French End to End?

bob watkinson said:

Is there a recognised End to End in France similar to our LEJOG?

French tourists ride "les Diagonales" between Brest, Dunkerque, Strasbourg,
Menton, Perpignan, and Hendaye, the advantage being that there are several
to collect:

http://diagonales.homelinux.net/adf/?page=410&menu=4

Click on the vertical menu to the left for detailed route suggestions.

James Thomson

James Thomson said:

bob watkinson said:

Is there a recognised End to End in France similar to our LEJOG?

French tourists ride "les Diagonales" between Brest, Dunkerque, Strasbourg,
Menton, Perpignan, and Hendaye, the advantage being that there are several
to collect:

http://diagonales.homelinux.net/adf/?page=410&menu=4

Click on the vertical menu to the left for detailed route suggestions.

James Thomson

Thanks for that James. What a good idea, maybe we should do diagonals
here too - Dover to Cape Wrath

bob watkinson said:

Thanks for that James. What a good idea, maybe we should do diagonals
here too - Dover to Cape Wrath

See <http://www.audax.uk.net/cal/perms/index.htm>. Click on The Great
Triangle.

--
Dave...

dkahn400 said:

bob watkinson said:

Thanks for that James. What a good idea, maybe we should do diagonals
here too - Dover to Cape Wrath

See <http://www.audax.uk.net/cal/perms/index.htm>. Click on The Great
Triangle.

--
Dave...

Or go for the four corners. Dunnet head, Lowestoft, Lizard point and
Ardnamurchan point. Whilst going through Meriden and Allendale.

...d

bob watkinson said:

Is there a recognised End to End in France similar to our LEJOG? Anyone
got any details?

Diagonales are the closest. See
http://www.randonneurs.bc.ca/odds_and_ends/cycle_tour.html#anchor107626
http://diagonales.homelinux.net/adf/index.php?page=416&menu=4
http://diagonales.homelinux.net/adf/index.php?page=415&menu=4
Bonne Route
Dan Gregory

James Thomson said:

bob watkinson said:

Is there a recognised End to End in France similar to our LEJOG?

French tourists ride "les Diagonales" between Brest, Dunkerque, Strasbourg,
Menton, Perpignan, and Hendaye, the advantage being that there are several
to collect:

http://diagonales.homelinux.net/adf/?page=410&menu=4

Click on the vertical menu to the left for detailed route suggestions.

<pedant>

He asked for an End to End, not a Corner to Corner

</pedant> ;-)

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Tony Raven said:

<pedant>

He asked for an End to End, not a Corner to Corner

</pedant> ;-)

I'll raise you that. Now show me a corner that isn't at the end of at
least one edge..

...d

David Martin said:

Tony Raven said:

<pedant>

He asked for an End to End, not a Corner to Corner

</pedant> ;-)

I'll raise you that. Now show me a corner that isn't at the end of at
least one edge..

Any one of the four corners in this simple symbol: X

See http://www.pzwheelers.co.uk/news2005.htm#roscoffnice

It was printed in Arrivee last year too. The pictures looked great.

Dave

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Quoted message said:

bob watkinson said:

Is there a recognised End to End in France similar to our LEJOG? Anyone
got any details?

Diagonales are the closest. See
http://www.randonneurs.bc.ca/odds_and_ends/cycle_tour.html#anchor107626
http://diagonales.homelinux.net/adf/index.php?page=416&menu=4
http://diagonales.homelinux.net/adf/index.php?page=415&menu=4
Bonne Route
Dan Gregory

David Martin said:

Or go for the four corners. Dunnet head, Lowestoft, Lizard point and
Ardnamurchan point. Whilst going through Meriden and Allendale.

Lowestoft?!?!?! Being a Man of Kent[1], I resent that.

d.

1.Or is it a Kentish Man? I can never remember...

bob watkinson said:

Is there a recognised End to End in France similar to our LEJOG? Anyone
got any details?

