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  1. I'm after a new fron light, until recently I've been using a Smart twin
    headlight (4w and 10w) with the separate 6v lead acid battery, but due
    to a bike change, fitting this to my road bike is a bit of a pain, so
    I'm on the lookout for a new front light.
    Single light, quick release is required, as well as batteries in the
    main unit.Max. price of £50.
    This is used on occasional dark training rides on the road, and even
    more occasional off-road riding in the dark.
    Cateye do a large range on Wiggle, one, the EL530 at £45, looks to have
    a good spec, but is it overkill - do I really need 1500 candlepower?
    There is another (EL320 at £30) with 'only' 1000 candlepower - would
    that be a better compromise?

    Any others to look at?
    Thanks
    Alan.
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  2. alan@darkroom.+.com (A.Lee) said:

    I'm after a new fron light

    Quoted message said:

    Cateye do a large range on Wiggle, one, the EL530 at £45,
    There is another (EL320 at £30)
    Any others to look at?

    How about the B&M Ixon? Battery powered LED model:

    http://www.amba-marketing.com/products.php?cid=8&pid=345

    http://www.velorution.biz/?p=1053

    I've had mine for a few months now and am very impressed with it. At
    the time of purchase it was a toss up between the Ixon or a more
    substantial investment in a new SON, wheel re-build and Solidlights
    1203D. As I'd not long before bought a decent battery charger and a
    number of AA NiMH's I decided to try the Ixon. I haven't regretted it
    at all.

    Previously I was using two Cateye EL200's but they just weren't bright
    enough to see properly at night. The Ixon on the other hand provides
    plenty of illumination, even using the low power mode gives ample
    light for riding on unlit roads. I rarely use it's full brightness
    mode.

    I'm sure the SON and 1203D combo would produce even more light, but of
    course that comes with a fairly hefty price tag. The Ixon is £55, not
    cheap, but far, far less than a new SON set up. With good
    rechargeables running costs are close to nil.

    The light is easy to clip on or off the bike as needed, can be used on
    multiple bikes (extra brackets £1.49), and, if you need longer run
    times, you just throw 4 more AA's into your seat pack.

    It's a good bit of kit, and certainly worthy of consideration.

    "Bob"
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  3. If you are considering an EL530 wiggle have a twin pack "in stock soon" with
    an LD1100 rear light for £53.99

    If you don't want the LD1100 it would probably fetch around £20 on ebay.

    Jc.

    "Call me Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    alan@darkroom.+.com (A.Lee) said:

    I'm after a new fron light

    Quoted message said:

    Cateye do a large range on Wiggle, one, the EL530 at £45,
    There is another (EL320 at £30)
    Any others to look at?

    How about the B&M Ixon? Battery powered LED model:

    http://www.amba-marketing.com/products.php?cid=8&pid=345

    http://www.velorution.biz/?p=1053

    I've had mine for a few months now and am very impressed with it. At
    the time of purchase it was a toss up between the Ixon or a more
    substantial investment in a new SON, wheel re-build and Solidlights
    1203D. As I'd not long before bought a decent battery charger and a
    number of AA NiMH's I decided to try the Ixon. I haven't regretted it
    at all.

    Previously I was using two Cateye EL200's but they just weren't bright
    enough to see properly at night. The Ixon on the other hand provides
    plenty of illumination, even using the low power mode gives ample
    light for riding on unlit roads. I rarely use it's full brightness
    mode.

    I'm sure the SON and 1203D combo would produce even more light, but of
    course that comes with a fairly hefty price tag. The Ixon is £55, not
    cheap, but far, far less than a new SON set up. With good
    rechargeables running costs are close to nil.

    The light is easy to clip on or off the bike as needed, can be used on
    multiple bikes (extra brackets £1.49), and, if you need longer run
    times, you just throw 4 more AA's into your seat pack.

    It's a good bit of kit, and certainly worthy of consideration.

    "Bob"
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    Email address is spam trapped, to reply directly remove the beverage.

