French Bias

sodaant said:

What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

Lafferty only knows.

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From the official Tour de France web site:

"Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
battle subsequently ensued."

What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

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From their profile of Hinault:

"Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

Absolutely. Hinault admitted that there had been some misunderstanding about
his way of riding, but that was only because not everyone had understood
that he wanted to give his team-mate a much more valuable gift than a simple
Tour victory. By his seeming resistance he wanted to impart >character= to
LeMond: "Thanks to me Greg has become a very good rider. Later on he=ll
draw a lot of benefit from the psychological war I=ve waged against him.
From now on he=ll be capable of winning the toughest races. I=ve taught him
a lot. In future he=ll be able to defend himself on every terrain and that,
too, he owes in part to me. I don=t regret what I=ve done, because it was
all for his own good".

Benjo

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Absolutely. Hinault admitted that there had been some misunderstanding about
his way of riding, but that was only because not everyone had understood
that he wanted to give his team-mate a much more valuable gift than a simple
Tour victory.

With friends like that, who needs enemies?

benjo maso said:

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Quoted message said:

From the official Tour de France web site:

Quoted message said:

"Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
battle subsequently ensued."

Quoted message said:

What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From their profile of Hinault:

Quoted message said:

"Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

Quoted message said:

Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

Absolutely. Hinault admitted that there had been some misunderstanding about
his way of riding, but that was only because not everyone had understood
that he wanted to give his team-mate a much more valuable gift than a simple
Tour victory. By his seeming resistance he wanted to impart >character= to
LeMond: "Thanks to me Greg has become a very good rider. Later on he=ll
draw a lot of benefit from the psychological war I=ve waged against him.
From now on he=ll be capable of winning the toughest races. I=ve taught him
a lot. In future he=ll be able to defend himself on every terrain and that,
too, he owes in part to me. I don=t regret what I=ve done, because it was
all for his own good".

That's why I kick my dog when he's sleeping. Can't trust anyone, and
he's a better dog for knowing that.

R

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the french bias is that the french team aren't allow to train OUTSIDE France
before the tour, meanwhile other countries don't accept dope control, it's
like financial paradise aurond here.
come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the past
everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american girls in
athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all dope. it'es
easy to see that.

it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious

bidon jaune said:

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the french bias is that the french team aren't allow to train OUTSIDE
France before the tour, meanwhile other countries don't accept dope
control, it's like financial paradise aurond here.
come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who
have aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that
in the past everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the
american girls in athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 .
they are all dope. it'es easy to see that.

it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of
20, it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious

Is July the best goddamn month around here or what?

--
Bill Asher

bidon jaune said:

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the french bias is that the french team aren't allow to train OUTSIDE France
before the tour, meanwhile other countries don't accept dope control, it's
like financial paradise aurond here.
come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the past
everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american girls in
athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all dope. it'es
easy to see that.

it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious

Dude what the f are you talking about?

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From the official Tour de France web site:

"Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
battle subsequently ensued."

What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

Quoted message said:

From their profile of Hinault:

"Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

Absolutely. Hinault admitted that there had been some misunderstanding about
his way of riding, but that was only because not everyone had understood
that he wanted to give his team-mate a much more valuable gift than a simple
Tour victory. By his seeming resistance he wanted to impart >character= to
LeMond: "Thanks to me Greg has become a very good rider. Later on he=ll
draw a lot of benefit from the psychological war I=ve waged against him.
From now on he=ll be capable of winning the toughest races. I=ve taught him
a lot. In future he=ll be able to defend himself on every terrain and that,
too, he owes in part to me. I don=t regret what I=ve done, because it was
all for his own good".

Benjo

Bernie could've saved himself a lot of work and just renamed Lemond "Sue."

Ron

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From the official Tour de France web site:

"Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
battle subsequently ensued."

What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

Quoted message said:

From their profile of Hinault:

"Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
don't seem to have
a problem with that though.

-ilan

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From the official Tour de France web site:

"Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
battle subsequently ensued."

What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

Quoted message said:

From their profile of Hinault:

"Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

In French, "supporter" literally means "to put up with." Since the
French regularly mistranslate faux cousins,
e.g., they now use "supporter" as in English (in correct French
"soutenir"😉, maybe it's a clever counter.
ASO clever, that would be different.

