From the BBC...the Plaster Pump

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Obviously sketchy on details due to minor things like
patents and methods, but interesting nonetheless. Appears
to be some kind of disposable micropump.

Did you clock the amount of money that's been "granted"
Ratty? A whole 120 grand. I'm amazed at the generosity of
our wonderful govmint.

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Obviously sketchy on details due to minor things like

patents and

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methods, but interesting nonetheless. Appears to be some

kind of

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disposable micropump.

Did you clock the amount of money that's been "granted"

Ratty? A whole 120

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grand. I'm amazed at the generosity of our wonderful

govmint.

I think they are only being granted the money to evaluate a
pre existing device, that's how I read it anyway. I was
wondering how people bolus, do you add to the plaster
somehow? I couldn't find anything elsewhere just an old
Medscape article about a 24 hour patch, this one is
supposedly a 3 day thingy.

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news.bbc.co.uk3617501.stmOpen ↗

Obviously sketchy on details due to minor things like

patents and

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methods, but interesting nonetheless. Appears to be
some

kind of

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disposable micropump.

Did you clock the amount of money that's been "granted"

Ratty? A whole 120

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grand. I'm amazed at the generosity of our wonderful

govmint.

I think they are only being granted the money to evaluate
a pre existing device, that's how I read it anyway. I was
wondering how people bolus, do you add to the plaster
somehow?

I'd imagine bolusing would be done "as per usual" Jan. Most
of these wonderous newfangled systems always seem to have
SOMETHING missing, but that doesn't seem to stop the "idea's
men" constantly informing us that we'll be able to "live a
normal life" (presumably that also means free from
injections.

I couldn't find anything elsewhere just an old

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Medscape article about a 24 hour patch, this one is
supposedly a 3 day thingy.

I'll stick with the sticking thank you very much. At least
with that method I KNOW what I've got to do and when:-)

Beav

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> news.bbc.co.uk3617501.stmOpen ↗
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> Obviously sketchy on details due to minor things like

patents and

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> methods, but interesting nonetheless. Appears to
> be some

kind of

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> disposable micropump.

Did you clock the amount of money that's been "granted"

Ratty? A whole 120

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grand. I'm amazed at the generosity of our wonderful

govmint.

I think they are only being granted the money to evaluate
a pre existing device, that's how I read it anyway. I was
wondering how people bolus, do you add to the plaster
somehow?

I'd imagine bolusing would be done "as per usual" Jan.
Most of these wonderous newfangled systems always seem to
have SOMETHING missing, but that doesn't seem to stop the
"idea's men" constantly informing us that we'll be able to
"live a normal life" (presumably that also means free from
injections.

I couldn't find anything elsewhere just an old

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Medscape article about a 24 hour patch, this one is
supposedly a 3 day thingy.

I'll stick with the sticking thank you very much. At least
with that method I KNOW what I've got to do and when:-)

Beav

I agree, Beav. I also note they say free from injections as
though injections were some horrible, terrible thing that
*normal* people find abhjorrent. They did not say that, but
the implication is clear enough when they state *able to
live a normal life*.

live. My stash grows bigger by 3 months every 4 weeks, and
Sachin don't care. He just signs the scrip, no
questions asked.

Al.

"Patches" are an old technology (Brits call them
"plasters"😉. They've never worked for insulin because the
dosage control is too erratic, and tends to tail off. Take a
look at the old work at Langer Labs at MIT for examples of
related technologies for contraception, cancer treatment,
and similar uses. The concatreptive patches being advertised
on TV use such technologies.

Now, if such a patch could have a glucose controlled
feedback mechanism....

What do you do for a bolus? Wack the thing? Jon

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"Patches" are an old technology (Brits call them
"plasters"😉. They've never worked for insulin because the
dosage control is too erratic, and tends to tail off. Take
a look at the old work at Langer Labs at MIT for examples
of related technologies for contraception, cancer
treatment, and similar uses. The concatreptive patches
being advertised on TV use such technologies.

Now, if such a patch could have a glucose controlled
feedback mechanism....

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t2 - on MDI Insulin

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I'll stick with the sticking thank you very much. At
least with that method I KNOW what I've got to do and
when:-)

Beav

I agree, Beav. I also note they say free from injections
as though injections were some horrible, terrible thing
that *normal* people find abhjorrent.

Yeah, these people seem to think that injections are the
worst part of being

They did not say that, but the implication is clear
enough when

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they state *able to live a normal life*.

Well to ME, a normal life is being able to get up without
testing/adjusting, go OUT without testing/adjusting, DRIVE
without testing/adjusting and to occasionally dive into the
fridge, the breadbox of the pantry without wondering if I'm
doing meself damage. I honsetly can't see a patch addressing
even ONE of those issues.

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live.

Me too!

My stash grows bigger by 3 months every 4 weeks, and
Sachin don't

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care. He just signs the scrip, no questions asked.

As it should be, and my stash is still growing too. I may
even have to put a new shelf up in the fridge:-)) Anyone got
a spare bit of oak and a few screws??

Beav

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"Patches" are an old technology (Brits call them
"plasters"😉. They've

never

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worked for insulin because the dosage control is too
erratic, and tends to tail off. Take a look at the old
work at Langer Labs at MIT for examples

of

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related technologies for contraception, cancer treatment,
and similar

uses.

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The concatreptive patches being advertised on TV use such
technologies.

Now, if such a patch could have a glucose controlled
feedback

mechanism....

That's what I've been saying for years about pumps and the
so called "closed loop" systems being bandied about. Until
there's a supply of glucose and delivery system that's
linked directly to a GOOD meter, none of us are going to be
in that "I live a normal life" category, despite all of us
either wanting to be, or thinking we are already because
we've got half decent control.

Beav