:

    <URL:http://search.ebay.co.uk/
    _W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZleQ2dtriggerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1>

    Stand by for another auction when they realise they'll need to buy
    something for the generator to run.

    url borked
    --

    "Bob"

    'The people have spoken, the [censored]'

    Email address is spam trapped.
    To reply directly remove the beverage.

  4. In news:[email hidden],

    Call me Bob said:
    Mark Thompson said:

    <URL:http://search.ebay.co.uk/
    _W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZleQ2dtriggerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1>

    Stand by for another auction when they realise they'll need to buy
    something for the generator to run.

    url borked


    you need to get it all on one line, with no gaps.
    or use http://tinyurl.co.uk/q70x
    --

    Martin Bulmer

  5. In news:[email hidden],

    Martin Bulmer said:

    In news:[email hidden],

    Call me Bob said:
    Mark Thompson said:

    <URL:http://search.ebay.co.uk/
    _W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZleQ2dtriggerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1>

    Stand by for another auction when they realise they'll need to buy
    something for the generator to run.

    url borked


    you need to get it all on one line, with no gaps.
    or use http://tinyurl.co.uk/q70x

    OK, so that doesn't work either. I got there by doing copy & paste on the
    long, 2-line url into notepad, removing a gap, then copy & paste into IE
    --

    Martin Bulmer

  6. in message <[email hidden]>, Call me Bob

    (') said:
    Mark Thompson said:

    <URL:http://search.ebay.co.uk/
    _W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZleQ2dtriggerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1>

    Stand by for another auction when they realise they'll need to buy
    something for the generator to run.

    url borked

    Strictly, your software borked. There's nothing wrong with the URL as
    given; it's in the correct format as described in RFC1738 in which the
    URL is defined. The RFC says

    <quote cite="RFC1738">
    In addition, there are many occasions when URLs are included in other
    kinds of text; examples include electronic mail, USENET news
    messages, or printed on paper. In such cases, it is convenient to
    have a separate syntactic wrapper that delimits the URL and separates
    it from the rest of the text, and in particular from punctuation
    marks that might be mistaken for part of the URL. For this purpose,
    is recommended that angle brackets ("<" and ">"😉, along with the
    prefix "URL:", be used to delimit the boundaries of the URL. This
    wrapper does not form part of the URL and should not be used in
    contexts in which delimiters are already specified.

    ...

    In some cases, extra whitespace (spaces, linebreaks, tabs, etc.) may
    need to be added to break long URLs across lines. The whitespace
    should be ignored when extracting the URL.
    </quote>

    If your software does not conform to the spec, it isn't the spec that's
    at fault. Fix your software.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; this is not a .sig

  7. Martin Bulmer said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    url borked


    you need to get it all on one line, with no gaps.
    or use http://tinyurl.co.uk/q70x

    OK, so that doesn't work either. I got there by doing copy & paste on the
    long, 2-line url into notepad, removing a gap, then copy & paste into IE

    Got it, thanks. Agent tends to be pretty well behaved about these
    things, and when a url is split across a couple of lines I always
    rebuild manually without problem. What threw me this time was the ebay
    url didn't look like one I'd noticed before, I didn't realize the
    gubbins below was part of the original. Silly me, and thanks.
    --

    "Bob"

    'The people have spoken, the [censored]'

    Email address is spam trapped.
    To reply directly remove the beverage.

  8. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Call me Bob
    ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On 21 Oct 2004 22:39:15 GMT, Mark Thompson
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <URL:http://search.ebay.co.uk/
    _W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZleQ2dtriggerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1>

    Stand by for another auction when they realise they'll need to buy
    something for the generator to run.

    url borked

    Strictly, your software borked. There's nothing wrong with the URL as
    given; it's in the correct format as described in RFC1738 in which the
    URL is defined. The RFC says


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    If your software does not conform to the spec, it isn't the spec that's
    at fault. Fix your software.

    Mmm software borked, well in that case OE is borked and Mozilla is
    too, as that URL doesn't work in either of them suspect there is a
    line return in the middle of that URL (between .uk/ and _WOQQ )

  9. Donovan's brain said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    If your software does not conform to the spec, it isn't the spec that's
    at fault. Fix your software.

    Mmm software borked, well in that case OE is borked and Mozilla is
    too, as that URL doesn't work in either of them suspect there is a
    line return in the middle of that URL (between .uk/ and _WOQQ )

    Agent, too.
    --

    "Bob"

    'The people have spoken, the [censored]'

    Email address is spam trapped.
    To reply directly remove the beverage.

  10. Quoted message said:

    suspect there is a
    line return in the middle of that URL (between .uk/ and _WOQQ )

    <cuts, pastes into word. Swears.>

    Ooops. Sorry 'bout that.

  11. Mark Thompson said:

    Stupidly I gave my email addy to a student cycling clubby thing one
    freshers' fair, and since then have been bombarded with emails. One of
    tehm mentioned raising money for a generator to take to events and power
    lights, pressure washer etc. They've scraped together a few bits (incl a
    couple of frames) to raise a bit of cash. Take a look if you've had
    anything nicked from your bike recently.