  4. A.Lee said:

    Cateye do a large range on Wiggle, one, the EL530 at £45, looks to have
    a good spec, but is it overkill - do I really need 1500 candlepower?
    There is another (EL320 at £30) with 'only' 1000 candlepower - would
    that be a better compromise?

    LEDs aren't actually that much more efficient that halogen bulbs, so don't
    expect 1 watt LED light to compete with your 10 watt halogen. The main
    advantage of LEDs over halogens is that LEDs last for years, whereas
    halogens have to sacrifice bulb lifetime to achieve good efficiency. IMHO
    the problem with Cateye lights as sold in the UK is that they are
    unregulated. This means that they can claim both high light output and long
    runtimes, but that you'll only get full light output when the batteries are
    fresh. Some of the versions sold in Germany are regulated, but I haven't
    seen them for sale over here.

    For under £50, I'd suggest a Trelock LS-600 (under £30 from Cyclesurgery),
    or for a bit more cash a B&M Ixon as someone else has suggested. Both of
    these are regulated and have good beam patterns designed not to waste light
    (similar to dipped headlights on a car). I use the Trelock, and my only
    real complaint is that it takes 5 AA batteries, which is an awkward number
    to fit in a charger -- and you will want to use rechargables with any high
    powered battery light. Most cheaper battery chargers only take batteries in
    pairs.

    If you're willing to spend lots more, a dynamo system is probably the way to
    go, but the good ones aren't cheap.

    Anthony

  5. Beware of reading too much into the number of 'candlepower' that a lamp
    has. Candlepower is an obsolete unit (roughly equivalent to the modern
    'candela'😉 measuring luminous intensity or brightness. A lamp with a
    very bright, but tiny, central spot will have a high brightness,
    measured on the central axis. It may, however, give out much less light
    than another lamp that emits light over a larger angle.

    For riding on unlit roads I should think that the Busch and Muller Ixon
    lamp would be an excellent choice since it has a beam that is
    appropriately shaped for illuminating a road and not dazzling other road
    users. (See http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b&m.asp)

    For off-road riding you may well prefer a flood-type beam. The Cateye or
    Smart halogen lamps with separate battery packs would probably be a good
    choice but, not being an off-roady, I'll leave a recommendation to others.

    Bob

  6. Bob Johnstone said:

    For riding on unlit roads I should think that the Busch and Muller Ixon
    lamp would be an excellent choice since it has a beam that is
    appropriately shaped for illuminating a road and not dazzling other road
    users. (See http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b&m.asp)

    Thats 3 recs. for the Busch then, looks like I'll take a look at them
    this week.
    Thanks for all of the replies.
    Alan.
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  7. A.Lee said:
    Bob Johnstone said:

    For riding on unlit roads I should think that the Busch and Muller Ixon
    lamp would be an excellent choice since it has a beam that is
    appropriately shaped for illuminating a road and not dazzling other road
    users. (See http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b&m.asp)

    Thats 3 recs. for the Busch then, looks like I'll take a look at them
    this week.
    Thanks for all of the replies.
    Alan.

    Make that 4, I have one as well and it does the job. It eats through
    batteries though, so best to kit up with rechargeables as well.

    --
    Don Whybrow

    Sequi Bonum Non Time

    One tentacle, one vote.

  8. Don Whybrow said:
    A.Lee said:
    Bob Johnstone said:

    For riding on unlit roads I should think that the Busch and Muller Ixon
    lamp would be an excellent choice since it has a beam that is
    appropriately shaped for illuminating a road and not dazzling other road
    users. (See http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b&m.asp)

    Thats 3 recs. for the Busch then, looks like I'll take a look at them
    this week.
    Thanks for all of the replies.
    Alan.

    Make that 4, I have one as well and it does the job. It eats through
    batteries though, so best to kit up with rechargeables as well.

    There was a review of rechargeables in one of my comics (Arrivee, I
    think). The winners in the AA stakes were 7dayshop.com 2700mAh NiMh
    for value for money and capacity.