There's a very well recognised Start to End about once a year called the
Tour de France... 😉

IGMC

JimP

--
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to
grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after
all. - DNA

Jim Price said:

There's a very well recognised Start to End about once a year called the
Tour de France... 😉

The Paris-Nice is probably more like what the OP had in mind - you could
easily tack a bit on the front end of that (Dunkerque-Paris) to make an
end-to-end.

d.

davek said:

David Martin said:

Or go for the four corners. Dunnet head, Lowestoft, Lizard point and
Ardnamurchan point. Whilst going through Meriden and Allendale.

Lowestoft?!?!?! Being a Man of Kent[1], I resent that.

d.

1.Or is it a Kentish Man? I can never remember...

Surely any Kentish Man / Man of Kent should know that!

In simple terms for the benefit of the non-natives, and those that
really ought to know... Man of Kent is East of the Medway, and Kentish
Man is West of the Medway.

--
AndyM (Kentish Man)

David Martin said:

dkahn400 said:

bob watkinson said:

Thanks for that James. What a good idea, maybe we should do diagonals
here too - Dover to Cape Wrath

See <http://www.audax.uk.net/cal/perms/index.htm>. Click on The Great
Triangle.

Quoted message said:

Or go for the four corners. Dunnet head, Lowestoft, Lizard point and
Ardnamurchan point. Whilst going through Meriden and Allendale.

The four corners are surely LE, JOG, Cape Wrath and Dover. Though for
better scenery you could substitute Dungeness for the last.

The four furthest points of the mainland are The Lizard, Lowestoft,
Ardnamurchan Point and Dunnet Head being the furthest South, East,
West and North you can go without falling off the edge. But these days
with the Skye bridge you can get further West than Ardnamurchan
without getting wet; Neist lighthouse.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Tom Crispin said:

David Martin said:

Tony Raven said:

<pedant>

He asked for an End to End, not a Corner to Corner

</pedant> ;-)

I'll raise you that. Now show me a corner that isn't at the end of at
least one edge..

Any one of the four corners in this simple symbol: X

Ah, now find me a geographical region with zero area (Middlesex
doesn't count).

...d

Andy M said:

In simple terms for the benefit of the non-natives, and those that
really ought to know... Man of Kent is East of the Medway, and Kentish
Man is West of the Medway.

I'm not sure it's so clear cut - I've heard several different
explanations, all claiming to be definitive.

But it still doesn't answer this: why is the pub in East Peckham called
the Man of Kent, when it is clearly west of the Medway?

And is it based on where you were born or where you were raised?
(Different in either case for me.)

d.

davek said:

Andy M said:

In simple terms for the benefit of the non-natives, and those that
really ought to know... Man of Kent is East of the Medway, and Kentish
Man is West of the Medway.

I'm not sure it's so clear cut - I've heard several different
explanations, all claiming to be definitive.

But it still doesn't answer this: why is the pub in East Peckham called
the Man of Kent, when it is clearly west of the Medway?

s'like the green man. It is referring to a not normal for the location
entity..

...d

David Martin said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'll raise you that. Now show me a corner that isn't at the end of at
least one edge..

Any one of the four corners in this simple symbol: X

Ah, now find me a geographical region with zero area (Middlesex
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I'll find you two.

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davek said:

Andy M said:

In simple terms for the benefit of the non-natives, and those that
really ought to know... Man of Kent is East of the Medway, and Kentish
Man is West of the Medway.

I'm not sure it's so clear cut - I've heard several different
explanations, all claiming to be definitive.

I did say "in simple terms", and that refers to the modern day generally
accepted "boundary". IIRC the border between the two has moved over
time, with MoK being just Thanet area, E. of a vaguely vertical line
through Gillingham, and even more West such that Gravesend is MoK.
In fact it's even possible to argue that KM is basically those regions
that are now in effect part of London (Bexley, Bromley etc.), and MoK is
Kent proper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent

Quoted message said:

But it still doesn't answer this: why is the pub in East Peckham called
the Man of Kent, when it is clearly west of the Medway?

There's one in/near Gravesend too.

Quoted message said:

And is it based on where you were born or where you were raised?
(Different in either case for me.)

Where you are born.
Some people say resident, but that's wrong. If you are a resident of,
but not born in the Kingdom of Cantia, then you are a foreigner.

--
AndyM.