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  1. Andrew Price said:

    The Ixon puts out very good light, but has serious design faults. The
    mounting is conceived in such a way that the weight of the unit is not
    equally balanced on both sides of the handlebar clamp, with the
    inevitable result that vibration from uneven surfaces will affect the
    alignment of the lamp. No amount of hand tightening is enough to cure
    this.

    The electronics are also temperamental - if the power supply is cut
    due to faulty battery contacts (as supplied, the spring contacts are
    loose and need to be bent by hand to remove slack), the lamp will not
    restart immediately on pressing the "on" button, but only after a
    delay of a minute or so, which means that a stop is almost
    unavoidable. That's not fun when it happens in traffic on an unlit
    road.

    From what I have read on the German cycling group <de.rec.fahrrad>,
    the newer model Ixon (with the black housing) has improved light
    output and focus, but still has the mechanical and electronics
    problems.

    Having just returned an Ixon IQ for these very reasons, yes the light output is
    excellent but the design is rubbish especially with regard to the battery
    connections, could anyone recommend a good mid range high output LED front
    light?

    I'm after something suitable for unlit county lanes but without getting into the
    £100+ area. Ideally something with internal rechargeable batteries.

    Cheers

    Neil

  2. Mark T said:

    ...I've had a look at the batteries and on the + end only the raised 'nipple' is metal - the rest of the surface is non conductive. I'm wandering if that's partly to blame.

    Well, the metal part that is the - end is actually a metal can that's all one-piece with the side of the battery. The + end is that nipple you're talking about set in the middle of a non-conductive button which then is crimped in place to seal the battery. Peel off the (usually) colorful shrink-wrap and you're dangerously close to accidentally shorting the battery out.

  3. rothers said:

    I'm after something suitable for unlit county lanes but without getting into the
    £100+ area. Ideally something with internal rechargeable batteries.

    Having had the second EL530 bite the dust with terminal effect this
    season, I am now seriously tempted by the Ay Up which, whilst coming
    in at just over £100 for the cheapest kit, can be got for less if you
    just get the parts you want. Details at http://www.ayup.com.au and
    their UK distributor comes on line on Monday, allegedly.

    I'm thinking that these will prove to be better value in the long term
    than cheaper lights.

    ..d

  4. TerryJ said:
    Quoted message said:

    On the bright side, they are Very bright

    A hi vis waistcaot (eg £1-50) and ankle bands are very effective
    also and I leave the reflectors on my bikes or add more. They are like
    free lights.

    No, they're not. As soon as you move out of the beam of a car's
    headlights, you could wear all the hi-vis you like and still be
    invisible. Many road users, perfectly legally, carry no lights.

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

  5. On 31 Jan, 18:16, [email hidden] (Ekul

    Namsob) said:
    TerryJ said:
    Quoted message said:

    On the bright side, they are Very bright

    Quoted message said:

    A hi vis waistcaot (eg £1-50) and ankle bands are very effective
    also and I leave the reflectors on my bikes or add more. They are like
    free lights.

    No, they're not. As soon as you move out of the beam of a car's
    headlights, you could wear all the hi-vis you like and still be
    invisible. Many road users, perfectly legally, carry no lights.

    Oh yes they are.

  6. TerryJ said:

    On 31 Jan, 18:16, [email hidden] (Ekul

    Namsob) said:
    TerryJ said:

    > On the bright side, they are Very bright

    Quoted message said:

    A hi vis waistcaot (eg £1-50) and ankle bands are very effective
    also and I leave the reflectors on my bikes or add more. They are like
    free lights.

    No, they're not. As soon as you move out of the beam of a car's
    headlights, you could wear all the hi-vis you like and still be
    invisible. Many road users, perfectly legally, carry no lights.

    Oh yes they are.

    Please don't be so tedious as to think that a simple (and ungrammatical)
    'Oh yes they are' is a means of engaging in rational debate.

    In what way does your hi-vis work then? How does it emit light in the
    darkness?

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

  7. In article said:


    Quoted message said:

    On the bright side, they are Very bright

    A hi vis waistcaot (eg £1-50) and ankle bands are very effective
    also and I leave the reflectors on my bikes or add more. They are like
    free lights.

    Reflectors are excellent value for money and weight at making you visible
    in car headlights. Bugger all use for actually seeing where you are going
    in the dark though, so not a substitute for actual lights if you are going
    to cycle in the dark (or just want to be legal in a street lit area).

