Frustrated2

I like the graph idea. With my weight loss I like to see what sends me up a
little or down a little. I bought a Tanita Digital scale. I weighed a bag
of salt on it and it was right on the money at 40 lbs.

My sister on the other hand has been at this all her life and I think she is
afraid of the scale. She says that I am obsessing.

I bought the strips, my sister tried them the first few weeks and they
frustrated her. I never tried them but last week I felt as if I was
boiling. The weather was hot, but I felt as if I were melting and I read an
article that this could be a sign.

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Weight loss is not linear, I weigh every day and graph it, here's an

example

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of what it looks like:
http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL39/1526244/2915437/53703197.jpg

How do you know you have never gotten into ketosis? At 45 c/day you

should

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definitely be in ketosis.

Patience is what it takes, I have gone from 292 to 237 in a little over a
year, not real fast, but that's 55 lbs. I no longer have to lug around.

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Mary Hogan <[email hidden]> stated
| Not one Diet Rite a week, one Diet rite a day:
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| I lost about 10 lbs since I started at 212 lbs. this week my loss
| was 8/10 of a lb.
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| Neither of us ever reached ketosis. We have been staying at 45 net
| carbs per day. We have kept a journal.
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|| I helped my sister get on the Low Carb road 6 weeks ago, actually
|| she moved in here on 6/28. She went from 358 at start, to last
|| week 337. The problem is that this week she weighed 343 and followed
|| the plan diligently, except she had one Diet Rite a week, and after
|| symptoms of a UTI cranberry juice on Tuesday (8oz 32 grs carbs) and
|| Wednesday (8oz of the lite 10gr carbs).
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|| How do I keep her motivated? There still is a substantial weight
|| loss on the books?
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See, we have not cut them below 40...that was our lowest day and that was
right before the UTI and things, like my sister bloated and so we became
concerned. She had seen a doctor before we started the program, but we
aren't the rush to the doctor every time you sneeze kind of people. So we
went back to 45.

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[email hidden] (FOB) wrote:

<<<How do you know you have never gotten into ketosis? At 45 c/day you
should definitely be in ketosis.>>>

But, not always true for everyone. I go in ketosis only when my Carbs
are below 25, and has NEVER been in the Burgandy/Purple color, just
Pink.
Faye

"Yea tho I walk thru the valley of the shadow of Fatdom, I fear
not...'cuz I got a pic of Atkins in my pocket."
LC since 6/1/04 150/140/110

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I have a water well and the water is very hard and so we use softener salt.
When I first got the Tanita scale we noticed that it varied from location to
location, from the bathroom to the kitchen, and so we decided on a location
and left it there. After a while we wondered if it was accurate at all and
so I went down to the basement and dragged up softener salt, scientific
experiments should not have variables like location. The scale was right on
the money.

When I dragged up the bag I realized how much 40 extra pounds wears on the
back. I decided to try two bags to get an idea how difficult even climbing
the stairs was for my sister...and she is 140 lbs more than me.

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<<<She is exercising more, little by little. I realized when I carried
two bags of softener salt up the stairs, which is 80 more pounds>>>

Duh, 'scuse my lack of intelligence please Hoogy....but WTH is softener
salt?
Faye

"Yea tho I walk thru the valley of the shadow of Fatdom, I fear
not...'cuz I got a pic of Atkins in my pocket."
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Thank you

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The original post was Frustrated.

I helped my sister get on the Low Carb road 6 weeks ago, actually she

moved

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in here on 6/28. She went from 358 at start, to last week 337. The

problem

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is that this week she weighed 343 and followed the plan diligently,

except

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she had one Diet Rite a week, and after symptoms of a UTI cranberry

juice

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on

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Tuesday (8oz 32 grs carbs) and Wednesday (8oz of the lite 10gr carbs).

How do I keep her motivated? There still is a substantial weight loss

on

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the books?

Contrary to popular belief, most people also need to watch calories on a

low

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carb diet. She may be eating 45g of carbs per day, but if her caloric

intake

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is too high, then she will still have trouble losing weight. If she is
motivated to lose the weight, have her log her food intake on a journal at
www.fitday.com and see where she ends up. You can post the results here so
that some of the more knowledgeable "food people" can have a look at it

and

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see where she may be going wrong. My guess is that there are too many
calories, or more carbs than you're aware of being consumed.

A few other tips:
Drink plenty of fluids, especially water.

Exercise. It can be walking, mowing the grass, wading in a swimming pool,
etc. The object here is to MOVE. You don't need to take on a heavy

exercise

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regimen right away. Eventually you and her may be able to start a light
weightlifting program. The key here is to get started. Most sedentary

people

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will see fast results from incorporating exercise, and it is also very
addictive.

Get rid of all the carby food, and low carb fake foods. These are just
asking for trouble. Keep lots of fresh veggies, eggs, meats, nuts, etc.
around the house. Have these things handy, but do not gorge yourself on
them. 4000 calories a day (just an example) will cause weight gain in just
about anybody. Especially someone that does not do much or any exercise.

