Front Derailleur , top or bottom swing?

"jazu" <nospam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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Which one to buy?
What are advantage one over other?
jazu

I always forget which is bloody which, but the one referred to as
'conventional' swing is what I have started using, after going through the
newer types in around 6 months - they are just utter [censored] and develop a lot
of pivot slop quickly. The conventional one I have on has shown zero signs
of wear so far.

Some full suspension bikes can't use the conventional ones though, as the
clamp can get in the way of moving parts.

HTH some!

Shaun aRe

Westie said:

jazu said:

Which one to buy?
What are advantage one over other?

One fits bikes that have cable routing under the bottom bracket.
One fits bikes that have cable routing along the top tube.

Nope. You're thinking of bottom pull and top pull.

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jazu said:

Which one to buy?
What are advantage one over other?

One fits bikes that have cable routing under the bottom bracket.
One fits bikes that have cable routing along the top tube.
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bomba said:

Westie said:

jazu said:

Which one to buy?
What are advantage one over other?

One fits bikes that have cable routing under the bottom bracket.
One fits bikes that have cable routing along the top tube.

Nope. You're thinking of bottom pull and top pull.

Yep. That's what I was thinking of alright. :-)
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I always forget which is bloody which, but the one referred to as
'conventional' swing is what I have started using, after going through the
newer types in around 6 months - they are just utter [censored] and develop a

lot

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of pivot slop quickly. The conventional one I have on has shown zero signs
of wear so far.

Top Swing = Poo. Use if you have to.

Andy Chequer

"Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"jazu" <nospam> wrote in message

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Which one to buy?
What are advantage one over other?
jazu

I always forget which is bloody which, but the one referred to as
'conventional' swing is what I have started using, after going through the
newer types in around 6 months - they are just utter [censored] and develop a

lot

Quoted message said:

of pivot slop quickly. The conventional one I have on has shown zero signs
of wear so far.

Some full suspension bikes can't use the conventional ones though, as the
clamp can get in the way of moving parts.

Shaun aRe

A lot of newer frames have the cable stop angled for routing the cable for a
top swing front mech. Trying to run a conventional mech on these frames
results in the cable rubbing on the cable stop and makes shifting difficult.

FWIW my Turner frame will only accept a convential mech as the lower band of
the top swing fouls the BB/shock cluster. My On-one will only accept a top
swing because of the cable stop positioning.

Steve.

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A lot of newer frames have the cable stop angled for routing the cable for

a

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top swing front mech. Trying to run a conventional mech on these frames
results in the cable rubbing on the cable stop and makes shifting

difficult.

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FWIW my Turner frame will only accept a convential mech as the lower band

of

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the top swing fouls the BB/shock cluster. My On-one will only accept a top
swing because of the cable stop positioning.

Steve.

Oh FFS. It's a conspiracy!!!!!!!

Andy Chequer, keepin' it old. Nyeeeeh.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 00:55:14 -0700, "jazu" <nospam> blathered:

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Which one to buy?
What are advantage one over other?

Conventional -
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/productimages/GearMechsFrontShimanoXTF-MechConventionalM751.jpg

Top swing -
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/productimages/GearMechsFrontShimanoLXF-MechTopSwing8spM567.jpg

Conventional every time unless you can't for reasons of frame design;
they're much longer lasting than top swing mechs.

Pete

"Andy Chequer" <andy@(youdontwantthisbitinit)thisisasparagus.com> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

I always forget which is bloody which, but the one referred to as
'conventional' swing is what I have started using, after going through

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

newer types in around 6 months - they are just utter [censored] and develop a

lot

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of pivot slop quickly. The conventional one I have on has shown zero

signs

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of wear so far.

Top Swing = Poo. Use if you have to.

That's the [censored]! Thanks Andy ',;~}~

Shaun aRe

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Top Swing = Poo. Use if you have to.

That's the [censored]! Thanks Andy ',;~}~

No worries. [censored] is the word.

Andy Chequer

Pete Jones said:

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 00:55:14 -0700, "jazu" <nospam> blathered:

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Which one to buy?
What are advantage one over other?

Conventional -

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/productimages/GearMechsFrontShimanoXTF-MechConventionalM751.jpg

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Top swing -

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/productimages/GearMechsFrontShimanoLXF-MechTopSwing8spM567.jpg

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Conventional every time unless you can't for reasons of frame design;
they're much longer lasting than top swing mechs.

Pete

Perfect explanation! thnx...

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jazu' nospam said:

Which one to buy?
What are advantage one over other?
jazu

Neither!

Peace,
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