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  1. Freewheeling May Be Running
    Stealth Campaign to Attract New Members

    Freewheeling's Sam Walker was accused yesterday of running what
    amounts to an uberstealth campaign to attract members from Future
    behemoth Cycling Plus, which has been operating a successful forum for
    several years. Sources tell us that Walker recently registered on his
    competitor's forum as 'rice dream', an impossibly obscure reference
    which experts say will fly right past the overwhelming majority of
    everyone who casts an eye over the 'active users' box.

    Walker, a former contributor to C+, appeared nonplussed when asked to
    comment on the allegations: "That wasn't me," he insisted. "I haven't
    visited their boards for months. In any case, it's impossible to trace
    a yahoo.com email account."

    Some C+ regulars are suspicious. One opined "That's just the sort of
    thing 'Sam' - if that's what he's calling himself these days - would
    do." The source referred to Walker's perplexing name change last year,
    oddly enough the subject of a May 2003 'Deeply Unfashionable' column
    entitled 'What's in a Name'. In it the writer used poet Marriane
    Moore, NYPD Blue, the Edsel automobile, and even oral sex as
    ammunition in a losing bid to explain the rationale for the ID swap.
    Tens of thousands of readers cancelled their subscriptions in protest.

    Carlton Reid, publisher of the eerily omniscient industry trade
    journal Bicycle Business, has suggested: "It's safe to assume that
    particular column was the reason for the abrupt decline in C+
    circulation figures. No wonder they sacked him."

    "I suppose one can just barely see what he's attempting to do here,"
    said another C+ forum member. "In an idle moment I often cast a glance
    down to that section to see who else is around. 'Rice Dream' is not a
    particularly unusual handle compared to others I've seen, but it did
    set bells to ringing, and that night it hit me like a tonne of bricks
    in the middle of what had been a particularly satisfying session of
    lovemaking. You have to dig into the archives to know what it's all
    about, but back when he was scaring up hosts for his 'Hospitality
    Tour' story which eventually ran in the magazine, it became well known
    among those who cared that the guy was addicted to the white stuff.
    After that moment of stunning realization, I continued with my efforts
    and reached a not unsatisfying climax."

    Cycling Plus editor Tony Farrelly could not be reached for comment,
    but an anonymous staffer suggested that Walker's antics, if proven,
    were nothing to be alarmed about. "We've got over 10,000 members; he's
    still struggling to make it past the critical three dozen bar. Talk to
    us in a few years and maybe we'll show a modicum of concern."

    ---
    http://www.freewheelingforum.com/index.php
    ---

    What's In a Name?
    http://www.bikereader.com/solo/name.html

  2. Sam said:

    Freewheeling May Be Running


    [...]

    Yes. I now know about the forum. If I want to use it I will. Can you shut
    up about it now.

    Colin

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Sam) said:

    Freewheeling May Be Running
    Spam Campaign to [censored] cyclists

    That's what, three or four blatent self-promotions here in a couple of days.

    Never, ever do business with a spammer. That includes visiting their
    wretched websites.

    --
    Nick Kew

  4. Sam said:

    Freewheeling May Be Running
    Stealth Campaign to Attract New Members

    Whether it is or not, I'm not going there. I look in on the CTC ones
    and Cycling Scotland's because they're nationally useful and relevant
    organisations, but they're a PITA to use and just demonstrate how
    horribly inferior web forums to Usenet.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  5. Sam said:

    Freewheeling's Sam Walker was accused yesterday of running what
    amounts to an uberstealth campaign

    Your spam on uk.rec.cycling is hardly stealthy.

    Be a good chap and [censored], will you?

    James
    --
    If I have seen further than others, it is
    by treading on the toes of giants.
    http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/

  6. in message <[email hidden]>, Sam

    (') said:

    Freewheeling May Be Running
    Stealth Campaign to Attract New Members

    Sam, this is getting very close to SPAM. Cut it down. I know you're
    promoting your new site but this volume is well beyond the boundaries
    of what's generally thought acceptable. If you wish to promote your
    site, it is generally accepted that it is OK to include its URL in a
    signature to on-topic posts. Posts whose main purpose is to advertise
    your website are by definition not on topic.