Be patient. Some people get off to a slow start with weight loss, and then
all of a sudden it starts dropping rather quickly. Also, keep a record of
body measurements. Sometimes the scale doesn't move, but the inches are
coming off. the next thing to remember is that none of us that were/are
overweight, gained it in a week. We sure aren't going to lose it in a

week.

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This summer has been quite active for me, and to be honest, I cheated on

my

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carbs on occasion, but that fact that I was very active helped me lose 56
pounds in a mere 5 months. It can be done, but the whole plan needs to fit
together for it to happen.

HTH
Chris

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and after symptoms of a UTI

Mary,

When I'm in ketosis and throwing a large quantity of them I get symptoms
of UTI's myself. Drinking a much larger quantity of water to dilute my
urine helps to solve this problem. Has your sister seen a doctor to
confirm a UTI?

Also, keep in mind they sell unsweetend cranberry. It tastes horrid but
just tell yourself you're taking a shot of medicine.

For future reference, blueberries have the same effect on the urinary
tract that cranberries.

It's pretty shockign to think you've been following TWOE so carefully
and aren't in ketosis at all. Do you use strips to test your urine? Is
it possible you got a bad batch?

Good luck,
Laura B.

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She has been eating a lot of blueberries, they are in season and she loves
them.
Perhaps the UTI was a symptom of ketosis and I simply forgot to suggest she
try a strip.

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Mary Hogan said:

and after symptoms of a UTI

Mary,

When I'm in ketosis and throwing a large quantity of them I get symptoms
of UTI's myself. Drinking a much larger quantity of water to dilute my
urine helps to solve this problem. Has your sister seen a doctor to
confirm a UTI?

Also, keep in mind they sell unsweetend cranberry. It tastes horrid but
just tell yourself you're taking a shot of medicine.

For future reference, blueberries have the same effect on the urinary
tract that cranberries.

It's pretty shockign to think you've been following TWOE so carefully
and aren't in ketosis at all. Do you use strips to test your urine? Is
it possible you got a bad batch?

Good luck,
Laura B.

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We did try the new low carb Cheetos this week, but measured...they are 7 gr
per 1 oz, and I did weigh them on my scale before serving them. She is
getting a little crabby these days too, which is unusual.

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Mary Hogan said:

I helped my sister get on the Low Carb road 6 weeks ago, actually she

moved

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in here on 6/28. She went from 358 at start, to last week 337. The

problem

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is that this week she weighed 343 and followed the plan diligently,

except

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she had one Diet Rite a week, and after symptoms of a UTI cranberry

juice on

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Tuesday (8oz 32 grs carbs) and Wednesday (8oz of the lite 10gr carbs).

How do I keep her motivated? There still is a substantial weight loss

on

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the books?

Water weight fluctuations can cause undue dismay. I doubt very much
that she ate 21,000 extra calories that week to put 6 pounds of fat
back on.

Most women "gain" several pounds of water retention before
menstruating.

Enough carb to take her out of ketosis would refill glycogen and
add roughly 5 pounds of temporary water weight for a few days (when
glycogen is stored in the muscles and liver, every gram of glycogen
is stored with several grams of water). This would drop back off
when she goes back in ketosis.

A day of salty foods can do the same with temporary water retention.
I once "gained" 6 pounds of water after overdoing bacon at a brunch
buffet.

A lot of people have noted that in hot weather they tend to retain
fluid, also, and it is August.

HTH

--
jamie ([email hidden])

"There's a seeker born every minute."

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See, we have not cut them below 40...that was our lowest day and that was
right before the UTI and things, like my sister bloated and so we became
concerned. She had seen a doctor before we started the program, but we
aren't the rush to the doctor every time you sneeze kind of people. So we
went back to 45.

Mary, are you and your sister following a specific plan (Atkins, South Beach,
etc.) or a do-it-yourself plan?

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Saffire
205/149/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

I finally am getting a handle on my body. Just the week before, maybe two
weeks before I blew it with a watermelon. It was the week that I was so
sweaty I thought I would melt and so I ate a half of a seedless watermelon.
The morning of the watermelon feast was my lowest weight, 199.6, the
following day I weighed in at 109.3 which was more than my original after we
got the scale, 107. After two or three days I did go down to 206 and then
my lowest morning weight to date after the 199.6 was 202.8.

I had very mild symptoms of the UTI myself but I didn't guzzle cranberry
juice cocktail like my sister did. I had 8 oz of the lite which I went out
and bought that night. So she actually carbo loaded on the cranberry juice.
She also has adverse reaction to legumes such as soy and I had made soy
crepes and stir fry on the same day. But now, your post took me back to my
own escapades with the watermelon.

Thank you, It is so nice to get to know my own body after, for me 54 years.

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Mary Hogan said:

and after symptoms of a UTI

Mary,

When I'm in ketosis and throwing a large quantity of them I get symptoms
of UTI's myself. Drinking a much larger quantity of water to dilute my
urine helps to solve this problem. Has your sister seen a doctor to
confirm a UTI?

