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  1. Hi everyone. I'm trying to get my front derailleur setup for a ride
    tomorrow but am having trouble. The chain is rubbing against the
    derailleur cage in the "granny gear." On closer inspection, it looks
    like a plastic piece on the cage, near the limit adjustment screws, is
    hitting the seat tube before the cage moves far enough to get away
    from the chain. The derailleur is a Shimano Deore (not sure which one
    specifically) on an Iron Horse Warrior Race. Here is a link to a
    picture of the problem if it helps.
    http://spaaarky21.home.comcast.net/IMG_0038.jpg
    Is there something wrong with my deraileur? And better yet, does
    anyone know how to fix this?

    -Brandon

  2. Brandon said:

    Hi everyone. I'm trying to get my front derailleur setup for a ride
    tomorrow but am having trouble. The chain is rubbing against the
    derailleur cage in the "granny gear." On closer inspection, it looks
    like a plastic piece on the cage, near the limit adjustment screws, is
    hitting the seat tube before the cage moves far enough to get away
    from the chain. The derailleur is a Shimano Deore (not sure which one
    specifically) on an Iron Horse Warrior Race. Here is a link to a
    picture of the problem if it helps.
    http://spaaarky21.home.comcast.net/IMG_0038.jpg
    Is there something wrong with my deraileur? And better yet, does
    anyone know how to fix this?

    If lucky, you might get it to work by rotating the derailleur around the
    frame element. A tiny amount may be all it needs. But if its far, you run
    risk of chain not running straight through the cage.

    Next option is to move the front rings out a fraction. Should be possible to
    get a spacer washer to fit between the RH bottom bracket cup and the frame.
    Thinnest washer you can find should do it (I'm thinking 0.5 or 1.0 mm). This
    requires removal of cranks (probably both sides), then taking out the RH
    bottom bracket cup (or the cartridge) to fit the washer.

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  3. Brandon said:

    Hi everyone. I'm trying to get my front derailleur setup for a ride
    tomorrow but am having trouble. The chain is rubbing against the
    derailleur cage in the "granny gear." On closer inspection, it looks
    like a plastic piece on the cage, near the limit adjustment screws, is
    hitting the seat tube before the cage moves far enough to get away
    from the chain.

    I used a Shimano Sora double front derailleur on a triple crankset
    with a short as I could get bottom bracket. Front derailleur hit the
    seattube before shifting to the inner ring. I was able to get it to
    shift in far enough by grinding off parts of the front derailleur.
    See if what is hitting the seattube is essential and could be ground
    off to allow the front derailleur to move inwards enough.

    The derailleur is a Shimano Deore (not sure which one

    Quoted message said:

    specifically) on an Iron Horse Warrior Race. Here is a link to a
    picture of the problem if it helps.http://spaaarky21.home.comcast.net/IMG_0038.jpg
    Is there something wrong with my deraileur? And better yet, does
    anyone know how to fix this?

    -Brandon

  4. Brandon said:

    Hi everyone. I'm trying to get my front derailleur setup for a ride
    tomorrow but am having trouble. The chain is rubbing against the
    derailleur cage in the "granny gear." On closer inspection, it looks
    like a plastic piece on the cage, near the limit adjustment screws, is
    hitting the seat tube before the cage moves far enough to get away
    from the chain. The derailleur is a Shimano Deore (not sure which one
    specifically) on an Iron Horse Warrior Race. Here is a link to a
    picture of the problem if it helps.
    http://spaaarky21.home.comcast.net/IMG_0038.jpg
    Is there something wrong with my deraileur? And better yet, does
    anyone know how to fix this?

    -Brandon

    Grind it off to fit. It doesn't do anything. It's some sort of cover I
    think.

    Lou
    --
    Posted by news://news.nb.nu (http://www.nb.nu)

  5. Lou Holtman said:
    Brandon said:

    Hi everyone. I'm trying to get my front derailleur setup for a ride
    tomorrow but am having trouble. The chain is rubbing against the
    derailleur cage in the "granny gear." On closer inspection, it looks
    like a plastic piece on the cage, near the limit adjustment screws, is
    hitting the seat tube before the cage moves far enough to get away
    from the chain. The derailleur is a Shimano Deore (not sure which one
    specifically) on an Iron Horse Warrior Race. Here is a link to a
    picture of the problem if it helps.
    http://spaaarky21.home.comcast.net/IMG_0038.jpg
    Is there something wrong with my deraileur? And better yet, does
    anyone know how to fix this?