    If you persist, I shall report you for net abuse, not only to your
    Usenet provider, but also to your web hosting provider. Be reasonable.
    Cut it down.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; Perl ... is the Brittney Spears of programming - easily accessible
    ;; but, in the final analysis, empty of any significant thought
    ;; Frank Adrian on Slashdot, 21st July 2003

  7. "Sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Freewheeling May Be Running
    Stealth Campaign to Attract New Members

    It's OK Scotty my boy, I'm still your friend ;-)
    --
    Simon M.

  8. Sam posted:

    Quoted message said:

    Free

    [censored] off, spammer.

    --
    Paul ...

    (8(|) ... Homer Rocks

  9. [email hidden] (Nick Kew) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Sam) said:

    Freewheeling May Be Running
    Spam Campaign to [censored] cyclists

    That's what, three or four blatent self-promotions here in a couple of days.

    Never, ever do business with a spammer. That includes visiting their
    wretched websites.

    I rather knew this was going to happen sooner or later, but was hoping
    A) the aggrieved parties would do themselves the favour of killfilling
    me instead of advertising their lack of taste, or B) simply ignore me.
    It's not difficult.

    I do apologize if this seems like nothing more than spam. I was hoping
    I would be cut a little slack for a week or so until I got this out of
    my system. It's extremely difficult starting a forum, and I have no
    budget.

    Anyway, I'm really not going to argue about it anymore. Like I said,
    killfile me, if you haven't already. I'm begging you.

    And I'll even let you have the last word. I hope it's a creative one,
    but that's something I sincerely doubt.

    Sam
    --
    http://www.bikereader.com
    http://www.freewheelingforum.com
    http://www.prettygoodbritain.com

  10. "Colin Blackburn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Sam said:

    Freewheeling May Be Running


    [...]

    Yes. I now know about the forum. If I want to use it I will. Can you shut
    up about it now.

    Colin

    If people can survive 10,000,000,000,000 threads about helmets,
    they'll survive a week of my blatant PR. Any other questions, refer to
    my answer to Nick Kew.

    Sam
    ---
    http://www.bikereader.com
    http://www.freewheelingforum.com
    http://www.prettygoodbritain.com

  11. Peter Clinch <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Sam said:

    Freewheeling May Be Running
    Stealth Campaign to Attract New Members

    Whether it is or not, I'm not going there. I look in on the CTC ones
    and Cycling Scotland's because they're nationally useful and relevant
    organisations, but they're a PITA to use and just demonstrate how
    horribly inferior web forums to Usenet.

    Pete.

    You're not alone in your aversion to such forums. Sheldon Brown, who
    did me the great honour of registering the other day (I'm not
    devulging any state secrets; anybody who registers can see the list of
    members) told me he also much prefers Usenet. Fortunately for me, he
    promised to stop in from time to time... I only wish I could hold him
    to that!

    Sam
    ---
    http://www.freewheeling.com/index.php

  12. in message <[email hidden]>, Sam

    (') said:

    [email hidden] (Nick Kew) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Sam) said:

    Freewheeling May Be Running
    Spam Campaign to [censored] cyclists

    That's what, three or four blatent self-promotions here in a couple
    of days.

    Never, ever do business with a spammer. That includes visiting their
    wretched websites.

    I rather knew this was going to happen sooner or later, but was hoping
    A) the aggrieved parties would do themselves the favour of killfilling
    me instead of advertising their lack of taste, or B) simply ignore me.
    It's not difficult.

    I do apologize if this seems like nothing more than spam. I was hoping
    I would be cut a little slack for a week or so until I got this out of
    my system. It's extremely difficult starting a forum, and I have no
    budget.

    You were cut slack - and not a little bit, either. You were cut a lot of
    slack. And please be aware that in seeking to privatise part of the
    community for your own profit, you are actively damaging the public
    forum which is very valuable to us. You can't expect us to continue to
    cut you slack.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, I'm really not going to argue about it anymore. Like I said,
    killfile me, if you haven't already. I'm begging you.

