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  1. Has anyone else experienced freehub failure? Mine failed at the furthest point on my circuit whilst
    climbing a very steep hill. Seems to me that failure of this component is the most unfixable thing
    that can occur on a ride, no warning, just spinning cranks. To add insult the hub is Coda (nasty
    stuff) and the axle is sealed so cannot replace freehub unless anyone out there knows different.
    looks like complete new hub or wheel

  2. Malk said:

    Has anyone else experienced freehub failure?

    I do - had to ride 15 miles of single track with constant pedaling often with the brakes pulled.
    Interesting experience - not fast riding like that but technical challengeing in unfamiliar ways:-)

    The freewheel was a Shimano LX if I remember correctly, no problem replacing the parts. As for your
    Coda one it sounds odd it can't be fixed but as you say Coda is not exactly the best stuff so you
    may be right - I'd mail Cannondale and ask or go to my LBS.

    Regards

    Bruno

  3. Malk said:

    Has anyone else experienced freehub failure? Mine failed at the furthest point on my circuit
    whilst climbing a very steep hill. Seems to me that failure of this component is the most
    unfixable thing that can occur on a ride, no warning, just spinning cranks.

    Asuming you mean no drive..... Although it doesn't fit in with it failing on the climb, there's a
    chance the freewheel mecanism could just be gummed up so the pawls aren't enagaging. If can't
    disassemble, try flushing out with loads of WD40. Would be best to remove freehub to avoid spoiling
    main bearings, but it'll still be worth a try anyway as a last resort before binning the whole
    hub/wheel.

    Failure of the other type happened on my brother's MTB (with a cheap unbranded hub) after he fitted
    bar ends. Ended up with drive only - no freewheeling. There was some advance warning in the few
    rides before the final knackeration - strange noises and momentary malfunction. I reckon that's what
    would happen with most freehubs.

    This problem is caused by repeatedly putting a lot of power into an inadequate design. The freehubs
    use too-small ratchet diameters and pawls. Hope hubs are better (than Shimanos & cheap ones)
    apparently, and Campags are for road bikes.

    ~PB

  4. Quoted message said:

    To add insult the hub is Coda (nasty stuff) and the
    axle is sealed so cannot replace freehub unless
    anyone out there knows different looks like complete
    new hub or wheel

    My nephew replaced the Coda freehub body on his Cannondale mountain bike with one purchased from our local Cannondale dealer. Removal of the old body required a 12mm allen key inserted from the left side of the hub.

    Coda hubs are made for Cannondale by a variety of manufacturers, and some are of very good quality, but Shimano has the benefit of universal availability.

    N. Lenderby (Mrs)

  5. Nora Lenderby wrote

    Quoted message said:


    My nephew replaced the Coda freehub body on his Cannondale mountain bike with one purchased from
    our local Cannondale dealer. Removal of the old body required a 12mm allen key inserted from the
    left side of the hub.

    Coda hubs are made for Cannondale by a variety of manufacturers, and some are of very good
    quality, but Shimano has the benefit of universal availability.

    N. Lenderby (Mrs)


    The hub is a Cannondale Competition on a road bike, there appears to be no way to remove the axle to
    get at the 10 or? 12mm hollow bolt that fixes the freehub body to the main hub. There is in fact
    some wear on the splines of the freehub where the smaller cassette rings are fixed to the hub. The
    freehub outer body is an alloy of what appears to be softer metal than the standard eg Ultegra
    Shimano freehub which is steel. I think I will be glad to see the back of this Coda part (excellent
    frames lousy parts) Malk

  6. Quoted message said:

    The hub is a Cannondale Competition on a road bike,
    there appears to be no way to remove the axle to get
    at the 10 or? 12mm hollow bolt that fixes the freehub
    body to the main hub.

    I'm sure there is a way. You just haven't found it yet. Cartridge bearing hubs often have a press-fit axle that should be tapped out to one side or the other after a retaining nut or circlip is removed. You might consult the dealer who sold you the cycle, who is more likely to know the specifics of your particular model of hub.

    Quoted message said:

    There is in fact some wear on the splines of the
    freehub where the smaller cassette rings are fixed
    to the hub. The freehub outer body is an alloy of
    what appears to be softer metal than the standard
    eg Ultegra Shimano freehub which is steel.

    Many hubs use aluminium freehub bodies as they are lighter than steel ones.

    Quoted message said:

    I think I will be glad to see the back of this Coda
    part (excellent frames lousy parts)

    I will repeat: Coda parts are made by a variety of manufacturers and vary in quality. Many have been excellent, the cold forged Sugino cranks, and the hollow Magic Motorcycle chainset, for example. Others have been less praiseworthy, but it would be unfair to condemn an entire varied range on the basis of a single failure.

    N. Lenderby (Mrs)

  7. Malk said:

    The hub is a Cannondale Competition on a road bike, there appears to be no way to remove the axle
    to get at the 10 or? 12mm hollow bolt that fixes the freehub body to the main hub.

    Are you sure that is the only way to remove the freehub? Some freehubs are held on with a nut and
    can be slid over the axle - with no need to remove axle. Only Shimano-type freehubs have the wheel
    bearings at the outside of the freehub. (Design patented by Shimano).

    ~PB

  8. Nora Lenderby said:
    Quoted message said:

    There is in fact some wear on the splines of the freehub where the smaller cassette rings are
    fixed to the hub. The freehub outer body is an alloy of what appears to be softer metal than the
    standard eg Ultegra Shimano freehub which is steel.

    Many hubs use aluminium freehub bodies as they are lighter than steel ones.

    But it can be a problem when the splines are shallow - especially when a non-spidered cassette is
    used (so load is not distributed so evenly).

    Campagnolo 9/10sp freehub bodies are aluminium but the splines are deep.

    ~PB

  9. [email hidden] schreef ...

    Quoted message said:

    The hub is a Cannondale Competition on a road bike, there appears to be no way to remove the axle
    to get at the 10 or? 12mm hollow bolt that fixes the freehub body to the main hub. There is in
    fact some wear on the splines of the freehub where the smaller cassette rings are fixed to the
    hub. The freehub outer body is an alloy of what appears to be softer metal than the standard eg
    Ultegra Shimano freehub which is steel.

    Ummmm.... we have wear on a steel Chris King outer body which, according to CK is normal - at least
    on a tandem ;-)

    --
    Regards, Marten

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