    Quoted message said:

    -Brandon

    Grind it off to fit. It doesn't do anything. It's some sort of cover I
    think.

    Lou
    --
    Posted by news://news.nb.nu (http://www.nb.nu)

    I thought about doing that. I still might but I am thinking about
    just getting a better derailleur. After reading some reviews at
    mtbr.com, it sounds like a better derailleur might perform better all
    together. I'm thinking about getting the Shimano XT FD-M761. From
    what I can see in the picture, it has a much cleaner design that would
    stay away from the frame a little better. Can any who own one comment
    on whether that's true or not?

    -Brandon

  6. Brandon said:
    Lou Holtman said:
    Brandon said:

    Hi everyone. I'm trying to get my front derailleur setup for a ride
    tomorrow but am having trouble. The chain is rubbing against the
    derailleur cage in the "granny gear." On closer inspection, it looks
    like a plastic piece on the cage, near the limit adjustment screws, is
    hitting the seat tube before the cage moves far enough to get away
    from the chain. The derailleur is a Shimano Deore (not sure which one
    specifically) on an Iron Horse Warrior Race. Here is a link to a
    picture of the problem if it helps.
    http://spaaarky21.home.comcast.net/IMG_0038.jpg
    Is there something wrong with my deraileur? And better yet, does
    anyone know how to fix this?
    -Brandon


    Grind it off to fit. It doesn't do anything. It's some sort of cover I
    think.

    Lou
    --
    Posted by news://news.nb.nu (http://www.nb.nu)

    I thought about doing that. I still might but I am thinking about
    just getting a better derailleur. After reading some reviews at
    mtbr.com, it sounds like a better derailleur might perform better all
    together. I'm thinking about getting the Shimano XT FD-M761. From
    what I can see in the picture, it has a much cleaner design that would
    stay away from the frame a little better. Can any who own one comment
    on whether that's true or not?

    -Brandon

    Down swing is always better.

    Lou
    --
    Posted by news://news.nb.nu (http://www.nb.nu)

  7. Quoted message said:

    Down swing is always better.

    Why is that? I think it looks like it might be better because the arm
    that the cage is attached to isn't "trapped" between the cage and the
    frame. That seems to be causing clearance problems now. It could be
    that the chain rings are too near to the seat tube but the clearance
    between the crank arms and the frame are good so I don't really want
    to mess with that too much.

  8. Brandon said:
    Quoted message said:

    Down swing is always better.

    Why is that?

    Look at the two. it is stiffer. Topswing unit is a cheap sheetmetal
    piece. It's because of chainguards and full suspension pivots why they
    'invented' that cheap piece of junk. If there is a choice choose the
    downswing.

    I think it looks like it might be better because the arm

    Quoted message said:

    that the cage is attached to isn't "trapped" between the cage and the
    frame. That seems to be causing clearance problems now. It could be
    that the chain rings are too near to the seat tube but the clearance
    between the crank arms and the frame are good so I don't really want
    to mess with that too much.

    As I said if that's your only problem grind it to fit.

    Lou

    --
    Posted by news://news.nb.nu (http://www.nb.nu)

  9. Quoted message said:

    As I said if that's your only problem grind it to fit.

    Too late. I ordered an XT FD-D761 downswing last night. Looks like a
    better design and the cage looks a lot more rigid. I was never
    impressed with the plain old Deore I have now so even if I could have
    gotten it to work, I think I will like this one better. I got it for
    a good price too. Most places wanted about $45 and the Trek Store
    wanted almost $90. I found it online for $31 (new from a store, not
    on eBay) and I used the $10 credit from signing up for Google Checkout
    to cover shipping and then some. All together it cost me $28 so I'm
    willing to give it a try. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed, hoping
    that the clamp doesn't get in the way of the lower water bottle cage
    mount.

  10. By the way, to anyone who might be reading this later on, the XT down
    swing derailleur I ordered is awesome. It stays away from the seat
    tube (which means the "low" screw can actually be adjusted properly)
    and shifts great. Well worth it, even if I had paid the normal retail
    price.

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