    <URL:http://search.ebay.co.uk/
    _W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZleQ2dtriggerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1>

    Stand by for another auction when they realise they'll need to buy
    something for the generator to run.

    If somebody here is from that club tell me who I have to throttle to get
    the emails stopped.

    Mark.

    --
    Dr Tim King
    Anatomy
    St George's Hospital Medical School
    LONDON SW17 ORE

  12. in message <[email hidden]>, Donovan's

    brain (') said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Call me Bob
    ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On 21 Oct 2004 22:39:15 GMT, Mark Thompson
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ><URL:http://search.ebay.co.uk/
    >_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZleQ2dtriggerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1>
    >
    >Stand by for another auction when they realise they'll need to buy
    >something for the generator to run.

    url borked

    Strictly, your software borked. There's nothing wrong with the URL as
    given; it's in the correct format as described in RFC1738 in which
    the URL is defined. The RFC says


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    If your software does not conform to the spec, it isn't the spec
    that's at fault. Fix your software.

    Mmm software borked, well in that case OE is borked and Mozilla is
    too, as that URL doesn't work in either of them suspect there is a
    line return in the middle of that URL (between .uk/ and _WOQQ )

    Yup, I agree that's probably why, but OE _is_ borked - the RFC
    specifically says it 'the whitespace should be ignored'.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    'there are no solutions, only precipitates'

  13. Simon Brooke popped their head over the parapet saw what was going on
    and said

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Donovan's

    brain (') said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Call me
    Bob ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    > On 21 Oct 2004 22:39:15 GMT, Mark Thompson
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    > > <URL:http://search.ebay.co.uk/
    > >


    _W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZleQ2dtriggerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >
    > > Stand by for another auction when they realise they'll need
    > > to buy something for the generator to run.
    >
    > url borked

    Strictly, your software borked. There's nothing wrong with the
    URL as given; it's in the correct format as described in RFC1738
    in which the URL is defined. The RFC says


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    If your software does not conform to the spec, it isn't the spec
    that's at fault. Fix your software.

    Mmm software borked, well in that case OE is borked and Mozilla
    is too, as that URL doesn't work in either of them suspect there is
    a line return in the middle of that URL (between .uk/ and _WOQQ )

    Yup, I agree that's probably why, but OE _is_ borked - the RFC
    specifically says it 'the whitespace should be ignored'.

    Genuine question, is a line return interperated as a "white space" ?

    --
    yours S

    Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Genuine question, is a line return interperated as a "white space" ?

    Yup. Whitespace is anything that isn't a character. How much clearer
    could you want it? ;-)

    Jon

  15. In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Genuine question, is a line return interperated as a "white space" ?

    Yup. Whitespace is anything that isn't a character.

    Nonsense. Control characters aren't whitespace, and space characters
    are both characters and whitespace.

  16. In article said:
    In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Genuine question, is a line return interperated as a "white space" ?

    Yup. Whitespace is anything that isn't a character.

    Nonsense. Control characters aren't whitespace

    Should read "Control characters aren't _all_ whitespace" (and assumes "isn't
    a character" really means "isn't a printing character" (!isprint(c)), since
    "isn't a character of any sort" doesn't make sense).

  17. Alan Braggins [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    Should read "Control characters aren't _all_ whitespace" (and assumes "isn't
    a character" really means "isn't a printing character" (!isprint(c)), since
    "isn't a character of any sort" doesn't make sense).

    As I said... clear as mud! ;-)

    "Whitespace is the set of characters that are not in the set of non-
    whitespace characters"!

    Jon

  18. in message <[email hidden]>, soup

    (') said:

    Simon Brooke popped their head over the parapet saw what was going on
    and said

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>,

    Donovan's brain (') said:

    Simon Brooke wrote:
    > in message <[email hidden]>, Call me
    > Bob ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

    > > On 21 Oct 2004 22:39:15 GMT, Mark Thompson
    > > <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > > > <URL:http://search.ebay.co.uk/
    > > >


    _W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZleQ2dtriggerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > >
    > > > Stand by for another auction when they realise they'll need
    > > > to buy something for the generator to run.
    > >
    > > url borked
    >
    > Strictly, your software borked. There's nothing wrong with the
    > URL as given; it's in the correct format as described in RFC1738
    > in which the URL is defined. The RFC says
    <snip>

    > If your software does not conform to the spec, it isn't the spec
    > that's at fault. Fix your software.

    Mmm software borked, well in that case OE is borked and Mozilla
    is too, as that URL doesn't work in either of them suspect there is
    a line return in the middle of that URL (between .uk/ and _WOQQ )

    Yup, I agree that's probably why, but OE _is_ borked - the RFC
    specifically says it 'the whitespace should be ignored'.

    Genuine question, is a line return interperated as a "white space" ?

    Yup. I quoted the paragraph from the RFC further up thread. It is,
    unfortunately, normal for Microsoft to deliberately break standards in
    small but significant ways; it's part of their modus operandi
    (convicted monopolists on two continents now, but it doesn't stop 'em).

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    The Conservative Party now has the support of a smaller proportion of
    the electorate in Scotland than Sinn Fein have in Northern Ireland.

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