    Tim

  9. "Don Whybrow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Any recommendations on where to but the Ixon, on the web?

    Jc.

  10. Josey' nospam@josey said:

    Any recommendations on where to but the Ixon, on the web?

    I couldn't find it stocked by any of my usual online suspects. It's
    imported by Amba though, who seem to supply quite a large number of
    shops. You can see a clicky-map-list-doobrey on this page:

    http://www.amba-marketing.com/products.php?cid=8&pid=345

    Any of that lot should be able to get one for you.

    Incidently, the new Ixon Speed model listed on the Peter White site
    someone else linked to looks interesting, although not yet available:

    http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b&m.asp

    "Bob"
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  11. Anthony Jones said:

    For under £50, I'd suggest a Trelock LS-600 (under £30 from Cyclesurgery),
    or for a bit more cash a B&M Ixon as someone else has suggested. Both of
    these are regulated and have good beam patterns designed not to waste light
    (similar to dipped headlights on a car). I use the Trelock, and my only
    real complaint is that it takes 5 AA batteries, which is an awkward number
    to fit in a charger -- and you will want to use rechargables with any high
    powered battery light. Most cheaper battery chargers only take batteries in
    pairs.

    If you're willing to spend lots more, a dynamo system is probably the wayto
    go, but the good ones aren't cheap.

    Anthony


    I'll second the Trelock. Reasonable beam pattern - OK up to about
    20mph on unlit country roads, and does last for the claimed 6 hours on
    full power, plus a reasonable (at least 1hr) once the battert low red
    led comes on. I needed to put a bit of foam tape in the mount to stop
    it rattling when being used off-road, and the battery cover is a bit
    fiddly, but it is very solid and works fine.

  12. Josey said:


    Any recommendations on where to but the Ixon, on the web?

    I got mine from Darth Ben on

    http://www.kinetics.org.uk/html/battery_lights.shtml

    I also got the IX Red for the back and the Topfire, although I don't
    think it will get much use now I don't wear a plastic lid.

    I see that they now do a rechargeable Ixon, so you don't even have to
    worry about the batteries.

    --
    Don Whybrow

    Sequi Bonum Non Time

    "This is all very interesting, and I daresay you already see me frothing
    at the mouth in a fit; but no, I am not; I am just winking happy
    thoughts into a little tiddle cup." (Nabokov, Lolita)

  13. "Call me Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.amba-marketing.com/products.php?cid=8&pid=345

    Any of that lot should be able to get one for you.

    There were none local, and by the time you add postage the model with the
    batteries and charger seems to be around £85 from anywhere in the UK.

    Being a brave soul I'm importing one from Germany, about £51 inc delivery. I
    already have a spare EU PSU adapter.

    Jc

  14. Josey' nospam@josey said:

    Any recommendations on where to but the Ixon, on the web?

    Bike Components in Germany:

    <http://www.bike-components.de/catalog/Diodenlampe+Ixon+%2B+Akku+%2B+Ladeger%E4t+mit+StVZO-Zulassung>

    59 euros for the unit, the batteries and a charger; Add 10 euros for
    postage to the U.K.

  15. Josey said:

    "Don Whybrow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Any recommendations on where to but the Ixon, on the web?

    Jc.

    I just bought a DLumotec DIWA set from bike24.net in Dresden. Took a
    week to arrive.
    Small discount from b+m list price, and p&p was 5.95 euros - lower than
    other german retailers I looked at. They have Ixons too.

    rob.

  16. Seems like the model with batteries and charger are around £85 inc postage
    from the UK.

    Being a brave soul I've imported one from Germany, about £51 inc shipping. I
    already have a spare EU PSU adaptor.

    Jc.

    <if this is a duplicate post, blame my ISP>

  17. My Ixon turned up in just two days.

    Not had chance to ride with it tonight, but it's very bright. Much. Much
    brighter than my 2.4w halogen cateye.

    The light pattern looks good. Very good for a quick-fit lamp,

    Very impressed with quality feel of it too.

    Jc.

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