  8. Ekul Namsob said:


    Please don't be so tedious as to think that a simple (and ungrammatical)
    'Oh yes they are' is a means of engaging in rational debate.

    Oh yes they are.

    IMHO a hi-vis jacket (or equivalent) at night is as good at making you
    visible as a standard set of blinkies. They do provide a large area for
    the eye to lock onto, making it easier to see where they are than a
    point light source. Also they tend to be higher than most bike lights,
    apart from cyclists pretending to be Daleks.

    Of course a hi-vis or pretending to be a Dalek is no substitute for
    having lits on your bike.

    Quoted message said:

    In what way does your hi-vis work then? How does it emit light in the
    darkness?

    If there is any UV around, then the hi-vis will fluoresce.

    My major gripe with hi-vis jackets is the price some cycle shops sell
    them at e.g. 20+ukp, when a diy shop 200 yards away is selling them for
    3 quid.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, Martin Dann
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    My major gripe with hi-vis jackets is the price some cycle shops sell
    them at e.g. 20+ukp, when a diy shop 200 yards away is selling them for
    3 quid.


    ISTR Tesco has them for a couple of quid ATM.

  10. In message <[email hidden]>

    Rob Morley said:
    Quoted message said:

    My major gripe with hi-vis jackets

    is that they are another layer to don/doff.

    So, what Hi-Viz merino layers are there, that can be covered in
    cold/wet weather with a light Hi-Viz breathable waterproof breathing
    outer layer?

    --
    Charles
    Brompton P6R-Plus; CarryFreedom -YL, in Motspur Park
    LCC; CTC.

  11. Martin Dann said:
    Ekul Namsob said:


    Please don't be so tedious as to think that a simple (and ungrammatical)
    'Oh yes they are' is a means of engaging in rational debate.

    Oh yes they are.

    IMHO a hi-vis jacket (or equivalent) at night is as good at making you
    visible as a standard set of blinkies. They do provide a large area for
    the eye to lock onto, making it easier to see where they are than a
    point light source. Also they tend to be higher than most bike lights,
    apart from cyclists pretending to be Daleks.

    Of course a hi-vis or pretending to be a Dalek is no substitute for
    having lits on your bike.

    Indeed. That is very different from Terry's point.

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

  12. Exscusez moi:-

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    having lits on your bike

    It is important to stay alert - "ne pas dormez" or something, occurs

    --
    Charles
    Brompton P6R-Plus; CarryFreedom -YL, in Motspur Park
    LCC; CTC.


  13. Quoted message said:


    Indeed. That is very different from Terry's point.

    Oh no it's not.

    And I am shortly to refresh my supply of this stuff, which adorns
    several of my windproofs, waterproofs , mudguards, shoes,
    helmets......

    http://www.beseenonabike.com/shopuk/product_info.php?products_id=142

    http://www.beseenonabike.com/shopuk/product_info.php?cPath=33_42&products_id=88

    and allow me to point out ,for those who need to be told, that this
    stuff is not bulletproof, does not help you see in the dark, has no
    nutritional value and the use of it does not preclude the use of
    lights .

    After this thread started I was driving to work in the pitch dark when
    across my path 50yds ahead went 4 tiny glittering things which turned
    out to be the only visible sign of a 'paper boy on his dark bike
    against a black background. I do not approve of his lack of lights (in
    case you were wondering) but his wheel reflectors were better than
    nothing.

    TerryJ

  14. TerryJ said:
    Quoted message said:


    Indeed. That is very different from Terry's point.

    Oh no it's not.

    Please, leave enough of the previous message in your reply for your
    response to make sense.

    Quoted message said:


    And I am shortly to refresh my supply of this stuff, which adorns several
    of my windproofs, waterproofs , mudguards, shoes, helmets......

    http://www.beseenonabike.com/shopuk/product_info.php?products_id=142

    http://www.beseenonabike.com/shopuk/product_info.php?cPath=33_42&products_
    id=88

    and allow me to point out ,for those who need to be told, that this
    stuff is not bulletproof, does not help you see in the dark, has no
    nutritional value and the use of it does not preclude the use of
    lights .

    It's that final point that you had been failing to make. I was
    disagreeing with you, as your statement that hi-vis, etc "are like free
    lights" could be seen to imply that they removed the need for lighting.

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

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