    Laddie, I'm not going to killfile you. I'm going to watch you. And if
    you continue to step out of line I shall be complaining to Jeff Lewis,
    of 421 King Street North, Waterloo, Ontario, who hosts your DNS; and to
    Pegasus Web Technologies of P.O. Box 577, Franklin Lakes, NJ 07417, who
    host your website; and to Voxel Dot Net, Inc. of 270 River St., Suite
    #302, Troy, NY 12180 who are their upstream provider. It won't be the
    first time I've had a spammer's website shut down, by any means.

    Behave, and your posts will continue to be welcome here; continue to
    spam, and you're out of business. Yes, that *is* a threat.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    ;; Sending your money to someone just because they've erected
    ;; a barrier of obscurity and secrets around the tools you
    ;; need to use your data does not help the economy or spur
    ;; innovation. - Waffle Iron Slashdot, June 16th, 2002

  13. Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Sam

    (') said:

    Freewheeling May Be Running
    Stealth Campaign to Attract New Members

    Sam, this is getting very close to SPAM. Cut it down. I know you're
    promoting your new site but this volume is well beyond the boundaries
    of what's generally thought acceptable. If you wish to promote your
    site, it is generally accepted that it is OK to include its URL in a
    signature to on-topic posts. Posts whose main purpose is to advertise
    your website are by definition not on topic.

    If you persist, I shall report you for net abuse, not only to your
    Usenet provider, but also to your web hosting provider. Be reasonable.
    Cut it down.

    Relax. I'm almost finished with the run anyway. I don't have a Usenet
    provider (unless you count Google groups), but if you persist I shall
    report myself to my web hosting provider and wait for the laughter to
    stop: This isn't even close to spam.

    Sam
    --
    http://www.freewheelingforum.com

  14. "Paul - [censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Sam posted:

    Quoted message said:

    Free

    [censored] off, spammer.

    Any PR is good PR, Homer.

  15. Sam said:

    This isn't even close to spam.

    Unsolicited emailing to numerous recipients advertising a service. The
    only sense it isn't spam is it isn't pink and available in tins. You
    shut up and we'll relax, now safe in the knowledge that we really don't
    want to visit your website.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  16. Sam said:

    Sam

    Watch it Sam. You've got the URC hardnuts on your tail.

  17. Simon Brooke said:


    You were cut slack - and not a little bit, either. You


    were cut a lot

    Quoted message said:

    of slack. And please be aware that in seeking to privatise


    part of the

    Quoted message said:

    community for your own profit, you are actively damaging


    the public

    Quoted message said:

    forum which is very valuable to us. You can't expect us to


    continue to

    Quoted message said:

    cut you slack.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, I'm really not going to argue about it anymore.


    Like I said,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    killfile me, if you haven't already. I'm begging you.

    Laddie, I'm not going to killfile you. I'm going to watch


    you. And if

    Quoted message said:

    you continue to step out of line I shall be complaining to


    Jeff Lewis,

    Quoted message said:

    of 421 King Street North, Waterloo, Ontario, who hosts


    your DNS; and

    Quoted message said:

    to Pegasus Web Technologies of P.O. Box 577, Franklin


    Lakes, NJ

    Quoted message said:

    07417, who host your website; and to Voxel Dot Net, Inc.


    of 270 River

    Quoted message said:

    St., Suite #302, Troy, NY 12180 who are their upstream


    provider. It

    Quoted message said:

    won't be the first time I've had a spammer's website shut


    down, by

    Quoted message said:

    any means.

    Behave, and your posts will continue to be welcome here;


    continue to

    Quoted message said:

    spam, and you're out of business. Yes, that *is* a threat.

    Switch to decaf.

    --
    Mike Kruger
    A new Florida poll shows President Bush winning the state by
    twenty
    thousand lawyers. - Andy Borowitz

  18. "Simonb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Sam said:

    Sam

    Watch it Sam. You've got the URC hardnuts on your tail.

    I think he's been given a pretty soft ride up to now. I'm happy with
    that because I enjoy his writing and respect him for his energy and
    his considerable talent. He must be aware, however, that he's sailing
    pretty close to the wind with this campaign. Once it starts to
    irritate it's target market it will in any case be self defeating.

    --
    Dave...

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