Also, keep in mind they sell unsweetend cranberry. It tastes horrid but
just tell yourself you're taking a shot of medicine.

For future reference, blueberries have the same effect on the urinary
tract that cranberries.

It's pretty shockign to think you've been following TWOE so carefully
and aren't in ketosis at all. Do you use strips to test your urine? Is
it possible you got a bad batch?

Good luck,
Laura B.

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Do it yourself, because I, more than my sister actually have been a
carbaholic for years. I am just very active and so my gain has been 70 or
so lbs in 20 years. My sister is more sedentary.

It is working Saffire, I think because of Laura's post I understand the
situation better.

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says...

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See, we have not cut them below 40...that was our lowest day and that

was

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right before the UTI and things, like my sister bloated and so we became
concerned. She had seen a doctor before we started the program, but we
aren't the rush to the doctor every time you sneeze kind of people. So

we

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went back to 45.

Mary, are you and your sister following a specific plan (Atkins, South

Beach,

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etc.) or a do-it-yourself plan?

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Saffire
205/149/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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Do it yourself, because I, more than my sister actually have been a
carbaholic for years. I am just very active and so my gain has been 70 or
so lbs in 20 years. My sister is more sedentary.

It is working Saffire, I think because of Laura's post I understand the
situation better.

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Mary, are you and your sister following a specific plan (Atkins, South

Beach,

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etc.) or a do-it-yourself plan?

I made no comment about whether or not it was working. I just asked which, if
any, plan you were on so we would have a better understanding of how you approach
it. It's easy to assume, for instance, that EVERYONE is doing Atkins when that's
simply not the case. Several people here have worked out their own plan and it
works well for them. It sounds like your sister needs a LOT of encouragement --
I feel for her!

--
Saffire
205/149/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

It seems almost impossible that someone could be too stupid to figure out
how to lose weight.

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breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen

"Mary Hogan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The original post was Frustrated.

I helped my sister get on the Low Carb road 6 weeks ago, actually she

moved

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in here on 6/28. She went from 358 at start, to last week 337. The

problem

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is that this week she weighed 343 and followed the plan diligently, except
she had one Diet Rite a week, and after symptoms of a UTI cranberry juice

on

Quoted message said:

Tuesday (8oz 32 grs carbs) and Wednesday (8oz of the lite 10gr carbs).

How do I keep her motivated? There still is a substantial weight loss on
the books?

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J C are you male or female? Which name do you use...JC or Carmen?
Yes it seems almost impossible that someone could be too stupid to know
their own name...

<< [email hidden] (JC Der Koenig)
It seems almost impossible that someone could be too stupid to figure
out how to lose weight.
--
Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
breathe. You  must be trolling. -- Carmen >>

"Yea tho I walk thru the valley of the shadow of Fatdom, I fear
not...'cuz I got a pic of Atkins in my pocket."
LC since 6/1/04 150/140/110

Hi Faye,

(Faye) said:

J C are you male or female? Which name do you use...JC or Carmen?
Yes it seems almost impossible that someone could be too stupid to
know their own name...

<< [email hidden] (JC Der Koenig)
It seems almost impossible that someone could be too stupid to
figure
out how to lose weight.
--
Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
breathe. You  must be trolling. -- Carmen >>

JC is male and lives in Texas. He is quoting me (Carmen, female from
Tennessee) from a post I wrote to a troll some time ago as a "sig
file".
I ought to start charging for each use. <G>

Take care,
Carmen

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Hi Faye,

(Faye) said:

J C are you male or female? Which name do you use...JC or Carmen?
Yes it seems almost impossible that someone could be too stupid to
know their own name...

<< [email hidden] (JC Der Koenig)
It seems almost impossible that someone could be too stupid to
figure
out how to lose weight.
--
Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen >>

JC is male and lives in Texas. He is quoting me (Carmen, female from
Tennessee) from a post I wrote to a troll some time ago as a "sig
file".
I ought to start charging for each use. <G>

Take care,
Carmen

Here is $1. (internet dollar, that is)

;-)

Hi,

Carmen said:

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JC is male and lives in Texas. He is quoting me (Carmen, female
from Tennessee) from a post I wrote to a troll some time ago as a
"sig
file".
I ought to start charging for each use. <G>

JC said:

Here is $1. (internet dollar, that is)

;-)

Woohoo! Spending spree! <G>

Take care,
Carmen

Mary Hogan said:

When I dragged up the bag I realized how much 40 extra pounds wears on the
back. I decided to try two bags to get an idea how difficult even climbing
the stairs was for my sister...and she is 140 lbs more than me.

Makes ya think doesn't it? I do the same thing when I carry bags of dog
food home... I'm just amazed that my feet were carrying all of that
plus me last March.

Don't let some of the troll digs get ya down in here. They have self
esteem issues and need to offend others to make themselves feel good.

Sounds like your on the right track... keep up the good work.

Laura B.