-ilan

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From the official Tour de France web site:

"Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
battle subsequently ensued."

What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

Quoted message said:

From their profile of Hinault:

"Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
don't seem to have
a problem with that though.

-ilan

Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
enhancing

However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
performance enhancers

It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
but not on the UCI's

Ergo, Perico was Clean as Lance Armstrong

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Americans are growing weary of seeing their sons die in wars to bring
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while illegal aliens march in their cities under foreign flags to
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billionaires as their wages fail to rise to compensate for soaring gas
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the french bias is that the french team aren't allow to train OUTSIDE
France before the tour, meanwhile other countries don't accept dope
control, it's like financial paradise aurond here.
come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the
past everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american
girls in athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all
dope. it'es easy to see that.

it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious

In the style of "bidon jaune"

Wow, you really are a character "bidon jaune".

I was bald without hair at 16, and hadn't even started the dope yet. And I
am just past 53 now and don't look Rassmussenesque, but people say I don't
look more than 45.

The teeth bit is just a cultural difference. Having lived in Europe, I know
that snaggle teeth are a sign of independence.

Braces in France are for women who need to hold their underwear up.

I love Paris. I once saw a thong on the pavement, but didn't pick it up.

Donald Munro said:

sodaant said:

What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

Lafferty only knows.

And even if he didn't know he could alway invent it like he always
does.

bidon jaune said:

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come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the past
everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american girls in
athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all dope. it'es
easy to see that.

it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious

Sorry to inform someone so well informed to begin with but most men
who are going to lose their hair start losing it at 20 years old. By
24 I was bald and I don't like to take aspirin.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From the official Tour de France web site:

Quoted message said:

"Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
battle subsequently ensued."

Quoted message said:

What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From their profile of Hinault:

Quoted message said:

"Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

Quoted message said:

Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
don't seem to have
a problem with that though.

Anquetil admitted that he used dope and I don't see them removing his
yellow jerseys despite the additional fact that he got his step
daughter pregnant.

In article <[email hidden]>,

benjo maso said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From the official Tour de France web site:

"Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
battle subsequently ensued."

What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

Quoted message said:

From their profile of Hinault:

"Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

Absolutely. Hinault admitted that there had been some misunderstanding about
his way of riding, but that was only because not everyone had understood
that he wanted to give his team-mate a much more valuable gift than a simple
Tour victory. By his seeming resistance he wanted to impart >character= to
LeMond: "Thanks to me Greg has become a very good rider. Later on he=ll
draw a lot of benefit from the psychological war I=ve waged against him.
From now on he=ll be capable of winning the toughest races. I=ve taught him
a lot. In future he=ll be able to defend himself on every terrain and that,
too, he owes in part to me. I don=t regret what I=ve done, because it was
all for his own good".

I believe him.

--
Michael Press

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Anquetil admitted that he used dope and I don't see them removing his
yellow jerseys

Why should they? When he won his Tours doping was still allowed. .

despite the additional fact that he got his step

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daughter pregnant.

.... which is still allowed (by the UCI anyway).

Benjo

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bidon jaune said:

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come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the
past
everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american girls
in
athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all dope.
it'es
easy to see that.

it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious

Sorry to inform someone so well informed to begin with but most men
who are going to lose their hair start losing it at 20 years old. By
24 I was bald and I don't like to take aspirin.

Besides, Rasmussen isn't bald at all. He's just shaving his head, which -
AFAIK - isn't a considered as a sign of using doping (yet).

Benjo

On Jul 21, 1:16 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

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>From the official Tour de France web site:

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Quoted message said:

"Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
battle subsequently ensued."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

Quoted message said:

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>From their profile of Hinault:

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Quoted message said:

"Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

Quoted message said:

Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
don't seem to have
a problem with that though.

Quoted message said:

-ilan

Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
enhancing

However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
performance enhancers

It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
but not on the UCI's

Delgado tested positive for a legal substance which gave evidence that
he was doping. This means he
got to keep his Tour de France title despite overwhelming evidence of
doping. He cannot be considered
a clean winner, despite having the right to keep his title, having
been kept the rules of the event.

-ilan

-ilan